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Unread Sun, 10th-Aug-2014, 9:47 PM BnetId: natuRe.839  Race: Location: Aus  Total Posts Made: 15 # 1
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Starcraft 2 in General

Hey guys

Im really new to starcraft 2, played my first non ranked game today and won with protoss
so im pretty happy

Im just wondering , what is the general base of information that i need to know for sc2? like in terms of hotkeys , etc etc can you guys help me out? and what does cheese mean.. ahah

Also , is protoss a good race to start with ?

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Unread Sun, 10th-Aug-2014, 9:52 PM Who's Who:   Race: Location: Singapore  Total Posts Made: 1,210 # 2
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Yes, Protoss is a good race to start with. General base of information for a start is, don't stop making Probes and Pylons, and leave mineral saturation at 16/24. Keep your money as low as possible (like playing whack-a-mole).

In terms of hotkeys, I recommend learning with The Core. They're ergonomically designed so that you don't tire out your hands as fast as if you were to use the normal hotkeys settings.

Generally:

1 / 2 - Army
3 / 4 - Spellcasters / Miscellaneous units
5 - Nexus
6 onwards - Gateways, Robo, Stargates, any building you wanna hotkey

If there's any more questions it's nice to ask, just drop by in chatbox and usually people will be there to answer your questions

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I wouldn't tell a new player to stop making probes at any point. They can figure it out when they are ready
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Unread Sun, 10th-Aug-2014, 9:57 PM BnetId: natuRe.839  Race: Location: Aus  Total Posts Made: 15 # 3
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ahk yeah I understand about if a saturated economy then expand

I see these people saying they learn with these hotkey setups , does that mean like going into your settings and adjusting to what the website says ? or is it installing a hot key file

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any reason why some people say protoss is a noob race aswell haha
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Unread Sun, 10th-Aug-2014, 10:01 PM Who's Who:   Race: Location: Singapore  Total Posts Made: 1,210 # 4
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I see these people saying they learn with these hotkey setups , does that mean like going into your settings and adjusting to what the website says ? or is it installing a hot key file
Nope, you download the file. If you Ctrl-F the TeamLiquid Thread and search for "File Location", it will tell you where to overwrite the file containing the hotkeys so you don't have to manually key in for everyone of them.

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any reason why some people say protoss is a noob race aswell haha
To be as unbiased as possible, it's the race that requires the least mechanics to properly macro. By macroing I would mean making workers, making army and attacking into another army. Protoss units are generally stronger than units of the same tier for other races, and can rip through your army without any micro. Other races on the other hand, need more micro to win fights more favourably and also need to do harder things to make their army (Terran has to constantly queue up units, Zerg has to constantly inject larvaes, while Protoss has Warp Gates that, once they are off cooldown, can warp in more units)
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Unread Sun, 10th-Aug-2014, 10:12 PM BnetId: natuRe.839  Race: Location: Aus  Total Posts Made: 15 # 5
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i see i see
so do you recommend just learning build orders?
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Unread Sun, 10th-Aug-2014, 10:17 PM Who's Who:   Race: Location: Singapore  Total Posts Made: 1,210 # 6
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i see i see
so do you recommend just learning build orders?
It's a good way to start. Follow build orders, try to execute it the fastest and closest to the normal thing you can. You can look up for build orders by Googling, it's not that hard. However, this place is quite good for you to start.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sc2-...help-me-thread

Over there, there are many FAQs for Protoss, and they have also included general openings for the 3 races in the first spoiler. If you don't know what a 1 Gate FE is, try searching for it on Liquipedia or Google.
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Unread Sun, 10th-Aug-2014, 10:18 PM BnetId: sRNamakaye.100  Race: Clan: IXL  Location: Brisbane, Australia  Total Posts Made: 647 # 7
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People always say "use this hotkey setup etc. etc." but my personal opinion is, use whatever feels comfortable. I don't feel comfortable reaching past 6 so i dont hotkey anything past there, to make up for not hotkeying things like maybe robo or forges, i go through and produce/upgrade when im chronoing. Also I dont like haveing my nexus on 5 like some do cause i like to use my thuimb for c and it feels uncomfortable so i have it on 1. just things like that that are up to YOU and YOU ONLY.

