[Meatex]

Also posted this on BNet forums ^^;
I am a platinum zerg and am offering free coaching to any low league zergies who want to improve but find themselves stuck. (sorry can't really help terran's or protoss)
I know i'm no masters top pro or whatever but I can at least get you to gold or plat
Why am I doing this you may ask? Well I enjoy teaching

Also i will be streaming any coaching live so you can also watch it later to review ^^
If you want to give back if you find my coaching useful please follow me at www.justin.tv/meatex

For now i'm thinking 90 minutes per lesson - to make things easier on me if you have a practice partner (preferably someone you cannot beat 95% of the time though I might not be able to help you beat a top diamond or masters ^^ bring them along. Also you may want to prepare some replays that we can go over a little as well.
I can coach specific matchups and/or general stuff like creep spread, macro etc.
You will need skype or mumble (like vent or teamspeak)

I am free during the day on Tuesdays and Thursdays and late nights other days - weekends are possible but I can't guarantee ^^;
I'll take 2 students per day on tuesday and thursday - for now. Times are likely to be 1pm-2:30pm KST and 3pm-4:30pm KST
KST is Seoul, Korea time which is currently 2 hours behind sydney time and 1 hour ahead of singapore time.

[HDPhoenix]

Cheers to more people willing to do this ^^ Props to you Meatex

[ToRDjvillian]

If I'm online then I'm happy to be the person to practice against

[Harmonik]

Wow awesome. Ill take you up on that Meatex.
How about the second slot on Tue? 3-4:30 KST = 5-6:30 AEST

[deL]

Why would you get coaching from a platinum? Fine way to pick up bad habits imo.

Quick Comments

nirvAnA:

alot of BSG players could learn a ton from this, and its a good free experience

[NDG.Stitch]

Hey Meatex,

Might practice with you next week on tues and thurs, i'm diamond terran, but i'm around high gold zerg (on NA) so it'll be nice to get some tips and advices.

[toasti0]

not everyones masters del could help alot of low level zergs plenty of noobs out there that don't know how to play zerg because there mechanics are different to the 2 easy win races.

[Torniquet]

What his saying is that his gold for a reason. Whether it be his build orders arent refined properly doesnt know the right timings or cant multitask effectively or for some other reason i dont know. Basically would be teaching them how to play Gold Zerg not how to play Zerg and can see it being more of a hinderance than a help. Because lower levels will learn wrong builds or really random timings things like that.

Granted yes could probably take someone brand new to the game and teach them basics but anything in depth youd want to learn from one of the best rather than a mid level player.

Now im not like attacking Meatex or anything because yeah i think this could be good for lower level players. Just dont want people to be all well why arent i Masters if youve been coaching me. Lower level players sure, same level or higher well yeah would more than likely be learning a few things that arent 100% correct.

I do like the idea of teaching basics though general concepts and making Vods of them for the lower players so yeah go ahead.

[Kringe]

@del if u have a bronze playerbeing taught by a masters he is going to be worse then a bronze being taught by a plat y because when in masters its all about perfection but at a bronze to gold area its about learning how to play and a lower player will know this and teach acordingly while a masters will go do this this and this and u will win a bronze needs more help then just that

[deL]

Originally Posted by Kringe

@del if u have a bronze playerbeing taught by a masters he is going to be worse then a bronze being taught by a plat y because when in masters its all about perfection but at a bronze to gold area its about learning how to play and a lower player will know this and teach acordingly while a masters will go do this this and this and u will win a bronze needs more help then just that

Nope.

Do you think people just turned up and were masters? No, they've all been through the gold/plat stages or maybe they just played another RTS like WC3 or BW before and went through it then. Masters players can cover all the gold/plat level stuff as well as the higher level stuff.

[Benji]

Originally Posted by Kringe

@del if u have a bronze playerbeing taught by a masters he is going to be worse then a bronze being taught by a plat y because when in masters its all about perfection but at a bronze to gold area its about learning how to play and a lower player will know this and teach acordingly while a masters will go do this this and this and u will win a bronze needs more help then just that

Wrong.

The Master player will teach you what you need to know to get better immidiately as well as lay some foundations to allow the player to build towards Masters in the future, the plat player is stuck at play for a reason, and the reason is either their mechanics are poor or they don't understand the game. The plat player can proberbly get you to Plat faster with allins etc, but you will get stuck there with him, and you'll have to relearn how to play.

[NDG.Stitch]

Well guys, I mean Meatex is not charging anything to coach players.
But Benji / deL have a point, ofc having a masters coach is a lot more helpful in the long run than having a platinum coach. But meh - it'd be a nice practice/advice session so I mean I'm down for it.

[deL]

I am just worried that plat players are going to teach something wrong or make players pick up bad habits that will hinder them from getting better in the future.

[TAhackdZ]

Originally Posted by Kringe

@del if u have a bronze playerbeing taught by a masters he is going to be worse then a bronze being taught by a plat y because when in masters its all about perfection but at a bronze to gold area its about learning how to play and a lower player will know this and teach acordingly while a masters will go do this this and this and u will win a bronze needs more help then just that

I disagree.

I get taught by a Master's player, and he's helped me get from Bronze to Plat. Covers all the basics, macro mechanics, etc.

I think it's got less to do with the league the coach is a part of, and more t odo with what they know about the game. Obviously though a Masters level player is simply going to have more experience and know more about the game.

I don't mean any disrespect to Meat though, mad props for being willing to teach people anything for free.

GL.

[Meatex]

Thanks for the interest guys as well as the criticisms
Though I of course disagree that a platnium will always teach bad habits - for the record its my multi tasking thats weakest
I never all in unless team mate asks me to practice against an all in too ^^
@Benji and del
I did state quite clearly that I am bronze and intend to help low league players and I was also upfront that I am not masters (not that being master = good either) and that I may only be able to get a player to gold probably plat
Though I have over 1000 games experience and won't be teaching bad habbits

But given that its free and if a player feels i'm a bad coach because I teach bad habbits then i'm not forcing them to continue being coached by me. Also if i do say something completely wrong you could always watch my stream and correct me ^^
anyway don't be so sure to dismiss me until you see me coach *^.^*

Or you know you could offer free masters level coaching, then I could get coaching from you as well as the guys who would get coaching from me

[Satu]

Hm, we let people as low as bronze league do casting and analysing games and how players can improve, but we cannot allow them to do the same thing while actually talking directly to the players. How strange.

On a side note, I also have been coaching zerg players in lower leagues than myself. Im diamond on SEA and NA for 1v1 now, was only recently platinum and got to ~ 3200 at the end of season 1 on SEA. Add me, Zergtastic.610 on SEA or Zergtastic.353 on NA.

Im not trying to hijack the thread either, lul.

[Meatex]

Lol its cool
More people step up to do something similar the better
Was hoping higher league players would jump on board

[rezyn8]

Everyone has to start somewhere

[TAminimat]

I am also looking to teach some gold/platinum/diamond players and will be doing payed lessons with masters and grandmasters.

[Meatex]

minmat this thread isn't for pimping your paid coaching
free or make another thread plz ^^

But funny I make a post for free coaching and have elitist guys infer basically i'm a noob and then out come masters asking for money for same thing :P But hey if you got the money throw it around - he or tgun probably would have more insight than myself ^^
But I was offering to help SEA community when no one else was really offering anything similar
I remember when SEA community was a lot more open and friendly and less you are not masters gtfo