[limjinsutpz]

i heard and saw thread about asg chobo .

yeah its me right..


smurfing is true / hack is not true

first of all , my eng is not good ,

i play for asgchobo sometimes cuz his my fan (mainly feb~now)

ladder and tournament

1time help make 2times more and more

and i understand your feeling . very angry

but i cant do anything for you guys . just tell the truth and tell sry about this .

i love sea community so i have sea acc also have sea friend also

i am really sorry all you guys

i think some sea guys really good sc2 (like pig tgun ender or etc)

i wanna see them soon , big major tournament

my sea server

nick is vVvSeoHyeon . 709

and in channel rossi


anyone want talk to me something

come to channel or whisper now

i wait 1hour cuz really sorry

its all my fault

dont blame korea or chobo or somethings just blame to me

T T

Quick Comments

	TAminimat:	cant even be mad when its in broken english like that
	FvRphoneheha:	Welcome, good for you to apologise
	iVnStinger:
	Peleus:	want to bet? It's straight out blatant cheating and taking money off people like pig / mafia / tgun / rossi etc
	ETL.Santi:	legend
	FaDeHellfyre:	an apology is all good... but it's still cheating
	AsGNabi:	bawwrrr he's so cute. i want to adopt him.
	nirvAnA:	you deserve no positive rep for this, but thanks for posting this
	mGGAequitas:	tsk tsk
	TheGentleman:	Counter-Rep: This is behaviour I frown upon and I don't believe you should be receiving "likes" for this post.
	RicocheT:	Shouldn't have done it in the first place. But that broken english <333
	neKo:	Why are you guys positive repping? what the ****.
	x5.Revenant:	Serious case that deserves neg-rep, but empathize with him a little anw.
	Zepph:	thank you for your apology. Im sure your lesson has been learned.
	CHoBo(kice):
	QEDMazaire:	counterre[
	NDG.Stitch:	lol this guy prob won't care about rep hahahahahah
	FvRsolis:	Welcome to our community! GL HF, don't smurf next time kk you are a really strong player
	TABottles:	WTF is this upvote shit
	TAriiChard:	he knew what he was doing
	sRDante:	Can't neg rep this broken english
	MooZfY:	i feel ya
	EveMassacrisM:	F*** off and don't come back.
	breadfan:	Thanks for coming and making this post at least
	Dexterique:	Forgiven :)

[iVnStinger]

Thank you for taking the time to make this thread. Hope this doesn't happen again.

[NvJazBas]

Direct words from Seohyeon:
만약에
sea서버 사람들이
해외팀 활동같은거
원하지 않는다면
당장 은퇴하고 접을게요 잘못했으니
미련이 없네요 실력도 없고

Translation:
If SEA server community wants me to stop my gaming, I'll gladly accept the punishment and retire. I know what I've done wrong and I know I deserve it if I have to. I have no more attatchment and also skill..(I can't really translate the last line very well. No specific translation.. might want to just ignore the last line that I translated)

So.. I think its up to the whole community?

Quick Comments

	crAzerk:	SC2SEA Korean Translator
	FvRsolis:	Thanks for that :D
	TCPKiaSu:	thanks for the translate.. I think he should keep gaming if he wants to.. it's in none of our right to stop him

[iVnStinger]

Originally Posted by xGKingJazBas

Direct words from Seohyeon:
만약에
sea서버 사람들이
해외팀 활동같은거
원하지 않는다면
당장 은퇴하고 접을게요 잘못했으니
미련이 없네요 실력도 없고

Translation:
If SEA server community wants me to stop my gaming, I'll gladly accept the punishment and retire. I know what I've done wrong and I know I deserve it if I have to. I have no more attatchment and also skill..(I can't really translate the last line very well. No specific translation.. might want to just ignore the last line that I translated)

So.. I think its up to the whole community?

People make mistakes. People do bad things. I don't think he should stop his career. I think he needs a punishment to be aware that what he did was bad.

[iM tgun]

Originally Posted by iVnStinger

People make mistakes. People do bad things. I don't think he should stop his career. I think he needs a punishment to be aware that what he did was bad.

I've spoken to him on bnet, i'm not going to contact any admins. He seems like he was in way over his head, in my opinion.

