Im basiclly just re-writing this thread. keep it updated.
Anyway! as obviously put in title;
Free coaching for Bronze/Silver players, i CAN help with gold, not too much of an extent.
Basiclly. it's a mutliple hour session, where concentration is put into a single match up, or if time, MAYBE two match ups. (all time driven).
Details will variy so i won't discuss untill in a lession with a specific person.
For intrest in a session or two, or more. just contact me via PM or if not possible post on my account page. Also if you contact me, would help if put NA and SEA In game name and character code with skype name, to make it easier to contact about lessions on the run
I would find it EXTRMELY helpful if you can contact me about it, as i don't always check the thread. and also skype with a mic to make lessson so much easier and much smoother.
If i remember anything to add to this, i'll just it randomly !
Also, ANYONE who i have spoken with lessions for previously, and lessions/sessions never happened, i apologize, no excuses for it, sorry again ^^
GG guys ^^
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Twitter = @my3dSynizta
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How come your playing in the BSGCL if your Protoss is 'Mid Diamond?'
Because he thinks is Protoss play is that good but he hasn't laddered enough to prove it. Because he is actually in gold on sea he is allowed to play in bsg's
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Because he thinks is Protoss play is that good but he hasn't laddered enough to prove it. Because he is actually in gold on sea he is allowed to play in bsg's
"Thinks"??? Im consistantly beating players on NA of around that rank. Thats a diffrence between thinking im around a particular rank and actaully knowing.
Oh and to Minimat; i will be laddering my SEA account tonight. so i'll probably be promoted to atleast platinum, so that will reflect my skill a bit more then it does currently.
Im not here to disucss my supposed skill level, im here to offer my game knowledge and coaching to low league players, regardless of my skill, i feel that i can teach bronze & Silver, and too some extent some gold, something about protoss play, that can help them improve
My previous post did come off negative. Regardless I reccomend for silver and bronze players to take up this offer.
when syn and I have done 2v2's in the past at a diamond level he has carried me through games.
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Personally i think there's nothing much you can teach Bronze and Silver players except build orders and standard gameplay. Bronze and Silver players are stuck in those leagues because their mechanics (macro micro scouting reaction) are not very good. These things actually cant be coach and are not necessary to be coached. Although its a good initiative, i hope you will coach the corrects build order ( non-4 gate lolz).
Personally i think there's nothing much you can teach Bronze and Silver players except build orders and standard gameplay. Bronze and Silver players are stuck in those leagues because their mechanics (macro micro scouting reaction) are not very good. These things actually cant be coach and are not necessary to be coached. Although its a good initiative, i hope you will coach the corrects build order ( non-4 gate lolz).
Sure theres build orders to be taught.
But theres also basic game concepts like unit counters, combinations, timings, strengths & weaknesses and the ability to look with a more experienced eye and say "this here is your weakest link and this should be your focus."
+1 to Syn for offering his time for the betterment of others, I wasn't nit-picking earlier was just saying beware what you say hehe.
To that end also, macro / micro and scouting ARE things that can be coached, coz to be honest lower league players don't see the issue as a higher league player would. How often when you were bronze did you queue units and go "ive been spending well!"?
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Sure theres build orders to be taught.
But theres also basic game concepts like unit counters, combinations, timings, strengths & weaknesses and the ability to look with a more experienced eye and say "this here is your weakest link and this should be your focus."
+1 to Syn for offering his time for the betterment of others, I wasn't nit-picking earlier was just saying beware what you say hehe.
To that end also, macro / micro and scouting ARE things that can be coached, coz to be honest lower league players don't see the issue as a higher league player would. How often when you were bronze did you queue units and go "ive been spending well!"?
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^^^ this pretty much. all good. ^.^
The main thing im plannning to coach is the macro, what to look for with the scouting infomation you have. good, safe, builds that are easy to learn, and what to do if someone counters those openers, etc, etc, etc.