As for general gameplay stuff, first thing you should focus on is probes and pylons. dont worry too much about things like build orders, base saturation, micro, unit compositions, you will learn those as you get better and watch some pro games.
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Unread Sun, 10th-Aug-2014, 10:23 PM BnetId: DroneProbe.445 NA  Race: Clan: ETL  Location: Adelaide, Australia  Total Posts Made: 228 # 8
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Ive been teaching a couple new people to SC2 and ive found fastest results from the students that followed this:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sc2-...ovement-method

The point of using this method isnt so much to win but it teaches you macro which is a lot of the struggle for new players.
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Unread Sun, 10th-Aug-2014, 10:28 PM BnetId: ProzeR.asdf  Race: Clan: sR  Location: Philippines  Total Posts Made: 757 # 9
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whalecum to sc2 and sc2sea!!! And yes, protoss good race, wally and kreamy can confirm huehuehue

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Unread Sun, 10th-Aug-2014, 10:41 PM BnetId: natuRe.839  Race: Location: Aus  Total Posts Made: 15 # 10
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Ahk that's interesting !
Haha thanks prozer I shall whalecum

Well would anybody be will to show me a couple of things ? Also I'm looking for a social team as well to get me started
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Unread Sun, 10th-Aug-2014, 10:46 PM Who's Who:   Race: Location: Singapore  Total Posts Made: 1,210 # 11
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Also I'm looking for a social team as well to get me started
Clans* are a good place to start! Look up at the top left section of SC2SEA home page, you'll see House Clans there. Those are the clans that are currently active, check them out and see which one you like and then contact the clan leader!

Sorry though, at the moment not free to show you a couple of things. Maybe you would like to elaborate what you mean by a couple of things?
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Unread Sun, 10th-Aug-2014, 10:58 PM BnetId: IronLung.336  Race: Clan: DGTV  Location: Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia  Total Posts Made: 82 # 12
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Hello! Welcome to Starcraft! There are a few sites which might help you get a better understanding of the game.

Day9 in a Starcraft celebrity of sorts. He does YouTube videos which run through build orders and stuff. Generally he tries to make you a better gamer. I would definitely recommend this video:
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(Day9 daily #252) which teaches you about the basic mechanics of the game. You should also check out his Newbie Tuesday series on his channel. His videos are kind of long though but they are very informative!

Reddit.com/r/starcraft and reddit.com/r/allthingsprotoss are also good places to look through.

If you're looking for build orders, there's http://imbabuilds.com/ and http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft

And if you've got time, you should check out Day9 Daily #100. It's nothing about learning in starcraft but it's just a nice story to listen to.
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Once again, whalecum to sc2sea and Starcraft
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Unread Sun, 10th-Aug-2014, 10:59 PM Who's Who:   Race: Location: Singapore  Total Posts Made: 1,210 # 13
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Unread Sun, 10th-Aug-2014, 11:00 PM BnetId: sRNamakaye.100  Race: Clan: IXL  Location: Brisbane, Australia  Total Posts Made: 647 # 14
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Whalecum to sc2sea!
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Unread Sun, 10th-Aug-2014, 11:00 PM BnetId: ProzeR.asdf  Race: Clan: sR  Location: Philippines  Total Posts Made: 757 # 15
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I don't think he got what whalecum means… but yeah.. whalecum (say it really fast..? or slow.. whichever works hahaha)
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Unread Sun, 10th-Aug-2014, 11:04 PM BnetId: natuRe.839  Race: Location: Aus  Total Posts Made: 15 # 16
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I kinda get the jist of the whole whalecum thing bahahah; I have actually watched a lot of the day 9 dailys and they are pretty informative ; the guy has a lot to say

And yeah I will check out the In house clans; as I come from an esports backround in competing in Counter strike source and cod4 at high levels so yeah I'm willing to dedicate myself to learning sc2 thouroughly

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Unread Sun, 10th-Aug-2014, 11:14 PM BnetId: sRNamakaye.100  Race: Clan: IXL  Location: Brisbane, Australia  Total Posts Made: 647 # 17
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oh yes day9 dailies #1 for new people 100%
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Unread Mon, 11th-Aug-2014, 11:40 AM BnetId: natuRe.839  Race: Location: Aus  Total Posts Made: 15 # 18
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oh yes day9 dailies #1 for new people 100%
yeah day9 has alot to say in terms of his past experiences , growing up , I nearly cried in one of his videos
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Unread Mon, 11th-Aug-2014, 11:42 AM BnetId: freeedom.168  Race: Clan: KJ  Location: Cebu, Philippines & VA, USA  Total Posts Made: 148 # 19
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I'll have to check that out myself
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Unread Mon, 11th-Aug-2014, 12:03 PM BnetId: NaMeK.869  Race: Clan: ETL  Location: Newcastle, Australia  Total Posts Made: 257 # 20
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