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iVnStinger:

[x5.Revenant]

Originally Posted by xGKingJazBas

Direct words from Seohyeon:
만약에
sea서버 사람들이
해외팀 활동같은거
원하지 않는다면
당장 은퇴하고 접을게요 잘못했으니
미련이 없네요 실력도 없고

Translation:
If SEA server community wants me to stop my gaming, I'll gladly accept the punishment and retire. I know what I've done wrong and I know I deserve it if I have to. I have no more attatchment and also skill..(I can't really translate the last line very well. No specific translation.. might want to just ignore the last line that I translated)

So.. I think its up to the whole community?

Omg, as much as this is a serious issue here, please don't give up your gaming career. It's a shitstorm that happened, but you can't change it. All you can do now is outlive the past.

Quick Comments

	iM SundeR:	OUTLIVE!
	mGGNemesis:

[nirvAnA]

in before light says

"look at me im a kr and post in broken English everyone thinks its funny and i get mass up rep even after smurfing and deceiving everyone!"

Quick Comments

	crAzerk:	money
	EveJeonSa:
	nGenLight:	**** u slut.

[FaMe]

Originally Posted by nirvAnA

in before light says

"look at me im a kr and post in broken English everyone thinks its funny and i get mass up rep even after smurfing and deceiving everyone!"

Technically he wasn't the one deceiving everyone. Yes, he still did a bad thing but at least he had the balls to come and apologise to what is essentially the SEA community.

Quick Comments

	Cyanide:	apologising after everything laid bare doesn't take balls.
	breadfan:	I would argue facing the community who know what you did to apologise does take some balls.

[iM tgun]

Originally Posted by paragonFaMe

Technically he wasn't the one deceiving everyone. Yes, he still did a bad thing but at least he had the balls to come and apologise to what is essentially the SEA community.

He did much more than apologize. He's definitely learnt his lesson, and anyone who continues to pursue this is.. well, how should I put this tactfully..

A giant cockmunch.

Quick Comments

	mGGAequitas:	you come up with such colourful phrases :)
	FaDeHellfyre:	does apologising change the fact that he was involved in cheating?
	DM.MCZ.Polaris:
	breadfan:	Exactly how giant are we talking here?

[Peleus]

Originally Posted by paragonFaMe

Technically he wasn't the one deceiving everyone. Yes, he still did a bad thing but at least he had the balls to come and apologise to what is essentially the SEA community.

OMFG ARE YOU SERIOUS!?

He is every single bit to blame as Chobo is. Every single person that was knocked out of a tourny because of this guy was robbed of chances to perform, opportunities at prize money, and opportunities to qualify for different things.

I don't think I can ever understand this communities feelings towards the word "sorry" mitigating and changing so much damage that was caused.

Edit: I'm ok with tgun thinking I'm a giant cockmunch because imo "sorry" doesn't cut it.

Quick Comments

	FaDeHellfyre:	agree. saying sorry is good, but doesn't change anything. it's still cheating
	iM tgun:	+Rep for actually willing to give your own opinion.
	RicocheT:	Just cos ur sorry, doesn't make it right
	nirvAnA:	he knocked both glade and ninja out in seasl

[iM tgun]

Originally Posted by Peleus

OMFG ARE YOU SERIOUS!?

He is every single bit to blame as Chobo is. Every single person that was knocked out of a tourny because of this guy was robbed of chances to perform, opportunities at prize money, and opportunities to qualify for different things.

I don't think I can ever understand this communities feelings towards the word "sorry" mitigating and changing so much damage that was caused.

Edit: I'm ok with tgun thinking I'm a giant cockmunch because imo "sorry" doesn't cut it.

He didn't understand the magnitude of what he was doing.

Do you actually understand what he was ******* saying when we logged on (myself, rossi, jaz, rev) to talk to him?

He wanted to quit progaming because of this. Legit quit progaming, just because of this.

Are you ******* joking? He clearly didn't understand the consequences, and if you've seen the chatlogs I've been sent, you'd see that he was just way over his head. The second Rossi approached him, he instantly started trying to atone for what he did + didn't lie at all. The second he was questioned, he came clean.