These kind of threads have come up numerous times on this site, and many times have been shot down for the same reasons - are you sure you're good enough to coach? (There are countless arguments that have been put forward already)
I'm not on either side of this argument (I choose to stay out of it), just be prepared for this sort of assault, don't be discouraged, and keep your passion for helping others, because that is probably what led you to create this in the first place GL with this!
These kind of threads have come up numerous times on this site, and many times have been shot down for the same reasons - are you sure you're good enough to coach? (There are countless arguments that have been put forward already)
I'm not on either side of this argument (I choose to stay out of it), just be prepared for this sort of assault, don't be discouraged, and keep your passion for helping others, because that is probably what led you to create this in the first place GL with this!
Thank you sir. ^.^ I feel i am good enough to do Bronze/Silver level coaching, as i have been doing some privately previously and have gotten possitive feedback from those particular people. ^.^
I would be interested in attempting to set up a time to try out this coaching offer. I personally struggle with the things ProAnnn mentioned like reacting to what I scout and managing macro past gates. I've been watching Day[9] and have been getting some builds from the MLG Replay packs that just came out. Please feel free to shoot me a message on bnet when you see me and we can see if we can schedule something out. Thank you.
I would be interested in attempting to set up a time to try out this coaching offer. I personally struggle with the things ProAnnn mentioned like reacting to what I scout and managing macro past gates. I've been watching Day[9] and have been getting some builds from the MLG Replay packs that just came out. Please feel free to shoot me a message on bnet when you see me and we can see if we can schedule something out. Thank you.
No problems. ^.^ just need you to PM me yourself battlenet id & char code as well as skype name. that way coaching goes by alot easier for both.
Well I'm new in here (and relatively new in SC2 having only played 140+ games on it) and I'm not one to pass on any sort of coaching, so hit me up at EvilSWAT.711. Thanks to the forums rules here I'm not able to PM you anything yet so leave me a message? Peace!
So a guy offers free help to those who need it. People are shooting him down because he might not be good enough to use his free time to help others ...
Coaching and playing a two different things. A good player has good knowledge but Coaching is about turning that knowledge into information another can turn back into knowledge. A starcraft coach is not like a football coach. They arnt changing game plans mid game. A starcraft coach is a different set of eyes and ideas to help you find what you are good at and where you are weak.
I have no idea how good he actually is but the fact he is offering free help to those lower than him should not be bashed on an unknown skill level of coaching.
Personally i think there's nothing much you can teach Bronze and Silver players except build orders and standard gameplay. Bronze and Silver players are stuck in those leagues because their mechanics (macro micro scouting reaction) are not very good.
I disagree with you here man. I rekon being given a build order is one thing, but actually being taught why the food timing on a building (i.e. 15 nexus) is important / changes gameplay makes a huge difference for these newer players. You dont get that by just reading a build order list on TL.
Also, I rekon I will be stuck in masters until my micro/macro, and even to some degree scouting reaction improves. Imagine the bounds of improvement bronze/silver players would make if they even contemplated reacting to what they see (Im just guessing they dont..). Also, little tips in relation to micro and macro helped me right up until diamond - i.e. injecting all hatches at the same time, so that when you see one pop, you know they all need to be re-injected.
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I have no idea how good he actually is but the fact he is offering free help to those lower than him should not be bashed on an unknown skill level of coaching.
Exactly. I mean seriously, these guys are so fresh to the game that ANY help is good help. I wish I had it when I started.
(Notably however, I think the guys asking about his skill level actually had the context of why OP was playing in BSG when he said he was Diamond. Was just an off-topic question i think, nothing to do with coaching)
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I wouldn't mind a little help I'm bronze on NA but silver on SEA I don't really play on SEA though because for some weird reason i have a better ping to NA.....
Lol, im guessing youre in Australia and with Optus? I think one of the TA guys said their server runs through the US or some shit, so latency is better there.
