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Old Tue, 22nd-Jul-2014, 10:39 PM Who's Who:   Race: Location: Sydney, Australia  Total Posts Made: 1,592 # 10
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at first glance it makes sense to seed ACL events based on ACL points and it's clearly unbiased. That said (and as my previous post made clear), it's not fair.
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it's not fair.
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In an ideal world I would have a single double elimination bracket. However the reality of the situation is we don't have sufficient computers to effectively manage that process. The whole reason we split brackets into two is so that I can sit down an entire bracket and allocate them a computer. That and double elim brackets get exponentially larger the more people in them so in theory having two smaller brackets reduces the total series required to be played. One of the largest waste of time at LANs is people setting up. People have to plug in their peripherals, sometimes download drivers and set the settings they want. So I try to avoid computer swapping where possible and that means delaying the other bracket until computers become available. Also please nobody counter-argue ACL should just buy more computers. It's not financially feasible for us to do this and in many places the space available wouldn't allow for more computers.

In regards to how seeding was done I seriously don't understand how anybody can argue seeding an ACL event using ACL points is not fair or not unbiased. In my opinion no admin should ever alter a bracket 'because it looks stacked' or 'because some really good guy gets a bad run', especially if the premise of seeding is based off previous qualifiers. What's the point of doing the qualifiers then? "Oh see this semi decent guy played in all the qualifiers and he's in the easier bracket but this guy here who is like top 2 protoss SEA is in the harder bracket hmm despite only playing in 1 qualifier let's swap them because it wont be as stacked then and it will make it more likely for this guy to advance because he really should." Makes me sick thinking about it. I definitely can see the merit in using 2013's model of seasons instead of yearly but that's all I can take from this entire discussion on it. There will always be people who get an easier bracket than others - welcome to a tournament.

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Definitely agree about admins altering brackets. Big can of worms once you start doing it
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