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ACLPro in conjunction with Blizzard ANZ is pleased to reveal the final details for the World Championship Series: Australia & Oceania.

For all the details, visit www.ACLPro.com.au

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	nirvAnA:	OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
	ACL Beware:	<3
	Maynarde:	HUGE
	Cyanide:	omg tastosis!!!
	FSBenAD:	:D Awesome
	ToRSmotPokingFish:	OMG EXCITED!!!!!!!!
	SLCN.Kez:	My heart literally skipped a beat
	FSNeiloGD:	Good bye money, hello Sydney!
	eCKo`Switch:	wowowowowowowowow
	Highlander:	I have lost all of my shit. All of it. *Starts checking flights.*
	Zealo:	♥
	YurickHarmon:	Amazing pull, awesome job organisers!
	syfChadMann:	hnnnnnnnnnggggggggg -
	ToRMaverick:	O.........M...........G.......!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
	FaMe:	Shut up and take my money!
	Ruski:	Its......beautiful

[BAD.BiGbiRd]

Holyfucking shit omg omg omg omg omg!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! **** i need to practice so damn much holyshitfuck dujfbhsdwngkwngrljna;wregnerlh WOW!!!!!!

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ToRMaverick:

what what in in the **** ****!!!!!

[Stoosh]

Absolutely amazing, can't wait to attend this

[Shinkz]

Awesome! Great news!

[Flamga]

I will make them sign my breasts... ♥ This is going to be awesome!!

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MooZfY:

you go girl!

[x5.NotoriouS]

holy shit

so pumped to watch

[TAriiChard]

Holy ******* shit.....

[iMSystem]

inb4 Minimat rages!

This is gonna be super SICK!

[nirvAnA]

Tastetosis!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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inFeZa:

tastosis

[x5_dot]

Omgomgomgomgomgomgomg

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breadfan:

Om Gom Gom Gom Gom Gom g

[|Erasmus|]

Originally Posted by FlashFlamga

I will make them sign my breasts... ♥ This is going to be awesome!!

get in line, big boy...

But seriously, seriously hyped to get to meet tastosis at this event.

[inFeZa]

I GET TO OBSERVE FOR THE BEST OF THE BEST

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	AxS.Sorathez:	I agree with this!
	asdfSchnitzel:	hahahaha
	breadfan:	are you really obsing? omg omg troll time. also nice
	syfPhoenix:	so much win! :P

[TAEdgE]

Seriously feel so lucky to be apart of this!

[Sephyre]

Biggest eSport event in Australia to date?

[TheGentleman]

Where is the like system when you need it?

[Asrathiel]

....wow O_o

What's the go with tickets?

[x5_dot]

"Blizzard are awesome and are bringing this event to Australia for free! Alcohol will be available for you to purchase at the event. Due to the liquor license of the venue we cannot allow minors into the premesis. Please note if you are under 18 years of age you will not be allowed into the venue! The high quality Stream is of course open for all ages to watch."

Sucks to u-18s!

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	Asrathiel:	Even for players? Wow that's sad :(
	ToRSmotPokingFish:	well that sucks balls :( i really wanted to go
	Fourby:	LLLLLLLLLLOLLLLL THIS IS GONNNA BE AWESOMEEEE
	inFeZa:	get those fakies ready
	asdfSchnitzel:	dot so mean to people like me :(
	RVLiveR:	NUU that's totally retarded T_T

[TAEaeron]

That is massive; should bring in heaps of viewers and get some Australian pro's known.
Massive boost to an already well setup and run tournament; will be glued to the stream if I cannot get up there myself.

[EsKy]

Where is the venue? Just so I can start queing now.

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iMSystem:

http://www.aclpro.com.au/blizzard2012/#venue

[DUCKVILLELOL]

Time to book them flights up, aus hwaiting

[MezjE]

OMFG DNlndwElLofneaolgvnafolnel DLFNREAKGN;G;OHNGIO;nskfkdsLFSd
100% flying up now.

[Maynarde]

So pumped for this Very lucky to be a part of it!!

[Dox]

No-one has an excuse not to be there now.

I've also added TL, Twitter, Facebook and Reddit links to the OP. If you truly want this event to be noticed and watched by the entire world, make accounts on at least 3 of those sites and BUMP the threads, SHARE the pages, RETWEET or UPVOTE. Let's make this HUGE.

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ToRSmotPokingFish:

unless your under 18 :(

[ACL Beware]

Announcement on ACL: http://www.aclpro.com.au/forums/topi...ers-announced/

[MezjE]

Originally Posted by Dox

No-one has an excuse not to be there now.

I've also added TL, Twitter, Facebook and Reddit links to the OP. If you truly want this event to be noticed and watched by the entire world, make accounts on at least 3 of those sites and BUMP the threads, SHARE the pages, RETWEET or UPVOTE. Let's make this HUGE.

I noticed, very well done

Is it actually 18+ what about the U18 players?

[doble]

ggggeeeeettttt hhhhyyyypppeeeeee

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AsylumofSouls:

I approve of this celebration.

[ROCCAT_Savior]

fuken awesome

[iMSystem]

Hope Tastosis enjoys ZvZ :P

[Arlibie]

I've been waiting for something like this, this is going to be AWESOME. Definitely flying down for this...

[VB_Blake]

My mind...you blew it. HOLY CRAP this is awesome

[Intoccabile19]

My friends and I have already pretty much booked flights and accom.....now I just need to get it past the missus

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Maynarde:

The greatest of all eSports hurdles?

[Asrathiel]

Originally Posted by Intoccabile19

now I just need to get it past the missus

Now I just need to figure out what I'm doing with my kids.... :/

[Intoccabile19]

Originally Posted by Asrathiel

Now I just need to figure out what I'm doing with my kids.... :/

isnt that what the grand parents are for?

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Asrathiel:

They'll be in Canada!

[Shieldz]

wtf amazing LOL

[Maynarde]

Nice landing page! http://www.aclpro.com.au/blizzard2012/

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x5_dot:

mmm those dreads.. :P

[ACL Beware]

Some might say TOO handsome

[Intoccabile19]

Originally Posted by Intoccabile19

They'll be in Canada!

haha thats uncanny......my parents litterally only just came back from a trip to Canada....

[Snx.FigJig]

Must. Book. Flights.

[x5_dot]

So.. am I allowed to take photos at this event? And how close can I get to the players/action?

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	Dox:	please do!
	inFeZa:	GIVE THIS ONE A PRESS PASS!
	ACL VaNzR:	Still don't have my ACL photos I asked PiG for. Does that help answer your question :(

[ThatGuyDoMo]

Well!

That solves the question of flying down to watch this!

[fray`Alpha]

Any Doubt I had about Flying down for the event is now gone. >.< Ill most definitly be there for this most amazing event... GO GO LIGHT. GO TASTOSIS. GO HD AND PAINUSER!!

PS.. Asra get out the cake >.<

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Asrathiel:

CAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAKE

[pja]

Fuakkkkk so exciteddd!!!!

[x5_dot]

Originally Posted by dot89

please do!

What I mean is, this event is obviously THE SHIET compared to anything else we've seen. We even have to buy tickets! I don't know how much access we as spectators get to the areas at the event. In case this is limited, can I have access to all areas to take photos?