Or i remember incorrectly and am just talking shit :P
Hi I for one would like free coaching. Mainly because it's free. So sign me up. I'm a high silver player who believes i'm just a step off of gold. My build orders seem fine. I do believe i need work in technique (micro) and late game reactions. My name/code is Tonki.408.
Hi I for one would like free coaching. Mainly because it's free. So sign me up. I'm a high silver player who believes i'm just a step off of gold. My build orders seem fine. I do believe i need work in technique (micro) and late game reactions. My name/code is Tonki.408.
Hope you still have some spots.
got spots, of course ^.^ 3 or 4 spots of probably 6. ^.^ i will add you when im onn ext and contact ya when i see you on.
Lol, im guessing youre in Australia and with Optus? I think one of the TA guys said their server runs through the US or some shit, so latency is better there.
Or i remember incorrectly and am just talking shit :P
No I'm with internode and they have a dedicated link to the US so pinging the us is faster then pinging singapore .......
No I'm with internode and they have a dedicated link to the US so pinging the us is faster then pinging singapore .......
Thats odd because internode actually goes via Hongkong last I checked to get the US. I remember distintly when the hongkong servers went down a day with no internet into the US well was really only 2 hours but man it was not nice. Having said that that was a year or more ago and internode is always upgrading their network. Mind you sometimes my ping is down around 230 for US servers and other times its up to 500+ I guess its all traffic based.
I wouldn't mind a little help I'm bronze on NA but silver on SEA I don't really play on SEA though because for some weird reason i have a better ping to NA.....
I wouldn't mind a little help I'm bronze on NA but silver on SEA I don't really play on SEA though because for some weird reason i have a better ping to NA.....
I can coach on NA if that suits you bettter. If you can, just PM me your char name & char code for NA, and aswell as your skype.
I would like to learn some Protoss my skype name is Posipi4, contact me
I have holidays atm so I have TONS of free time and I want to train for Bronze/Silver Tournament.
I tried coaching a bronze player in NA without skype. Oh god..... It was tough. LOL!!!! Hard to coach when they do not know the a+move command and right clicks marines into banelings.... :'(
I tried coaching a bronze player in NA without skype. Oh god..... It was tough. LOL!!!! Hard to coach when they do not know the a+move command and right clicks marines into banelings.... :'(
I have skype I just didn't want to post the details for all the internet to see is all never know what spam bot is looking for details.
yay yay yay. Am I too late to ask for coaching?
YaSu.288
I don't play very regularly if that's alright with you.
Nope, your not. that's fine. =P i'll keep an eye out for you when i am on ^.^
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I think it's great that you are actually giving newbies like myself a chance to be coached for free so, why not?! It'll be awesome if I can actually pick up some tips from you.
I do have Skype but I'm using my laptop's mic, so I might not actually sound awesome or something, but yeah, coaching sounds awesome!
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That's perfectlly fine I'll add you when i get on.
I think it's great that you are actually giving newbies like myself a chance to be coached for free so, why not?! It'll be awesome if I can actually pick up some tips from you.
I do have Skype but I'm using my laptop's mic, so I might not actually sound awesome or something, but yeah, coaching sounds awesome!
Also, just comfirmed a few hours ago, that i will have pretty much every day avliable aslong as i don't have any BSGCL commitments on that day, or the occasional day where i be social, so i have plenty of time now to be able to put into this.
Such a good idea to be helping out the community.. and yeah the biggest way to learn this game is to have some practice partners and people to help you look at your game and isolate you faults and where you can improve...
I, personally love teaching new players and have coached a few mates and my brother to help them on their way to gold and beyond.. and once they are out of bronze/silver they make great practice partners along the way to us all getting into GM....
