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Redirected from here as to not spoil BalloonSPR's introduction thread. http://www.sc2sea.com/showpost.php?p=59623&postcount=32 (being good at starcraft gets you alot of priviledges and fans that will defend you)

I will save the introduction and theory as we have been through this stuff many times and get right to the question:

My original post:

First of all, welcome to SC2SEA BalloonSPR.

Not intending to bring a negative tone to such a warming thread. But somebody had to bring this subject up. I'm going to have negs reps fired my way, but this discussion needs to be had.

Considering the OP is at the subject of whether or not he was permitted to play in the SEACL, does writing an introduction thread and playing 100 ladder games very quickly put him in the same category to someone like SoulmanSPR whos been around for a while.

I am not trying to convince anybody to change his status in SEACL, just wanted to discuss with everyone - hearing the thoughts of everyone about acheiving SEACL eligibility after such very simple requirements (introduction thread + 100 ladder games), because this is what MasterSPR was advocating for the rest of his original SPR lineup - of how to become an "active" member of SEA.

I firmly believe if he continues to play alot and be involved in the scene, there would be no question of his eligibility for the next SEA event. But the sudden eligibility to play in SEACL just makes the introduction thread a little less transparent.

If I am wrong and Balloon has actually been involved in the scene for yonks and I'm just clueless, I apologize and please disregard my post.

Since this is a new thread and I don't have to pretend to be kind, I'm just going to lay it out pretty flat: What does it take for a NON-SEA Citizen/Resident to achieve egibility at SC2SEA events?

For precedence: (1) We have allowed all NON-SEA Citizens/Residents to participate in the SEACO with no limits to them. (2) Eddie's Master Cup has a 100 ladder game rule.

During the debate with MasterSPR: Numerous members have brought up how easily 100 ladder games can be achieved, especially by these StarCraft machines and have unanimously revoked that idea of achieving "community status" for eligibility to the SEACL.

So is the rule: 100 ladder games on SEA + Posting on SC2SEA.com? Because if that was the case MasterSPR would have taken that option in a heartbeat. Or is it, 100 ladder games on SEA + Make people/mods from SC2SEA/Admins like you enough to accept you by the "admin discretion rule". (Taking nothing away from Balloon's introduction thread, it is authentic and warmful, it just came at a controversial timing, with his sudden eligibity to play in the SEACL creating a question mark for myself, for reasons of purely political correctness.)

A ground rule should be set in stone, like Eddie's Master Cup of 100 ladder games is set in stone. Otherwise the "admin discretion rule" is going to completely break the argument many of us used against MasterSPR - Its too easy and simple to ladder 100 games and post a thread (An initiation to achieve activeness at SEA should not be counted as proven part of the communtiy). NON-SEA Citizens/Residents needs to be proven part of the community to achieve eligibility to major SEA events - Committing to SEA right before a tournament is not proof that this person is going to continue to be a part of this community. In this case, I feel the "admin discretion rule" was given to BalloonSPR with the benefit of the doubt that he will continue to be apart of the SEA community - To whether he will or not, I won't discuss this as I do not know him apart from the first impression via the introduction thread, which is very nice I must say. My only question is, why would this stop all members of MasterSPR's original SPR lineup to decide to do exactly what balloon did here? You guys do remember disagreeing to that right? Was the inclusion of a post on SC2SEA the difference? I am not trying to take a side, I just think some things should be set in stone.

Discuss.

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	Maynarde:	Good thread
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