[NDG.Stitch]

holy balls did u guys check the intro video out. THAT SHIT IS SICKKK

GOGO AUSTRALIAAAAA.

btw what's the song name in the intro vid :P

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Dox:

See the youtube comments

[everRampager]

DSAJN!@#HN!#ZXAKSD

I NEVER ever EVER thought this would happen. Holy shit. ACL, Blizzard, have all of my babies.

[Pandan]

Dot, there is a private players-only area for warm-up - but you being media get access to that. Being the significant other of a competitor probably also gets you those rights.

You'll be fine, dw

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	x5_dot:	yay :D i feel speshul
	ACL VaNzR:	What Craig has said here isn't quite right. Talk to me in person on Skype to confirm.

[FS.Kezz]

I'm so damn pumped for this!

[Dox]

Originally Posted by dot89

What I mean is, this event is obviously THE SHIET compared to anything else we've seen. We even have to buy tickets! I don't know how much access we as spectators get to the areas at the event. In case this is limited, can I have access to all areas to take photos?

The tickets are free, they're just there for seat allocation, or else people would be stealing eachothers chairs all the time. :P

And what Pandan said!

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	x5_dot:	thanks dox! just needed clarification :)
	ACL VaNzR:	Again. Also incorrect.

[inFeZa]

My body is not ready.

[SayfT]

wow! awesomesauce news! def going to go down there and watch this

[ToRSpartaz]

Whoally mother, massive credit to Blizzard and ACL reps this is THE event of events. You guys have done an amazing job and its HUGE for the community! You guus are amaIng!!

[Marek]

Definitely driving up with my friends and watching this!!

[Intoccabile19]

So when can we 'book' tickets for the 11/12th?

Edit: Don't worry saw the subscribe! Win for using mailchimp..

[Marek]

Originally Posted by Intoccabile19

So when can we 'book' tickets for the 11/12th?

23rd I believe ^

[Mayo]

Looks awesome

[Peleus]

This is awesome, definitely going to try and be there.

[tioN]

damn i want my ticket now ='( this is gonna be good =D

[AxSGRiM]

**** yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[ROOT`iaguz]

CALLED IT **** ALL YA'LL I ****** CALLED THAT SHiT!

[NOM]

Now I really want to walk to Sydney for this (money sucks )

[ToRSmotPokingFish]

OMG why cant I be 18 so jealous, hope you guys have fun

[Fourby]

Originally Posted by dot89

"Blizzard are awesome and are bringing this event to Australia for free! Alcohol will be available for you to purchase at the event. Due to the liquor license of the venue we cannot allow minors into the premesis. Please note if you are under 18 years of age you will not be allowed into the venue! The high quality Stream is of course open for all ages to watch."

Sucks to u-18s!

I bet it was Tasteless who insisted on alcohol being available, dat alco

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Intoccabile19:

remind me to thank that man!

[Maynarde]

Originally Posted by cRFourby

I bet it was Tasteless who insisted on alcohol being available, dat alco

Yes ... Tasteless ...

[SLCN.Kez]

holy ******* shit im so excited for this, killing myself i didnt qualify now! hollyyyy fucckiinnng shiiiiittttt theres absolutely no question if im coming down for this!

*edit*
Since it says they are casting the oceania finals does that mean itll be maynarde + whoever casting the Australian wcs and not tastosis etc?

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Dox:

a mixture of everyone throughout

[Minh]

Originally Posted by Dox

The tickets are free, they're just there for seat allocation, or else people would be stealing eachothers chairs all the time. :P

And what Pandan said!

Omg yes free tickets! More money for booze

How many tickets can we get in a group (so I would be able to sit next to my friends and stuff)?

[Intoccabile19]

WHOO HOO!!! missus says YES! Booking flights naoh!

[syfMiley]

Which one of you fellas wants to sit next to me

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	DUCKVILLELOL:	Only if you bring keanu
	MezjE:	KEANU PLS

[TAminimat]

I'm pretty jelly of you all

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Asrathiel:

Hugs! :(

[cruxSpoon]

Ok so now we got tasteosis to come down once...now to make sure they come down next year...

Also have to make sure i qualify next year 0.o

[ninja brett]

So excited for this event, also make sure you check the ACL page, because without vanz this wouldn't be possible http://bit.ly/PfyBW1

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	raycey:	Blizzard approached Dox and Dox approached ACL since ACL already has all the staff and equipment
	ACL VaNzR:	Yeah I didn't spend a week interstate tendering for it at all ;)

[eCKo`Switch]

Hnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnngggggggggggggggggg

[stephen_drewz]

I wonder how this would be to travel alone too.. lol

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Asrathiel:

there'll be other ppl coming from Perth... then come say hi to everyone and you won't be alone any more!!

[ZiggyD]

I will be heading to NSW to 'visit my parents' right around that time methinks

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inFeZa:

HI MOM HI DAD... BYE! ~

[EveTechtron]

holy shit, my life is complete....................

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	ROOTPetraeus:	18+ son ;)
	|Erasmus|:	he's a competitor pet, he'll be allowed in... :/

[Highlander]

Going to be sorting leave passes tonight, sorting flights ASAP.

Just gotta round up less organised nerds...

[Fourby]

Not gonna lie, was pretty bummed when we couldnt find the bar at the racecourse in melbourne hahaha

[Mayo]

Originally Posted by cRFourby

Not gonna lie, was pretty bummed when we couldnt find the bar at the racecourse in melbourne hahaha

Maynarde, PiG, Dot, Sunset, Kiara (my mrs), Infeza and more all went to a bar on Sunday after ACL.

[iMSystem]

Originally Posted by Mayo

Maynarde, PiG, Dot, Sunset, Kiara (my mrs), Infeza and more all went to a bar on Sunday after ACL.

Not to mention the TA train that went hunting for a pub

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SLCN.Kez:

dat rep train.

[Fourby]

Originally Posted by Mayo

Maynarde, PiG, Dot, Sunset, Kiara (my mrs), Infeza and more all went to a bar on Sunday after ACL.

Yeh I was talking about AT the venue

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	Norksman:	Pretty sure we were locked away from the bar at the venue :\
	raycey:	Indeed, it was behind a curtain :)

[Stallion]

really sad i got 4th now this is gona be sick congrats everyone who makes it and gl

[inFeZa]

I want to have a drink with tastosis. : ) Didn't really get that chance when i met them in korea, but hopefully they'll want to do stuff after!

[bswhunter]

Ahhh soo good.
Hope to see some people I vaguely know there. Gunna be awesome

[FsDronesInJail]

woulda really liked to go to this.... but none of my friends play starcraft, they are such losers

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	nirvAnA:	Time to make them SC2SEA friends!!!!!!!!!
	Asrathiel:	Make new friends
	Hydroid:	Come along anyway! The SC2 community is really friendly.
	Dox:	Introduce yourself to us and you'll make 300+ more friends
	VB_Blake:	yeah man, we can have a NSW PD team crew :D
	syfChadMann:	I... I thought we were friends.. :-(

[Hydroid]

I have to be there for this! :O

[FSNiseH]

Damn, I so wish this was being held in melbourne . Either way, should be a sweet event, can't wait to watch tastosis cast!

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Dox:

I demand the Battle Toaster comes to Sydney!

[VB_WhiplashJC]

Siiiickkkk.

What's the capacity of the venue? I don't want to be sitting on Jinx's shoulders but I will if I have to.