Nevertheless, if there is any demand for it i'm more than willing to help other players learn and develop.. Personally I'm only a Gold level Protoss player, which I can to some degree atribute that to not having any time to ladder with Uni commitments.. I do however feel I have a higher level of skill.. with notable attributes to taking a game off NA Grand Master player and pro-gamer RGN.Future, in the NASL Season 2 qualifiers (yeah I entered it - was a bit of fun...) and a few close games against Master league players in ESL's...
Nevertheless - I'll also be available for free coaching (particularly as my Uni semester comes to an end for 5 months at the end of this week!!!) For any Protoss players and Zerg players (yes Also play alot of Zerg and have considered the switch from time to time.. but I played Protoss in BW so i'll stick at it..)
If your interested, PM me here or Add me on B.Net ChadMann.754 and we can sort out Skype sessions for coaching - otherwise, if your receiving coaching, feel free to add me to practice and trial strats and builds..
No mention to me, then proceds to Hijack my thread. :S
aww.. haha sorry bro.. just agree with your method of supporting the community! I'm sure we both are not available 100% of the time and I'm here to help everyone if they need it or if your too busy bro..
aww.. haha sorry bro.. just agree with your method of supporting the community! I'm sure we both are not available 100% of the time and I'm here to help everyone if they need it or if your too busy bro..
gogo SC2 SEA community ftw!...
all good. i was just disappointed it seemed that way.
actaully, i'll paste your bit into the OP so that there is mutliple optinons for people at diffierent times
all good. i was just disappointed it seemed that way.
actaully, i'll paste your bit into the OP so that there is mutliple optinons for people at diffierent times
Not my intention to hijack ur thread man... Just think its a great idea and I've enjoyed coaching my mates in games... My understanding of the game is, I think, pretty good.. just don't have the time to practice etc.. not yet anyway..
Thanks for adding to the OP.. just say I'm also available, its ChadMann.754
People can learn more from multiple eyes and different people see different things. If anyone wants help with their game, hit up Synzita - if he is busy.. I'm keen to help if you catch me online.
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I think this community owes people like Synizta and ChadMann a huge one; they're spending their free time (which they could very well have used for their own personal gains) to teach utter noobs (like meself) the intricacies of this easy-to-learn-yet-near-impossible-to-master game. They deserve a resounding round of applause, at the very least.
Heck, maybe soon enough we'll see the both of them plying their trade onto a lite version of sc2sea's Grandmaster Manual coaching?
I think this community owes people like Synizta and ChadMann a huge one; they're spending their free time (which they could very well have used for their own personal gains) to teach utter noobs (like meself) the intricacies of this easy-to-learn-yet-near-impossible-to-master game. They deserve a resounding round of applause, at the very least.
Heck, maybe soon enough we'll see the both of them plying their trade onto a lite version of sc2sea's Grandmaster Manual coaching?
Hahaha.. I can't see myself coaching for GM Manual (gotta be a GM for that..)
but thanks for the appreciation.. and the best part was watching you in game one.. utterly sucking.. then in the last games of the session.. actually learning from what we talked about and playing much better games.. If you can keep it up Gold is not far away for you mate. Enjoyed the session, till next time.. keep that macro flowing... and react to what you scout!..
Hahaha.. I can't see myself coaching for GM Manual (gotta be a GM for that..)
but thanks for the appreciation.. and the best part was watching you in game one.. utterly sucking.. then in the last games of the session.. actually learning from what we talked about and playing much better games.. If you can keep it up Gold is not far away for you mate. Enjoyed the session, till next time.. keep that macro flowing... and react to what you scout!..
gl hf..
I'll take this opportunity to vouch for the quality of coaching the two fine gentlemen here can provide.
As stated above, my first game against Chad was standard Wood League gameplay (non-existent army, laughable forcefield placement (that's right, only one forcefield), 2 forges with no upgrades queued; the works, basically). That's when Chad and Synizta started to constantly give me on-the-fly feedback, build recommendations, army compositions and so on.
I have learned much more in 2 hours with them than the past 2 months which I've used to gank the Bronze ladder. I am sure that many people will benefit from the training and assistance they will provide, which in turn will make this community a much better place to play in.
