[Peleus]

I suppose I'll bring up a few points since I was the one who originally bought up the topic of asking for balloon (and others) to play.

Firstly - intro thread. This was never a requirement for him to play. No one on sc2sea asked him to do it, no one in SPR asked him to do it, he was already deemed eligable before he made the post. It's simply being nice and trying to make friends in the sea community (hell ask anyone in the spr channel lately with balloon pestering everyone to introduce him to TA members, giving out his email for real id, etc). Balloon never asked me to make the thread asking for him to play.

The post had nothing but good intentions so let's not misrepresent it as some sinister attempt to hoodwink the community.

Secondly - eligibility. Yes I agree clear rules should be made, as most people here know I was pushing for them constantly before I even asked about some players specifically. At least now clear guidelines have been set down. One of the biggest issues I see though is the perception that 'ladder games mean nothing'. To begin with there are very few metrics involved in determining community involvement, so unfortunately the ones we have most likely won't be perfect, but what do you guys really want before they will be accepted? Tiger and yCh for example have played in tons of sea tournaments, and despite being barred from the majority of them still joining the ones they can (I.e. latest masters cup). With all that however its still not enough apparently to be classed as involved in the community, hence denied entry into seal. No worries, I don't have a problem with that, but suddenly were reaching situations where a) ladder games are meaningless b) joining tournaments is meaningless c) even making efforts to post in a non-native language on a forum and buying a sc2 account on a foreign server is being called into question.... Well - wtf do you want?

Suddenly they aren't part of the community until they play more ladder games here than 95% of other players, and even then it will be called into question because they are 'KR awesome players and 50000 games is easy for them?'

Sorry for the angry tone, but I'm really starting to get super frustrated with roadblock after roadblock being thrown up for people that try and integrate into our community then others wondering why our isolated SEA server doesn't start getting exposure on other servers.

Quick Comments

	nGenLight:	You have good intentions, but cool your head buddy, noone is attacking anyone.
	TAEdgE:	good points :) agree with ray though