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syfChadMann:

330 seated.. + standing room

[VoxMSI.Rogue]

i want to die.

fml

what i wouldn't give to go to this

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AxS.Sorathez:

How about money for the travel there iTroll

[Demosthenes]

Yaaaay!
I'm 100% there.
This is going to be freaking EPIC!

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Dox:

awesome!

[AxS.Sorathez]

Going to this makes up for not being able to make the GSTL barcraft

[sRAnti]

This is AWESOME!!

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	EveTechtron:	i approve of this message
	syfMiley:	ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[Stallion]

really wish i lived in aussie right now this is so sick T_T

[syfChadMann]

Originally Posted by xGKingStallion

really wish i lived in aussie right now this is so sick T_T

So glad I live in Australia right now..




Why not fly over guys?.. biggest thing to happen to eSports in SEA.

[ETL.ViTaL]

Why it no be in Melbourne
On the other hand: Sickerness thing ever !!! :P

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raycey:

Thanks to Melbourne everyone got sick

[xGKingdelete]

omg.. this better be happening again next year

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ROOTPetraeus:

this is it for WoL

[TAXanT]

Absolutely sick news. Sadly can't make it to Sydney but I'ma be watching this shit ALL WEEKEND.

Well done to all people involved for getting this happening.

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inFeZa:

For those melbournites - trying to get a barcraft going for you guys :)

[Eddie]

This is going to be amazing!

Really want to go, shall have to see how much leave i have...

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inFeZa:

barcraft melb ;)

[ACL inmaniac]

F**K YEAH!

I can't wait for this, it's going to be amazing!

[Peleus]

I'm definitely not complaining but I'm honestly surprised there isn't a token charge for the tickets. I can't imagine anyone having an issue paying something tiny like $10 for tickets.

[Syk]

Oh wow, this event is going to be so sick!
Tastetosis !

[Bluejay]

HUGE! I'm considering flying over from Auckland for this now!

[raycey]

I'm going woooo for me! Doesn't mean a thing to me but I'll be there beside Dox anyway supporting him as usual. So glad drinks will be available, totally going to make what would have been 3 days of utter boredom into something much more interesting.

[Akilos]

I wanna fly there to see it sooo bad now T.T dang you uni for keeping me busy!!!!!

[cRSenSei]

Going to try make it down to watch + get insanely f*cked up.

GONNA B' HUGE YO

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	TAriiChard:	<3
	iM yang:	yes pls andrew<3

[FaDeAudacity]

i saw on the website that it said you must be 18 to attend, is there any way that i can get in, im only 15? if i miss this i will be so sad

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Demosthenes:

I don't think so mate. =(

[Mox]

I am so so so excited! Aus eSports hwaiting! KEEN!

[syfMiley]

Originally Posted by cRSenSei

Going to try make it down to watch + get insanely f*cked up.

GONNA B' HUGE YO

Would love to get messy with you buddy!

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syfChadMann:

agreed

[Pigzy]

If anyone wants to start a car pool to go from Melbourne up to Sydney to go to the National Star2 finals (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/view...opic_id=353793) Please please either send a PM to
me on TL, or talk to me on battle.net. real ID friend request me at Pigzyf5@hotmail.com.
I'm 19 years old, i don't own a car. I am willing to pay my share of petrol and what not. And I should make good car company (I'm fine with shutting the **** up after a few mine of ranting about how im going to get my shit signed by a bunch of people.

So please, if you are intended to go, invite me along otherwise i may have to end up spending the money I don't have on a plan ticket. :O

[inFeZa]

Originally Posted by Pigzy

If anyone wants to start a car pool to go from Melbourne up to Sydney to go to the National Star2 finals (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/view...opic_id=353793) Please please either send a PM to
me on TL, or talk to me on battle.net. real ID friend request me at Pigzyf5@hotmail.com.
I'm 19 years old, i don't own a car. I am willing to pay my share of petrol and what not. And I should make good car company (I'm fine with shutting the **** up after a few mine of ranting about how im going to get my shit signed by a bunch of people.

So please, if you are intended to go, invite me along otherwise i may have to end up spending the money I don't have on a plan ticket. :O

TBH It's cheaper to go by plane.

Well maybe if you have a SUPER fuel efficient car. The drive is 10~ hours and it's HELL! I've done it, and its so much easier flying.

Considering i do own a jeep, Fuel was ~ $350 Each way, Filled up 4 times both ways. Damn expensive!

Plane is about $100 Return maybe, and takes ~1 Hour.

Fly.

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	x5_dot:	checked today. $120 min tiger
	Demosthenes:	Driven from sydney to cairns before. You don't know the meaning of hell...
	nirvAnA:	Helpful!

[Pigzy]

well it cost more if you drive with one person, but with a few its cheaper

[Dox]

Originally Posted by FaDeAudacity

i saw on the website that it said you must be 18 to attend, is there any way that i can get in, im only 15? if i miss this i will be so sad

At this stage, I'm afraid it's looking very, very unlikely. It's a venue restriction, and nor we (ACL) or Blizzard can do anything about it. I'm so sorry.

EDIT: Participants are fine

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EveTechtron:

do i have any restrictions ?

[Fourby]

It would only be cheaper by car if u took 5 people XD, in wich case you would rather pay the extra like 50 dollars each to make the time difference

[SmirkToT]

this is sick,gogo tastosis

[ToR.Arnor]

HOLY CRAP! so devo i miss this

Nice work Nick and ACL Team ^_^

[Dox]

The reddit thread has fallen off page 1. But the tgun meme i made is still there. You guys know what to do!

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	iM tgun:	Post more tgun memes?
	Maynarde:	tgun meme's promoting WCS

[inFeZa]

Every day i wake up and am reminded of this.
Happy days until the event!

[Dox]

Update on 18+ restrictions: http://www.sc2sea.com/blogs/showentr...=5757#post5757

[sneak]

wonder how much this is gunna boost australian gaming with other countries.

[SleekDaElite]

better start saving

[Ruski]

I'm hoping to go to this, see how much it is going to cost me but really stoked to go.

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breadfan:

woooop

[syfChadMann]

Originally Posted by sneak

wonder how much this is gunna boost australian gaming with other countries.

How much has it boosted ZiktoMini's career?... hopefully it does something like that for some of the Aussie guys!!

[ETL.Santi]

i wanna go but dont want to pay hotel who wants to lend me their bed?

[MezjE]

Originally Posted by Santi

i wanna go but dont want to pay hotel who wants to lend me their bed?

There is a thread where everyone is planning to get a sort of 'share house' thing.

ww.sc2sea.com/showthread.php?t=5326

[Omny]

I believe somebody mentioned this earlier but i didnt see it answered. I figure this is likely a silly question and trust something is organised, but will there be an intuitive way to book a ticket for me and my partner at the same time thereby assuring they are situated next to one another?

Cheers Dox and everybody else involved in SEA ESports for all your hard work from the start, without it none of us would have this chance to be graced by the presence of such legends. Without your collective passion for the game being noticed by international organisations this could of never happened, you all deserve a moment of silence on this momentous occasion!





Edit ChadMann: I believe i saw Dox saying something about the ticket system being there so people wouldnt be accidently taking peoples seats all the time?

[syfChadMann]

Originally Posted by Omny

I believe somebody mentioned this earlier but i didnt see it answered. I figure this is likely a silly question and trust something is organised, but will there be an intuitive way to book a ticket for me and my partner at the same time thereby assuring they are situated next to one another?