Hahaha.. I can't see myself coaching for GM Manual (gotta be a GM for that..)
but thanks for the appreciation.. and the best part was watching you in game one.. utterly sucking.. then in the last games of the session.. actually learning from what we talked about and playing much better games.. If you can keep it up Gold is not far away for you mate. Enjoyed the session, till next time.. keep that macro flowing... and react to what you scout!..
gl hf..
^.^
I think main thing is putting what is being told to you into action without the person talking to you, telling you should be doing. Like producing probes, putting down more production, etc.
Only achievable through skype. This coaching's better than the coaching you get from Masters players who aren't able to communicate on skype with you. By the time their instructions come through, you're already too late.
Only achievable through skype. This coaching's better than the coaching you get from Masters players who aren't able to communicate on skype with you. By the time their instructions come through, you're already too late.
yeah.. for some reason I didn't set up Skype with EvilSWAT at the time.. in the early games I typed too him while watching a few pointers.. nothing drastic.. but between games we went into some deeper analysis - really I think Evil is a good learner and has some natural ability at the game... But as I said, I taught him about understanding what he can see from the scouting he makes - Terran with no gas - Fast expand.. things like that... Zerg taking more that 100 gas - its not going to be just lings.. things like that..
then after he learnt those elements, I worked with him as to what the right kind of reaction is and worked on his macro... During the practice session, he went from being a low league push over, to beating Gold league players (not me tho.. ahhahaha)
GG - I had loads of fun, specially when Synzita jumped on and help us with it also... So anyone that thinks they need a hand with their game, don't hesitate to PM Synzita or I or talk to us on B.Net (our details are on the OP)
gl hf.
I won't be avliable Thursday due to my participation in the BSGCL Allstars. also too Friday or Saturday to provide any sesions, due to real life commitments, so if anyone whos already showed intrest in coaching and havn't been able to a get a session yet, contact Chadmann for a session on either day this weekend, im pretty sure he's more then happy to do so
Turns out tonight (Thursday) ended up having some coaching done.
Would like to announce that thus far the coaching is going well and going strong, with basic openers, and some of the timings, etc,
Anyway, just backing up, Friday (tommrow) and PERHAPS saturday (Unlikely) I won't be taking anyone.
Just had a session with Synizta, it's my first ever coaching session by anyone, and it was good, can't say great cause I haven't had a serious one with him yet? Like I would play and he would guide etc. But for such an initiative whereby his doing it for free, it's super awesome and sweet. Chadmann was there to help as well, really great too so thanks for that Chad! Also met EvilSwat, a fellow Singaporean. :P
Great voice, although the accent was a little bit hard to grasp initially for a Singaporean like myself, but it was all good
Just going to practice hard and see where I go. I went into SC2 because of my competitive nature anyway (and there is a scene for it in Singapore? DotA as well, but I'm an individualist :X) but since I'm absolutely horrible now there's no saying where I'll go. Probably max silver/gold? :P /lowconfidence.
I'm a silver protoss and looking for some pointers - my main problem seems to be coordinating scouting and macroing. If I ignore scouting to work on macro I often get rolled by a rush or a bunch of counter/surprise units. On a different note, I think a player of his (diamond) caliber would be well suited to teaching bsg players because a GM might just look at one of our games and think 'where do I start?' ... ^^ thanks
I'm a silver protoss and looking for some pointers - my main problem seems to be coordinating scouting and macroing. If I ignore scouting to work on macro I often get rolled by a rush or a bunch of counter/surprise units. On a different note, I think a player of his (diamond) caliber would be well suited to teaching bsg players because a GM might just look at one of our games and think 'where do I start?' ... ^^ thanks
sure man.. Add myself and Syn and we can help you out.. his details are on the OP and my bnet character is ChadMann with character code 754.
