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Unread Sun, 8th-Apr-2012, 4:30 PM BnetId: Santi.447  Race: Clan: ETL  Location: Sydney, Australia  Total Posts Made: 312 # 21
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I had money on Prime, the disconnect almost gave me a heart attack.
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Unread Sun, 8th-Apr-2012, 5:48 PM BnetId: Mox.797  Race: Location: Adelaide, Australia  Total Posts Made: 159 # 22
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I agree that it sort of undermines the overall result, but in reality it was probably fair to replay the game. Sure, Parting could have theoretically pushed in and won, but that game was so back and forth and so intense, its tough to just adjudicate it either way. I think the rematch was the fairest possible option.
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Unread Sun, 8th-Apr-2012, 5:57 PM BnetId: elimzkE.250  Race: Clan: FvR  Location: Brisbane, Australia  Total Posts Made: 157 # 23
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One does not simply stop communicating with the network..

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Unread Sun, 8th-Apr-2012, 6:01 PM BnetId: pyrox.385  Race: Clan: ToR  Location: India  Total Posts Made: 376 # 24
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Not sure if this has been posted but coach gerrard from prime had this to say in the interview.
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I ask GomTV to release the replay so that there is no misunderstanding. If Startale or the fans think that Parting deserved a win, I will resign as team Prime’s coach.
Will be nice if they do, the replay will give a lot to discuss on (though I doubt if he would resign lol).

Read the full interview here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/view...opic_id=327329
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Unread Sun, 8th-Apr-2012, 6:03 PM BnetId: [fray]FLuX.195  Race: Clan: mGG  Location: Dunedin, New Zealand  Total Posts Made: 860 # 25
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I ask GomTV to release the replay so that there is no misunderstanding. If Startale or the fans think that Parting deserved a win, I will resign as team Prime’s coach.
That's some ballsy talk. Awkward moment when everyone watches it and realize that Parting actually did deserve the win.
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Unread Sun, 8th-Apr-2012, 6:07 PM BnetId: SmirkToT.390  Race: Clan: ToT  Location: Perth  Total Posts Made: 158 # 26
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actually mkp was a victim of dc one day before(against stephano game one)
this time it came to parting.
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Unread Sun, 8th-Apr-2012, 6:12 PM BnetId: ToRnicknack 470  Race: Location: Melbourne  Total Posts Made: 121 # 27
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just curious have there been similar situations with disconnects in BW?
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Unread Sun, 8th-Apr-2012, 6:19 PM BnetId: pyrox.385  Race: Clan: ToR  Location: India  Total Posts Made: 376 # 28
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^^ There have been some very very stupid situations in bw due to kespa rules. And I think there as a situation where the game was called off cause a progamer fainted. Not sure about a disconnect though, it was mostly lan, so you didnt have to hear the vehicle of e-sports speech too often.
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Unread Sun, 8th-Apr-2012, 6:27 PM BnetId: cR.kez772 (NA)  Race: Clan: cR/TA  Location: Melbourne, Australia  Total Posts Made: 966 # 29
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Yeah flash vs jaedong in BW not sure which year, pretty much jaedong clawed his way back into the game was was in a commanding lead and someone dc'd and they awarded the game to jaedong and ppl qq'd about for years. The internet is going to qq regardless of their decision. If they awarded the game to Parting there would be as many ppl crying about it as people crying about the game being remade. All in all it sucks ass, people need to move on, and mkp still played extremely well to beat parting again and then the rest of ST as well
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Unread Sun, 8th-Apr-2012, 6:49 PM BnetId: SmirkToT.390  Race: Clan: ToT  Location: Perth  Total Posts Made: 158 # 30
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Unread Sun, 8th-Apr-2012, 7:04 PM BnetId: [fray]FLuX.195  Race: Clan: mGG  Location: Dunedin, New Zealand  Total Posts Made: 860 # 31
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The decision itself doesn't REALLY matter. The real problem is that Blizzard still aren't implementing LAN into a game that has big tournaments; with big money for high-perfoming players/teams. I think Blizzard should implement LAN, and even if it doesn't make a difference, they can at least say "Well, we gave you what you wanted" and people can stop blaming them.
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Unread Sun, 8th-Apr-2012, 7:25 PM BnetId: Rhuubarb 120 (SEA) 634 (NA)  Race: Clan: VB  Location: Melbourne, Australia  Total Posts Made: 168 # 32
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They can't add a traditional LAN function cause it will make it easier for people to pirate sc2. Also they'll lose control over how companies can use it, a la kepsa and Brood War. Hopefully though the quote...

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... means that people will be able to connect to each other without constant connection to battle.net (just initial connection). If they can do that, it might help (not in this situation though).
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Unread Sun, 8th-Apr-2012, 7:25 PM BnetId: cruxSpoon.276  Race: Location: Brisbane, Australia  Total Posts Made: 166 # 33
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The decision itself doesn't REALLY matter. The real problem is that Blizzard still aren't implementing LAN into a game that has big tournaments; with big money for high-perfoming players/teams. I think Blizzard should implement LAN, and even if it doesn't make a difference, they can at least say "Well, we gave you what you wanted" and people can stop blaming them.
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I agree, but in THIS situation, LAN wouldnt have helped. The computer lost connection to the network, like a plug pull.
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Unread Sun, 8th-Apr-2012, 8:38 PM Total Posts Made: 23 # 34
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you didnt have to hear the vehicle of e-sports speech too often.
To be fair a lot of those speeches are about settings problems, hardware issues, etc. not just from disconnects.

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Yeah this was at MSL finals - http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/view...opic_id=110665
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Unread Sun, 8th-Apr-2012, 11:32 PM BnetId: Tonsh. 510  Race: Location: Wollongong, Australia  Total Posts Made: 31 # 35
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Parting had that game... there needs to be a reconnect option!

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Unread Sun, 8th-Apr-2012, 11:47 PM Who's Who:   Clan: None  Location: Melbourne  Total Posts Made: 2,231 # 36
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I agree, but in THIS situation, LAN wouldnt have helped. The computer lost connection to the network, like a plug pull.
Yeah but these days games like Dotas have reconnect technology, so if a plug DOES get pulled then you can just go back into it accordingly.

and LAN would ALWAYS be awesome.
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Unread Mon, 9th-Apr-2012, 3:32 AM BnetId: nGenXeen.438  Race: Location: Singapore  Total Posts Made: 380 # 37
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Agree with ref's decision.

It's absurd that we still find ourselves in this situation, though, so many times after SC2 is released. BW almost never had these issues (Flash vs JD was a power outage, external factor), and to see it at a stage of this size is appalling.

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Unread Mon, 9th-Apr-2012, 8:27 AM BnetId: EveMassaA.522  Race: Clan: Eve  Location: Manchester, UK  Total Posts Made: 110 # 38
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The refs should have shown the reasons for their ruling through at least showing their analysis of the replay on the spot. I mean really I don't think there was anyway MKP was gonna be able to come back from that.
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Unread Mon, 9th-Apr-2012, 10:34 AM BnetId: nGenXeen.438  Race: Location: Singapore  Total Posts Made: 380 # 39
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Yes, it's extremely unlikely that MKP could come back, but what's immediately in question is whether he was going to die right there. Anything more requires assumptions about how the game would go, and you can't award games on assumption.
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