I *think* the booked ticket system - is just that there are 330 passes to the seating area.. once your there - sit where ever you can.

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Asrathiel:

I thought there were going to be allocated seat numbers. I could be wrong.

[inFeZa]

Hmm yeah i can actually see some seat stealing maybe happening...

Maybe allocated seats would prevent this, if it is sit wherever because you reserved a seat?

[ACL VaNzR]

Stage Teaser:

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Asrathiel:

Hehehe those look like Enterprise shuttlecraft

[kookielah]

This is where I lament just getting a power bill and not having enough money for fuel oh woe is me :P ah well have to save up for next year I guess

[Dox]

Tickets will be available at 9:00AM tomorrow - don't miss out!
http://www.aclpro.com.au/blizzard2012/

[x5_dot]

hope this doesn't sell out like a radiohead concert.... i've already been disappointed once this year

[FaDeBadger]

So how exactly are people who work a job without computer access supposed to get a ticket if they are released at 9am on a workday? o.O

[breadfan]

Originally Posted by FaDeBadger

So how exactly are people who work a job without computer access supposed to get a ticket if they are released at 9am on a workday? o.O

use your phone

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FaDeBadger:

If only it was that simple

[ACL Beware]

Keep in mind you need to get a ticket for Saturday AND Sunday if you want to attend both days: http://www.aclpro.com.au/blizzard2012/.

First in best dressed!

[nirvAnA]

Thanks Beware!!!!!!

Love how informative the ACL staff have been

[inFeZa]

Where do the casters sit?

[x5_dot]

Originally Posted by inFeZa

Where do the casters sit?

Would it be in the middle of the players' booths? Where the WCS sign is

Can't wait to take photos for this!

[Dox]

http://aclpro.com.au/blizzard2012/

Tickeeetsssssssss~

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NOM:

aww yeaa got dem ;D

[Shieldz]

wish i can come T.T

[ThatGuyDoMo]

Ggwp

tickets on both days!

[Dox]

Sunday tickets sold out~

[FvRphoneheha]

Tickets sold out 11 minutes after on sale.

YYYYYYEAHHHH

[Dox]

All tickets gone now!

[ToRSmotPokingFish]

so less that half an hour, glad i woke up early

[Shieldz]

lol wtf imba ticket sell

[x5_dot]

Glad I got my 4 tickets for both days!

See you all there

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syfChadMann:

Dot needs 4 seats?

[syfMiley]

Are you ******* serious?!

[Sephyre]

Damnit. Was in the process of moving house.

Rushed to work to get tickets but were all gone

[inFeZa]

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	ToRSmotPokingFish:	:D
	ACL Beware:	Hahahahahah <3
	FSDele:	nice!

[Hydroid]

Woo, I got tickets. See you all there on Sunday.

[Dox]

http://twitter.com/ACLPro/status/227179932273479680

[breadfan]

I forgot all about it this morning. It just so happened I opened sc2sea at 9:01am and was reminded. Lucky!

[Stoosh]

What a joke checked at 9:20 and they were all gone

[inFeZa]

After seeing that the tickets went so quickly i can positively confirm that this event is going to be CRAZY DAMN HUGE.

There's still standing room guys! Just means that you can drink and watch from the bar!

[ACL VaNzR]

Originally Posted by inFeZa

After seeing that the tickets went so quickly i can positively confirm that this event is going to be CRAZY DAMN HUGE.

There's still standing room guys! Just means that you can drink and watch from the bar!

Don't be getting ahead of yourself Infeza, additional standing room will be managed very closely for media, special guests & a handful of giveaways.

I'm sorry to say it guys, but don't assume there are a lot more tickets - as there are not (sadly).

As Dox pointed out from my tweet, some volunteer roles will go public sometime soon.

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breadfan:

I think most people shared Infeza's understanding. Maybe something to note for next time re: clarity of communication?

[|Erasmus|]

Originally Posted by ACL VaNzR

Don't be getting ahead of yourself Infeza, additional standing room will be managed very closely for media, special guests & a handful of giveaways..

Can you elaborate on what this means if we didn't get tickets?

And in future, it would be nice if subscribing to the event notified you of tickets being available as it advertises to do so. I didn't stress about remembering the time/date as I assumed I would receive updates, but this didn't occur...

[jbhewitt]

Heya Erasmus - we did send out email on Saturday evening with the heads up of tickets going on sale Monday morning and the process required.

It might be in your spam unfortunately.

Should have looked like this: http://us2.campaign-archive1.com/?u=...&id=8963503d11

[ACL VaNzR]

An email was sent to all registered subscribers on Saturday night, before ticketing information was confirmed. It would have read like this:

Hi %insertname%,

We hope you're as excited as we are with the Blizzard Starcraft 2 tournament only weeks away!

Just reminding you that tickets are available from next Monday (23rd of July) at 9am. There are only 300 tickets available for each day and are served on a strictly first come first served basis.

This means to secure your seat you will need to make sure you're ready come 9am next Monday!

There are two tickets, one for Saturday and one for Sunday. If you're keen to come to both sessions you'll have to sign up for both days.

Saturday Australia Nationals: https://register.eventarc.com/event/...ustrali…
Sunday Oceania Finals: https://register.eventarc.com/event/...ceania-…

Regards,
The Australian Starcraft 2 Team

Remember that some giveaways will occur in coming weeks!

[DUCKVILLELOL]

I can confirm that I got one. Unfortunate Erasmus

[|Erasmus|]

Originally Posted by DUCKVILLELOL

I can confirm that I got one. Unfortunate Erasmus

Yeah, I also got one on Saturday... I'm just pretty sure I remember it saying that you'd be notified when they went on sale. I was hoping that would be the case... just mentioning it as some feedback for next time if there's going to be a system like that, it should be very clear what it is supposed to be for... obviously I misinterpreted this statement and was relying on it too much.

Regardless, with regards to implying that standing room is going to be managed 'very closely', what does this imply for people who don't have a ticket (and don't win one). Will there be entry on the day?

[iMSystem]

Hope i'll be considered as a special guest :<

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Dox:

very special

[ACL VaNzR]

The system we use will allow us to determine exactly who is in the venue by 'checking in'. If for some reason some people with tickets are not in the venue by a set time, we will look at allowing a handful of people in to replace those 'no shows'. I wouldn't rely on this at all however, as we cannot make guarantees for other people's behaviour.

If you'd like to talk to me about volunteering in anyway, please send me a PM.

[|Erasmus|]

T_________________________________________________ _____T

So where did all the misinformation about standing room come from then? I didn't believe it was absolutely 100% necessary to get an allocated seat to be able to attend...

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FaDeBadger:

If Dot wasn't a baller I'd be in the same situation T_T

[x5_dot]

Are you saying that people without seats can only rely on being a volunteer to guarantee entry to the venue?

[syfMiley]

Originally Posted by iMSystem

Hope i'll be considered as a special guest :<

Good luck with that mate :>

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iMSystem:

<3

[Loach]

I hope for the sake of Australian esports that ur trolling vanzr...

[inFeZa]

Hrm! well then.

I know people who plan on flying to watch from melb, and couldn't get a ticket. :/

[iMSystem]

Either this is a giant miscommunication or a giant punch in the balls.

I'll be watching from home now

[ACL VaNzR]

Originally Posted by |Erasmus|

T_________________________________________________ _____T

So where did all the misinformation about standing room come from then? I didn't believe it was absolutely 100% necessary to get an allocated seat to be able to attend...

