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Unread Wed, 6th-Jul-2011, 2:30 AM BnetId: DemisodaSPR.968  Race: Location: Sydney  Total Posts Made: 18 # 1
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High level ZvX questions. Ty.

I've noticed there's top 20 zergs active on this forum so perfect opportunity to ask some miscellaneous questions that I haven't been able to solve:

ZvZ:

- Does 14g13p no speed baneling build order win against 15h14p17g16OL 16 ling 17 ling (fastest lings off hatch first that's not 1413)? Please elaborate. 151417 or 151517 with 17/19 roach warren cannot hold against this, which is the standard idra/ret FE hold against the information that the hatchery isn't there (and the information that it isn't a 6-10 pool they're facing)
- Is there a non-volatile speedling opening off 1514 or 1515 that is safe against 1414 speed keep_on_gas banelings. What are the timings of queens, bane nest and or spines for this build? The only non-volatile openings I am currently aware of off hatch first that is safe to the entire range of 1414 speed is hatchpoolgas 17 roach warren 1 queen 19ling 20ling 21ling 22ling (or drone) 22 overlord (idra/ret standard) or hatchpool no-gas, 2 queen ling spine (dimaga/moon standard).

ZvP:

- Please drop all your knowledge about droning and gassing w.r.t. the P's choice of chrono allocation to forge and cyber. If you are uncertain about the tell or timing you're claiming please mention this in your post. If you could, discuss what chrono allocation to each building in isolation or in conjunction means for the protoss range in this situation. Perhaps it is best if you combine this discussion with different protoss gas timings and how this influences their range in combination with chrono allocation.
- How do we interpret protoss gas timings when scouting inside the base of a protoss forge FE? I do not know how to handle this information. I feel that one could type for over half an hour on the implications of different gas timings in conjunction with units out of gate, chrono allocation, map, whether protoss scouts your 3rd, etc.
So what I'm looking on is the implications of chrono allocation and gas timing for the Protoss build distribution. I'm quite lost on scouting forge FE and I feel this is where I need to focus.

Thanks.

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