You're allowed to have your own opinion, and that's fine -- that's something I respect. But if you guys go out of your way to pursue this more by contacting his team, I will be the first one to stand up and defend him, because it's very bloody obvious that he didn't know what he was doing was as bad as it is.

I'd support a ban (on him) for sc2sea tournaments, nothing more.

Quick Comments

	FaDeHellfyre:	punishment sounds reasonable
	HuT:	this guy gets it
	MooZfY:
	DM.MCZ.Polaris:
	breadfan:

[Peleus]

Originally Posted by tgun

He didn't understand the magnitude of what he was doing.

Do you actually understand what he was ******* saying when we logged on (myself, rossi, jaz, rev) to talk to him?

He wanted to quit progaming because of this. Legit quit progaming, just because of this.

Are you ******* joking? He clearly didn't understand the consequences, and if you've seen the chatlogs I've been sent, you'd see that he was just way over his head. The second Rossi approached him, he instantly started trying to atone for what he did + didn't lie at all. The second he was questioned, he came clean.

Firstly, obvioulsy I can't appreciate any 'mitigating' factors that may of occurred, or perhaps the appreciation by him for what he has done through chats with you, rossi etc considering I wasn't part of the conversation, my opinions are based off the info I have available to me.

Originally Posted by tgun

You're allowed to have your own opinion, and that's fine -- that's something I respect. But if you guys go out of your way to pursue this more by contacting his team, I will be the first one to stand up and defend him, because it's very bloody obvious that he didn't know what he was doing was as bad as it is.

I'd support a ban (on him) for sc2sea tournaments, nothing more.

Do I want to ruin his progaming career and force him to retire over it? No, although it's closer than you might suspect (probably feel different tomorrow). I absolutely despise cheaters, imagine your feelings for them tgun and times that by 2. If I wanted to ruin his career I'd post this to TL, clearly I haven't.

I was actually writing my reply when you posted, and my "are you serious" was more a direct response to being told that he "didn't deceive anyone". When it happened to be posted after yours I'm sure "Are you serious" could be seen as disagreeing you as well when I didn't even know you had posted.

Point being I'd like to see some punishment, such as lifetime bans from anything sc2sea ever runs again. Removal from team / retiring? Undecided / leaning towards probably not.

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Zealo:

pretty much exactly how i feel

[FaMe]

Originally Posted by Peleus

OMFG ARE YOU SERIOUS!?

He is every single bit to blame as Chobo is. Every single person that was knocked out of a tourny because of this guy was robbed of chances to perform, opportunities at prize money, and opportunities to qualify for different things.

I don't think I can ever understand this communities feelings towards the word "sorry" mitigating and changing so much damage that was caused.

Edit: I'm ok with tgun thinking I'm a giant cockmunch because imo "sorry" doesn't cut it.

Yes, very serious. I never actually said that his apology should/would change anything, and I agree with you that it sucks for the people who were knocked out and missed out on opportunities, but he never really had to come to this community and apologise, therefore it's certainly a nice thing for him to do.
And I don't think he is EVERY bit to blame as Chobo is. We have no idea of what Chobo was telling him, ie. things to write in to chat, channels to join, or whether he even knew himself what was going on (obviously from what he's said he had some idea, but did he know what the matches were actually for? doubtful)

[crAzerk]

Thanks for posting!

+ [Click this only if you are bored] +

I pasted what Jazbaz wrote above into Google translate, here's the translation:

"If people sea server Haeoetim activities like a If you do not want I will retire immediately and incorrectly folded haeteuni Do not have one regret, no skills"

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Baldie:

Sounds legit

[TheGentleman]

Apology accepted, thank you for taking the time to write your apology.

[FaDeHellfyre]

I think it shouldn't be up to us, but up to his team to decide his punishment.

[CHoBo(kice)]

If you want someone to punish, I am right here.

[Peleus]

Originally Posted by AsGCHoBo

If you want someone to punish, I am right here.

Oh believe me, you are BOTH to blame.

[TABiggun]

Originally Posted by AsGCHoBo

If you want someone to punish, I am right here.

Kinky







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[NvJazBas]

Time to study.

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syfMiley:

word