Nowhere. Infeza is not organising this tournament or tickets. There are 2 people that you should look for responses from: JB Hewitt & myself.

Both this page: http://www.aclpro.com.au/blizzard2012/ and this page (which was emailed to registered users) http://us2.campaign-archive1.com/?u=...&id=8963503d11 mention the word 'TICKETS'. There is no mention of standing room in the venue.

I do apologise that not everyone will be able to see this event live, but this was always going to be the case once Tastosis were announced.

[inFeZa]

I don't actually know anything so don't take any advice from me, i just heard that there are tickets for seats, not entry.

[|Erasmus|]

I know it's not you guys saying it, but I'm just incredibly pissed off at all the members of the community who claim to have some knowledge of what's going on insisting that we'll be fine with standing room.

It's disgusting that they'd make claims on your behalf with clearly no knowledge of what is going on. And I'm now even more disappointed because I didn't think I needed to take getting a ticket so seriously.

[UHF]

Ouch, a LOT of people are going to be disappointed after already organising flights & accommodation.

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Omny:

Thats me :) Trying to decide wether to go for Saturday and stand outside sunday.. nice.

[ACL VaNzR]

I would ask that anyone who has booked travel arrangements from interstate please PM me.

Thanks.

[|Erasmus|]

So will I get shafted even more with all the 'spare' giveaway tickets going to people who are travelling?

[inFeZa]

Someone go hire a tent and an inflatable screen & Projector and put it outside and watch if you can't get in!
Or organise a barcraft for it? The next best thing for people who can't get in i guess?

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ToRSmotPokingFish:

this idea!

[Loach]

VERY disappointed...

Even if ACL did not say that there wouldn't be any general admission for standing room.. it should have been stated that way...

This really is a gigantic kick in the nuts to all of SEA... THE BIGGEST TOURNAMENT IN AUSTRALIAN ESPORTS HISTORY!! THE BEST CASTERS IN THE WORLD!! btw.. 300 tickets for the quickest on ONE morning.. if u cant get to a computer on a MONDAY MORNING because of.. oh i dunno.. WORK?! too bad u can't come unless u volunteer?

Are you going to have 100's of volunteers? Is that where it's coming from? you need volunteers? because I'm sure loads of people would be willing to help out here and there even if they had their admission sorted and everything..

This is so unfair to so many people

[breadfan]

Originally Posted by inFeZa

I don't actually know anything so don't take any advice from me, i just heard that there are tickets for seats, not entry.

I think just about everyone was under the impression there'd be standing room for GA, and that ticket reservation was just for seats. It's mentioned in comments throughout this thread, on blogs throughout the site, etc. It would be most unusual if everyone thought this way based on no information from a credible source.

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	x5_dot:	and if that info was wrong it should have been corrected
	Asrathiel:	I was definitely under that impression

[ACL VaNzR]

Originally Posted by Loach

VERY disappointed...

Even if ACL did not say that there wouldn't be any general admission for standing room.. it should have been stated that way...

"There are only 300 tickets available for each day and are served on a strictly first come first served basis."

This entire process has been managed and discussed with Blizzard. Once Tastosis signed on we have done our best to try and accommodate people wherever we could but knew this would be an issue and have tried to be as clear & fair about it to everyone.

The volunteer thing is just a small opportunity for some people to help out. Nobody is being forced to volunteer. Bear in mind that we are a volunteer organisation anyway.

[inFeZa]

Originally Posted by iMSystem

Clever move by ACL to force people to volunteer so they don't need to pay for more hands...

I don't know what volunteer jobs are actually available and what you'll be doing, but if someone joins to help setup and pack up and you get entry into the venue than that's awesome.
Helping out eSports by assisting the event AND you get to watch AND you'll probably spend some time/meet with the illustrious tastosis. but i don't know, just my opinion.

So i don't see a problem with this. I think There is a LOT of set up going to be needed

TL;DR Volunteering is good. do it

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	iMSystem:	Not saying it's bad. I do a **** ton of volunteering for SEA stuff. Just saying that it is a clever move :)
	breadfan:	You, sir, are correct. Also handsome.

[|Erasmus|]

Originally Posted by ACL VaNzR

"There are only 300 tickets available for each day and are served on a strictly first come first served basis."

This entire process has been managed and discussed with Blizzard. Once Tastosis signed on we have done our best to try and accommodate people wherever we could but knew this would be an issue and have tried to be as clear & fair about it to everyone.

The volunteer thing is just a small opportunity for some people to help out. Nobody is being forced to volunteer. Bear in mind that we are a volunteer organisation anyway.

I'm happy to volunteer for quite a few things if I know what volunteer jobs you're looking for...

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	syfChadMann:	Volunteer does not mean pick and choose your job.. just get in and help if you want to volunteer. -_-
	Bash:	@ chad i think its more that not everyone is capable of all jobs, better to know what you're in for etc.

[PiG]

I think the small number of people flying interstate will be able to come to accomodations.

I think some people missed out cos they have work or whatever. It sucks that this is the case but it's kindof like a concert in that there's no fair way to stagger the tickets its just a first come first serve.

Just want everyone to stay calm, we all want a piece of Tastosis but lets not ruin it by going "all /r starcraft" as duckville says. Vanz's job is to make it clear that he can't guarantee everyone a seat whilst trying to accomodate as many as possible. Hold your horses and if you just spend $1000 on flights and accomodation send him a PM and see if you can help out in a volunteer role or something of the sort to guarantee your entry.

Shame we can't get more people in but most of the other nations WCS have had what looked like seating for only 100-200 observers so we're somewhat lucky. Unfortunately this is a FREE event and so Blizzard can't just rent out a giant stadium, even their pockets aren't that deep.

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	breadfan:	I don't think it's necessarily a small number of people flying. I wouldn't be surprised if it's half or even more.
	TAEaeron:	lol big stadium would be awesome :) can only dream of the days eSports holds that power

[|Erasmus|]

Dox did actually say there was standing room on System's podcast last week... I believe this is where the confusion came from as he is generally seen as an official ACL source.

Just more annoying than anything to have conflicting sources of information.

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Cyanide:

should have also addressed some comments in this thread as well re standing room

[inFeZa]

Originally Posted by PiG

I think some people missed out cos they have work or whatever. It sucks that this is the case but it's kindof like a concert in that there's no fair way to stagger the tickets its just a first come first serve.

So can we see tickets on eBay? T_T

[Dox]

Originally Posted by |Erasmus|

Dox did actually say there was standing room on System's podcast last week...

System said, "I assume" and I said "I think there's standing room as well" with a follow up comment saying, "I'll dig it up and post it tomorrow."

[DUCKVILLELOL]

Originally Posted by inFeZa

I don't know what volunteer jobs are actually available and what you'll be doing, but if someone joins to help setup and pack up and you get entry into the venue than that's awesome.
Helping out eSports by assisting the event AND you get to watch AND you'll probably spend some time/meet with the illustrious tastosis. but i don't know, just my opinion.

So i don't see a problem with this. I think There is a LOT of set up going to be needed

TL;DR Volunteering is good. do it

This is something that resonates quite a lot with me and I totally agree - I have a friend who volunteered for NASL/WCS as a game supervisor - got to hang out with Huk all day, along with other pros and big names like that. Got in to the after-party as well, along with a bunch of other things that made me mega jelly. So helping out even in a small amount is not only great for the event, but great for esports and yourself possibly too.