Hit me up if you need some help.. I practice alot with my team for the BSG CL so there are other players in the practice sessions often for you to practice your different match ups... if you want to join in with us - that would be fine..
But a usual session involves games with a bit of discussion before hand as to the players plan (privately, so they don't know what each other are doing.. lol) and then the observers have a chat about the game as it goes... like 'do you think that is a good idea?' 'should he push now?.. etc etc... and we all learn together.. of course there are usually some discussion after the game to talk about mistakes and what can be done to avoid them..
sure man.. Add myself and Syn and we can help you out.. his details are on the OP and my bnet character is ChadMann with character code 754.
Hit me up if you need some help.. I practice alot with my team for the BSG CL so there are other players in the practice sessions often for you to practice your different match ups... if you want to join in with us - that would be fine..
But a usual session involves games with a bit of discussion before hand as to the players plan (privately, so they don't know what each other are doing.. lol) and then the observers have a chat about the game as it goes... like 'do you think that is a good idea?' 'should he push now?.. etc etc... and we all learn together.. of course there are usually some discussion after the game to talk about mistakes and what can be done to avoid them..
This sounds great, and like a lot of fun - without much of the pressure of the usual ranked slog. Thanks a lot !
Also, what time do you guys usually have a jam?.. and what time zone?
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Thanks ToRSynizta for the tips. It characters like yourself that give the community a good image.
Have to say I didnt really perform to my potential (sooo much micro...ahhhhhhh) and was the first time I had ever played outside the ladder. Had me sweating bullets but loved the chance to get some feedback on my games.
2 thumbs up for giving your time up for us noobs. Will have to do it again when I have practiced a little more. Cheers
My time is still extremely limited currently.
When time avliable i will do some coaching, otherwise i will re-direct to Chadmann, as he's offered to help as well.
hey ive been in the top 8 for the past month now trying to get top spot but every time im one win away i go on a losing streak so i go back to 3rd or 4th and i think someone to watch where im making mistakes can help im bronze and trying to break out i really wanna go pro but thats a dream and a dream that i hope one day comes true i play toss best race there is anyway to the point i need help with rushes against me any help would be appreciated
hey ive been in the top 8 for the past month now trying to get top spot but every time im one win away i go on a losing streak so i go back to 3rd or 4th and i think someone to watch where im making mistakes can help im bronze and trying to break out i really wanna go pro but thats a dream and a dream that i hope one day comes true i play toss best race there is anyway to the point i need help with rushes against me any help would be appreciated
I challenge you to a duel.
The loser changes their name indefinitely.
There is only one TheChad!.
this is my brothers accont my account got lost a long time ago so im useing his acount and cant change it (he doesnt play sc2 MP) so he allowed me to use his account and i get to play sc2 when HOTS comes out i go back to my account
also TADivinity i was simply explaining my situation to the ppl offering coaching to protoss players in bronze and silver i am the first so i asked for coaching
Wolf, it's just an ongoing joke that coincidentally was heated up by the I.D that you have on here ('TheChad'). No one is questioning your motives don't worry
ok than i see . breadfan will use in future .TAChadMann i will vs you but as i said not my account and will not change the name so there would be no reason for the duel
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Speaking of coaching, i have some free time, i'll gladly coach any low-level Protoss players, hell i could probs help some evenlower-than-low level T/Z players (i play random... alot)
I'm a plat protoss player, but im playing as random now. T_T (Rank1 gold random player on NA, rank 15-ish gold on SEA)
Notable achievements : Never lost to Chadmann. Not once.
PM me on here or something, idk, account deets are on here somewhere too.
Synitza's idea though of course, so he should be your no1 choice for coaching/help!
had the other chad and smoky watch over my game last night one thing i need to work is is that probe production also learn all the hot keys off by heart and learn to be able to use the sentry
This is agreat Idea if you have any spare Time Id be interested in have some coaching i am looking to get more serious about the game and no matter how much I play I always loose.
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