[Maxi0wnz]

Hi, i'm a high silver Zerg wanting to know the following things
1. An effective build order vs Turtle to death ball Protoss (stalker/collusus)
2. the unit composition to fight this deathball
3. Ways to be aggressive so the protoss may not turtle/get maxed out
4. I'v heard from a few streams the way to counter protoss deathball/passive style is be greedy as you can possibly be, is this true? and if so what would be a greedy zvp build order
Thanks in advance
Maxi0wnz

[mGGAequitas]

http://www.twitch.tv/x5_pig

[Maxi0wnz]

Yes, i do watch him stream from time to time, it is most helpful. I wish i had the money to buy an hour/2 of his coaching

[ToRDjvillian]

1. Roach/nydus
2. Roach/nydus
3. Roach/nydus
4. Roach/nydus

Quick Comments

mGGNemesis:

standard dj

[SLCN.Wally]

1-4. Mutas

[Delinquio]

Mutas are an amazing unit. Watch some Stephano or Vortix

[PuMiCe]

Mutas annoy workers and other stuff.. I usually get mad when im being harassed.. :P

[VectorFX]

I play protoss and zerg players that get too many bases is what beats me.

[Infected]

Well if the protoss opens FFE here are some steps i recommend you follow

1) Do you have a proper build order from early to mid game that puts you in a good position mid-late game?
If no, here's one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_qojdNLCQw
http://lowkotv.com/heart-of-the-swar...s-build-order/
( You should have one build per match up for your level)

2) Since your high silver, look at your own games. I can guarantee your making crucial mistakes past 4 minutes (links above should explain what i mean) Fix these. Don't allow the protoss to get a death ball if YOU can stop it. (Fix your own mistakes first)

3) Execute the build i provided properly. It will take time though. Repeat step 2 until you can do it in your sleep

4) Good Luck and Have Fun!

[Maxi0wnz]

Thanks for everyone's help, will watch those videos and take all advice given and hopefully implement it into my play

[TtSYF.tRoy]

recommend going muta because they harass and can heal themselves. As a low level Protoss player my self thats the most irritating thing in PvZ
Then if they still manage to take it to later game then either
1. Roach/ Hydra / Viper
2. Swarmhosts / Hydra