I'm hoping that something can be worked out with all of this; perhaps a reflex-action barcraft can be setup somewhere, I really would love to say that my fellow aussies were able to set aside some discontent about it all (which I totally understand don't get me wrong) and not be "all r/starcraft" and get crazy about it. Lets just try and figure out a way so that everyone can have a fun environment to watch the event in. It perhaps won't be as amazing as being at the venue; but if you're all passionate fans I'm sure a lot of fun can be had regardless of the situation.

[SLCN.Kez]

Dunno why people are so surprised that if they didn't get a ticket then they magically can't go. It's unfortunate and it sucks, but it's no one else' fault but your own.

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x5_dot:

people thought there was standing room

[|Erasmus|]

Originally Posted by Dox

System said, "I assume" and I said "I think there's standing room as well" with a follow up comment saying, "I'll dig it up and post it tomorrow."

I didn't see any post saying 'actually, there is no standing room', and a bunch of people continuing to talk about additional space.

I'm just saying, if I'd known there was nothing without a ticket I'd have carved it into my ******* arm to make sure I remembered so I could go see Tastosis...

[Flamga]

So you are saying a LOT of people have booked flights over, and if they were unable to get a ticket like this then they will not be allowed into the venue?

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iMSystem:

Vanz said if you had already booked flights and such PM him abd

[Dox]

Originally Posted by FlashFlamga

So you are saying a LOT of people have booked flights over, and if they were unable to get a ticket like this then they will not be allowed into the venue?

That's actually the complete opposite of what VaNzR said.

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	EveTechtron:	are you the batman of esports?
	NOM:	http://youtu.be/U6MPNzIA44s

[VB_WhiplashJC]

Only 300 tickets -> you guys fucked up.

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inFeZa:

not the way to view it

[Dox]

Originally Posted by |Erasmus|

I didn't see any post saying 'actually, there is no standing room', and a bunch of people continuing to talk about additional space.

I'm just saying, if I'd known there was nothing without a ticket I'd have carved it into my ******* arm to make sure I remembered so I could go see Tastosis...

Yep. As it turned out I followed up the U18 thing instead. Place 100% of your blame on me, I can take it.

[Dox]

Originally Posted by VB_WhiplashJC

Only 300 tickets -> you guys fucked up.

We can't exactly offer more tickets than the venue can hold.

[TACeeSerps]

Saturday 11am: Doors Open! Ticket holders have express entry through to the viewing area.
*
This is taken directly from the ACL website. So what does express entry mean if no one else is allowed in?
Do we get to skip the volunteer and media line? Does it mean that we get express entry over the casters and players?
*
I don't mean to be rude about it, but the attitude of "tough shit" actually offended me.

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Asrathiel:

Hmm, 'Express Entry' wording IS somewhat misleading there

[iMSystem]

Originally Posted by FlashFlamga

So you are saying a LOT of people have booked flights over, and if they were unable to get a ticket like this then they will not be allowed into the venue?

Comment thing bugged out.

Vanz said that if you have booked flights and such and missed out on getting a ticket just send him a PM and he could perhaps sort something out.

Not sure what it means but best to PM and find out

[Flamga]

Originally Posted by Dox

That's actually the complete opposite of what VaNzR said.

Ok now that I read again I do apologise, next question is when do we get notification if we managed to register, as I managed the saturday however havent recieved anything in my emails.

[Shinkz]

Originally Posted by FlashFlamga

Ok now that I read again I do apologise, next question is when do we get notification if we managed to register, as I managed the saturday however havent recieved anything in my emails.

I received all my emails within about 10 minutes of registration. Perhaps check junk mail?

[breadfan]

Originally Posted by |Erasmus|

I didn't see any post saying 'actually, there is no standing room', and a bunch of people continuing to talk about additional space.

I'm just saying, if I'd known there was nothing without a ticket I'd have carved it into my ******* arm to make sure I remembered so I could go see Tastosis...

This is a big point. There are people out there who were under the impression that even if they didn't get a ticket, worst case scenario they could still turn up on the day and at least get in. People do act differently in my case. As I said, I luckily logged on to SC2SEA at just the right moment. I didn't bother to set an alarm or anything - why bother? I understood entry was pretty much guaranteed for at least standing areas.

Of course, if you say "venue capacity 300 maximum, that is it, no standing area" I put an alarm in my phone, in gmail, I spraypaint it on my walls and get it tattooed on my forehead, and arrange to head in to work later so that I don't forget to be online ready to smash that register button. Especially having already paid for my airline tickets. I know lots of others who also already paid to fly, but haven't managed any.

It's not to say blame lies solely with the ACL guys - I mean, everyone had the same understanding and same warning, but it is definitely a lesson to be learned. This is a freak of an event, and unfortunately there is this one hiccup with the communication of information. I have to say I actually think Vanzr has responded pretty well to the whole thing, and kudos to the guy for trying to make sure things are right with people who bought tickets. At the end of the day, he and the ACL management could just say "look, sorry guys, this is how it is" and not do anything. But they are going out of their way to make things right the best way possible.

Everyone has a right to feel frustrated, and people shouldn't be slagged off for venting this. It's not fair to just say "it's your own fault" or potentially far worse. But at the same time, a little bit of love to the guys who are copping the venting, taking it in stride, and trying to turn any issues around

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	Flamga:	Exactly how I feel thanks! :)
	iM MaFia:	summed it up well
	Asrathiel:	Well said :)
	FvRphoneheha:	Y

[iMSystem]

Originally Posted by VB_WhiplashJC

Only 300 tickets -> you guys fucked up.

Haha, while I have no affiation with ACL and any thoughts on how WCS was organized but I assume they booked the venue before the international casters were organized, in which case they are unable to change venues etc.

I can assure you if ACL had organized the casters before finalizing the venue, they would have changed places.

[VB_WhiplashJC]

Originally Posted by Dox

We can't exactly offer more tickets than the venue can hold.

Sorry.

The selected venue is too small -> only 300 tickets -> you guys fucked up.

[breadfan]

Originally Posted by iMSystem

Haha, while I have no affiation with ACL and any thoughts on how WCS was organized but I assume they booked the venue before the international casters were organized, in which case they are unable to change venues etc.

I can assure you if ACL had organized the casters before finalizing the venue, they would have changed places.

Clearly, we need to blame blizzard for bringing Tastosis to Australia. Bastards.

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iMSystem:

Blizzard hurting eSports

[Flamga]

Originally Posted by Shinkz

I received all my emails within about 10 minutes of registration. Perhaps check junk mail?

Nothing :/ well regardless I have my name on the registration so I am hoping at least I can get a fix on that, I hope to god I spelt my email wrong lol

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	breadfan:	Mine took quite a while to come through. Mail server might have been hammered? idk
	x5_dot:	didn't you get to a page that allowed you to print anyway?

[VB_WhiplashJC]

How was registration done? Am I going to be offered a ticket for $50 from someone who claimed 50 of them, or is the ticket for the purchaser only and ID required?

[breadfan]

Originally Posted by VB_WhiplashJC

How was registration done? Am I going to be offered a ticket for $50 from someone who claimed 50 of them, or is the ticket for the purchaser only and ID required?

There was no registration, I don't know if there was anything to stop people checking out multiple times. But, you could only reserve 2 at a time, and it records names. So potentially, someone sat there for 15 minutes, bought 2 at a time making up a fake name each time. Realistically... I doubt it.

