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aLtNinja · Thu, 11th-Aug-2011, 4:40 PM

I agree with deL and PiG

**Cordance** · Thu, 11th-Aug-2011, 4:50 PM

A long long while back we use to have a rule stating if you won the community open you could not play for I believe it was 4 weeks, to give a rotation to the winners. I think at the time it was to stop moonglade from ninjaing all our money. It might be worth looking at revisiting that rule. This would enable those who wish to play against these said best.

Also if they cheat around this rule you will know if they are just here to ninja your money.

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Primex · Thu, 11th-Aug-2011, 5:20 PM

I think it's good that they have come here to see and test the skill level of SEA players. But if they just stick around to take all the wins and money from tournaments, then that's not really any fun or good. I have noticed that they ladder, well at least KingKong because he is GM so maybe he/they are here to stay?

deL · Thu, 11th-Aug-2011, 6:18 PM

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**JacziE** · Thu, 11th-Aug-2011, 6:36 PM

OT: I love the discussion in this thread. Super constructive. Especially the reputation comments!

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nirvAnA:

i always hoped for the rep to be used like this hence my "naziness" against a few whiners who said remove it completely

noobinater · Thu, 11th-Aug-2011, 7:02 PM

Seems pretty straight forward.

Do they live long term in an SEA country?
Moonglade lives in Australia long term so if he plays from Korea that's fine.
Major lives in the US and has no buisness playing in an SEA tournment.

If these guys live in Korea, they shouldn't be playing in "SEA" tournaments. This isn't something like the IPL, this is an sc2sea.com tournament.

Slightly OT: I love how people like Del are saying it's too hard for us to compete with them because we can't match their practice regime, what do they think Gold league scrubs feel when they enter the GPD for example :P

AZKziek · Thu, 11th-Aug-2011, 7:05 PM

I'm not sure why people would attempt to disallow others to participate in SEA tournaments as there's no real way to police this anyway. It's still entirely possible for players to use their friends accounts, etc to still participate in tournaments.

EDIT: American players aren't as good as the top level Koreans for the most part aswell, but do they disallow Koreans to play in SEA? No. They've even created partnerships with Gom to help bring both countries together. All this is doing is if we disallow Koreans to play here is creating a negative view of the SEA scene.

TCPLemminks · Thu, 11th-Aug-2011, 7:14 PM

DeL pretty much said what I wanted to say, in that let them play but make the prize money only eligible for SEA citizens. Another idea would be to make the prize more of a community rep reward than a financial reward. I'm guessing that we could remove the prize pool from one CO and see if they still decide to participate in it or not. If they don't, then we can assume they're just joining for the "easy" money.

It's interesting to note that they haven't posted in this thread yet, as I'm sure some of their clanmates who frequent here would have told them about it. It would also be nice if we could get a statement from the leader of SPR about their participation in their community, be it constructive or not.

In all fairness it's not really a community open if the people who win it are not part of the community...Then again there are those who participate and are not part of the community as well.

AZKziek · Thu, 11th-Aug-2011, 8:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Lemminks

DeL pretty much said what I wanted to say, in that let them play but make the prize money only eligible for SEA citizens. Another idea would be to make the prize more of a community rep reward than a financial reward. I'm guessing that we could remove the prize pool from one CO and see if they still decide to participate in it or not. If they don't, then we can assume they're just joining for the "easy" money.

It's interesting to note that they haven't posted in this thread yet, as I'm sure some of their clanmates who frequent here would have told them about it. It would also be nice if we could get a statement from the leader of SPR about their participation in their community, be it constructive or not.

In all fairness it's not really a community open if the people who win it are not part of the community...Then again there are those who participate and are not part of the community as well.

Why would anyone want to take up their own time to play in a TOURNAMENT for no reward? That's the entire purpose of playing.

TCPLemminks · Thu, 11th-Aug-2011, 8:39 PM

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Originally Posted by AZKziek

Why would anyone want to take up their own time to play in a TOURNAMENT for no reward? That's the entire purpose of playing.

It may just be humble ol' me but the spirit of the competition and it gives a brilliant chance to learn from better players. To be fair the BSG doesn't have a financial reward, unless you count qualification to the BSG cup, which is unfortunately now discontinued.

deL · Thu, 11th-Aug-2011, 10:03 PM

yCh is already in ST he's 100% unusable. Soulman I still think is pretty unfair even if he is a free agent at the moment, no one wants SEA CWs to turn in to some 'token korean vs token korean' match.

Xenomorph · Thu, 11th-Aug-2011, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by TAdeL

yCh is already in ST he's 100% unusable. Soulman I still think is pretty unfair even if he is a free agent at the moment, no one wants SEA CWs to turn in to some 'token korean vs token korean' match.

I think that saying that ych is 100% unusable off the bat is pretty harsh. If its an offcial SEA team league, I would think it best that it be upto the admins/organisers to decide on the rules on the usage of these 2 players, whether it be under my terms which I stated above or even stricter, or even completely barring them from the tourney. If its a friendly clan war between SPR and clan X I don't see what'd be wrong with using one of them as a closer.

deL · Thu, 11th-Aug-2011, 10:43 PM

Because he's already in a team?

ShinyA · Thu, 11th-Aug-2011, 10:48 PM

Agree with Del~

AZKziek · Fri, 12th-Aug-2011, 1:37 AM

Something else to point out, the name of the event is a "community open".
Ask yourself, are they part of the SC2SEA community? The answer lies within.

Benji · Fri, 12th-Aug-2011, 8:55 AM

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Originally Posted by AZKziek

Something else to point out, the name of the event is a "community open".
Ask yourself, are they part of the SC2SEA community? The answer lies within.

Community is such a vague word, Half the people that sign up don't even post on the forums. Should they be barred from entering as well?