[|Erasmus|]

Originally Posted by Dox

Yep. As it turned out I followed up the U18 thing instead. Place 100% of your blame on me, I can take it.

I try not to sound like a dick when I say this, but when you get on System's podcast with a big label saying "@ACLDox" and say "Yeah, there's standing room, I'll follow up on how much", my first instinct is to believe that you are an official source of information regarding an ACL run event.

All the other information is somewhat ambiguous, getting express entry, guaranteed seats etc. NOTHING implied that without a ticket you're left out in the cold until Vanzr posted in this thread saying so after the tickets are handed out.

You know how pumped I was about this event, yelling at everyone to go keep bumping the WCS thread on TL to try and get more views. You probably realise how disappointed I am to find out this information is wrong and I have to hope I get accepted as a volunteer to get in (and they'll more than likely prioritize people who say they've booked flights and hotels over me for that, sadly).

I don't view this as 100% your fault, but I will say that you have a lot of trust from a lot of people here, and are seen as an official and generally reliable source of information for these events. If you get it wrong, most of the time people will just believe you, as has happened here.

[AusBox]

Originally Posted by iMSystem

Clever move by ACL to force people to volunteer so they don't need to pay for more hands...

Hey, I'm going to quickly tell you about how pissed off I am that you can say that.

You don't know me. There's only a handful of people on this site that know me, but I lurk the forums and follow the scene.

At ACL Sydney, I gave my entire weekend to help out. You know what I got for my efforts? Nothing! Did I expect anything? Of course not, I did it because I love ACL and seeing hundreds enjoy an event that I am a part of is an awesome feeling.

Getting to Sydney was easy enough as I live there, but I did the same thing for ACL Melbourne. I'm only a uni student so I don't have much money to throw around, but I scraped together $600-700 to pay for the trip to spend the entire weekend setting up, bouncing between different roles, managing streams + PCs, packing up etc. Again, I got nothing in return, except I left with an awesome memory of the experience and a huge feeling of satisfaction as again, hundreds of people packed in to the event and had (IMO) an awesome time.

Now, no-one forced me to volunteer. I have staffed twice at ACL events and am now putting in time between events. I'm also going to be staff at WCS for almost the entire weekend. I have not and probably never will receive any reward for my efforts, but I don't expect one.

Reading that shit that you posted just makes me angry that I put in a huge effort and people can still be hugely unappreciative.

Edit: Just to clarify this is entirely my own opinion and thoughts, and does not represent ACL in any way.

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	Loach:	whether ur pissed off or not - this is not a way to respond.. I don't agree with either side
	VB_WhiplashJC:	He's joking mate
	Cyanide:	regardless, no need for name calling
	Flamga:	In respones to System I agree, however also with loach I dont want this to turn into a rage thread :(
	breadfan:	This is a fair statement, but as an ACL guy, maybe recognise System was quite frustrated when he made this joke.
	iM tgun:	WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSH

[Snx.Mufasa]

Rofl... already got people trying to sell their tickets.

WP.

edit. Was just a friend posting someones text they made. Could just be a troll.

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	breadfan:	where?
	x5_dot:	who?
	syfMiley:	wtf

[Mayo]

Everyone "assumed" that there was a standing room it seems.

Should have straight out asked then I guess?

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	breadfan:	I think it was actually said somewhere. Why else would EVERYONE think the same way?
	mGGDrGooSe:	It was asked during systems podcast, clearly we never got an answer

[Flamga]

Originally Posted by Mayo

Everyone "assumed" that there was a standing room it seems.

Should have straight out asked then I guess?

I honestly just figure the event area would be big enough for a bit more of a capacity, but as Mayo says, if you assume you make an ass out of you and me (stolen haha :P )

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	breadfan:	Assuming makes and ass out of U and Ming. Who the hell is Ming????
	ROOTPetraeus:	some asian

[pja]

If anyone is selling please inbox me... greedy

[SLCN.Kez]

You know what they say about assume...

*edit* Did you miss the part where he says I'm not sure I'll confirm tomorrow? And if you're so excited and pumped why not just book your ticket anyway?

Edit 2* You bastard flamga ps. are you comin wcs? youre like the last person I havnt met yet!

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	Flamga:	I stole the thunder :P
	|Erasmus|:	Trusting someone with ACL in front of their name is assuming... :O
	NOM:	+1 for Dox NOT CLARIFYING. Stop throwing shit at him.

[Dox]

Originally Posted by VB_WhiplashJC

Sorry.

The selected venue is too small -> only 300 tickets -> you guys fucked up.

The venue (see original post in April) was locked in long before Tastosis. We only received an influx of people suddenly deciding to attend after Tastosis were announced. Prior to that, people weren't really interested, and I'm certain we would not have filled up the venue.

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	Flamga:	Maybe earlier ticket sales then? I was booked to come down well before it. I suppose that is my biggest issue
	mGGDrGooSe:	The majority of flow would have come late anyway. You know how people are.

[JoFritzMD]

Damn these day-long standing strength legs. If only I had've been more dedicated to wanting to rest them I might've woken up in time.

[Dox]

Originally Posted by FlashFlamga

Nothing :/ well regardless I have my name on the registration so I am hoping at least I can get a fix on that, I hope to god I spelt my email wrong lol

As soon as you finished ordering the ticket, you would have been prompted to print it out! Either way, the e-mail will appear sooner or later.

[UHF]

I too was one of the people under the impression that there was standing room available - it was pretty much thrown around as common knowledge. I feel absolutely terrible as I even passed on that incorrect knowledge at one point. I also feel that there is probably someone more deserving or someone traveling from a further distance than I am that should probably have tickets over myself

If Dox needs a wingman, I'll gladly put my hand up.

As a side note, the two images below are what lead me to believe there was a general admittance.

[Flamga]

Originally Posted by Dox

As soon as you finished ordering the ticket, you would have been prompted to print it out! Either way, the e-mail will appear sooner or later.

I do not believe I was and regardless I was at work, I am unable to print there in the first place

[toasti0]

Only assumption I made was that no ticket no entry.

I even went to the lengths of setting up text blocks before registration had started. So each key stroke auto pasted in my details like address name etc. The main reasons why I thought this was necessary was because i knew it would sell out in minutes because its the largest cyber games event ever held in Australia.

The ONLY criticism I would have to say about the process is I grantee a lot of legitimate people missed out on tickets because a lot of illegitimate people took way too many tickets than they needed and that this registration event should of had a $2 or even $5 fee to weed out scalpers spamming tickets they weren't gonna use. Because of this now there will probably either be sold tickets on eBay or empty seats not filled at the event.

After sales of the tickets for $2 or $5 they should of took the $ and added it to the prize money for the winner of the tournament. Which would of added $1500($5 ticket x 300) or used the money for other great things. The money isn't important its just that the fee would of stopped a lot of scalpers stealing tickets. That's my 2c keep in mind I got my tickets I was one of the lucky ones.

[Peleus]

WTF No standing room?!

It was thrown around so often by multiple people that the tickets were purely for reserved seating, there would still be general admission for people who are happy to stand. It was clearly the understanding by the majority of people about the event as can be seen in this thread, and it was even said by Dox on the podcast. Why didn't someone from ACL "officially" clarify when it was being said repeatedly that it was purely for reserved seating not for admission?

So disappointed I can't go now, especially disappointed that the biggest esports tournament in Australian history wasn't planned to accommodate more than 300 people, wtf.

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JoFritzMD:

I agree with this 100%. When everyone is saying there's standing room why didn't someone in the know clarify this?

[Dox]

Originally Posted by |Erasmus|

I try not to sound like a dick when I say this, but when you get on System's podcast with a big label saying "@ACLDox" and say "Yeah, there's standing room, I'll follow up on how much", my first instinct is to believe that you are an official source of information regarding an ACL run event.

All the other information is somewhat ambiguous, getting express entry, guaranteed seats etc. NOTHING implied that without a ticket you're left out in the cold until Vanzr posted in this thread saying so after the tickets are handed out.

You know how pumped I was about this event, yelling at everyone to go keep bumping the WCS thread on TL to try and get more views. You probably realise how disappointed I am to find out this information is wrong and I have to hope I get accepted as a volunteer to get in (and they'll more than likely prioritize people who say they've booked flights and hotels over me for that, sadly).

I don't view this as 100% your fault, but I will say that you have a lot of trust from a lot of people here, and are seen as an official and generally reliable source of information for these events. If you get it wrong, most of the time people will just believe you, as has happened here.

You're quoting me on saying things I never said, but if doing so makes you feel better, than I'm glad I can be of help to you.

I don't think you appreciate that I'm in the same boat here. I never checked up on the standing room because I put more urgency on the U18 issue. So it's news to me as well.

[iMSystem]

Ok let me clear the air.

Yes I was pissed when I wrote that message and I know that no one who 'works' for ACL gets paid. So if you're offended by it, sorry. But I am just as offended in regards to tickets and standing area. Which is already being discussed and won't need me to talk about it.

Secondly, I think it's funny how people are upset at my post because I don't want to volunteer to help. I just want to point out that I volunteer the **** out of everything I do. I cast tournaments, run tournaments, stream tournaments, I have my podcast, I am now doing the Talk Corner for Tt. All of this I DON'T get paid for and have NEVER asked for any payment in return. The 'income' I get is ads from streaming which is at best 20-30 dollars a month.

To have all this covered, I need good quality internet ($90 / month) premium xsplit ($40) registered version of fraps ($40), premium skype ($10 / month) not to mention money I fork out to improve stream quality for the viewers (Hardware upgrades etc.) And let's not tall about the time I spend setting up for streams (Graphics, documentation, what have you)

And I'll be blunt, I only get a thank you for streaming, and 2 or 3 people have actually said that appreciate what I do. Let it be clear I'm not expecting a thanks everytime I cast or stream, and I don't expect the entire community to be greatful of what I do.

But when I want to go to an event that I HAVE NO AFFILIATION with and actually let someone else do shit and this time, so I can just sit and not worry about a single thing and just watch some ******* Starcraft, I voice my opinion and then get a shitstorm of people telling me to **** off volunteer for once in my life as it helps Esports grow. Hopefully you can see why I am a little pissed off.

One thing to note with Volunteering is that, it is Volunteering. You can do it if you please, no one is forcing you to do so, and if you choose not to, there is no backlash.


I don't know how to end this rant so that's it


@Chadmann: I was never going to get tickets. I was fine with standing and was going to let other people sit as I would be moving around most of the day anyway.

@Rogue: I'm not going to stop doing what I love. I actually have so much fun building graphics, streaming and casting. Hence why I am pouring so much into it. But I also like a break once in a while. Let someone else take the reigns while I sit back and enjoy the ride.

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	ToRSpookToR:	*salute*
	syfChadMann:	should have got up at 9am then.
	VoxMSI.Rogue:	well if its such an imposition just dont do it?

[inFeZa]

Originally Posted by toasti0

Because of this now there will probably either be sold tickets on eBay or empty seats not filled at the event.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOK6WXb4700#t=2m25s

[NOM]

PROBLEM SOLVED.
1. More ******* space for viewers.
2. Tasteless would ******* love his first trip to Australia.
3. The stream will ******* love it.
4. ******* good for AUS/NZ e-sports.
5. It looks ******* awesome.

Or could just barcraft it up.

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	inFeZa:	shotgun top
	Baldie:	Rookie error feza obviously shotgun the woman just looking from the bottom

[Dox]

Originally Posted by iMSystem

Ok let me clear the air.

Yes I was pissed when I wrote that message and I know that no one who 'works' for ACL gets paid. So if you're offended by it, sorry. But I am just as offended in regards to tickets and standing area. Which is already being discussed and won't need me to talk about it.

Secondly, I think it's funny how people are upset at my post because I don't want to volunteer to help. I just want to point out that I volunteer the **** out of everything I do. I cast tournaments, run tournaments, stream tournaments, I have my podcast, I am now doing the Talk Corner for Tt. All of this I DON'T get paid for and have NEVER asked for any payment in return. The 'income' I get is ads from streaming which is at best 20-30 dollars a month.

To have all this covered, I need good quality internet ($90 / month) premium xsplit ($40) registered version of fraps ($40), premium skype ($10 / month) not to mention money I fork out to improve stream quality for the viewers (Hardware upgrades etc.) And let's not tall about the time I spend setting up for streams (Graphics, documentation, what have you)

And I'll be blunt, I only get a thank you for streaming, and 2 or 3 people have actually said that appreciate what I do. Let it be clear I'm not expecting a thanks everytime I cast or stream, and I don't expect the entire community to be greatful of what I do.

But when I want to go to an event that I HAVE NO AFFILIATION with and actually let someone else do shit and this time, so I can just sit and not worry about a single thing and just watch some ******* Starcraft, I voice my opinion and then get a shitstorm of people telling me to **** off volunteer for once in my life as it helps Esports grow. Hopefully you can see why I am a little pissed off.

I don't know how to end this rant so that's it

I don't think a bunch of people told you to "**** off and volunteer for once in your life", but I really don't think now is the appropriate time for "me, me, me", either.

[Dox]

Originally Posted by toasti0

Because of this now there will probably either be sold tickets on eBay or empty seats not filled at the event.

Each ticket that was ordered is attached to an e-mail address and a name. I suspect people who intend on doing something like this will have used the same e-mail address for all their orders, so it's very unlikely they'll get away with it.

[Dox]

Originally Posted by FlashFlamga

I do not believe I was and regardless I was at work, I am unable to print there in the first place

You could have saved the page and e-mailed it to yourself. :P It's just like ordering movie or concert tickets! But nonetheless, the e-mail will come. Just saying, when it comes to stuff like this, if you want to be super-certain, there are measures you can take.

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Flamga:

This irks me, but again this goes back to assumptions so lets not go there lol

[Mayo]

Barcraft sounds like a good idea..

APL, do it!

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inFeZa:

+1 I suggested this a bit earlier. a good Plan B maybe?

[iMSystem]

Originally Posted by Dox

I don't think a bunch of people told you to "**** off and volunteer for once in your life", but I really don't think now is the appropriate time for "me, me, me", either.

Agreed. I'm not wanting to make it a me time and I never want to, I am just validating my anger.

[|Erasmus|]

Originally Posted by Dox

You're quoting me on saying things I never said, but if doing so makes you feel better, than I'm glad I can be of help to you.

I don't think you appreciate that I'm in the same boat here. I never checked up on the standing room because I put more urgency on the U18 issue. So it's news to me as well.

You clearly said there was standing room. You said you'd clarify numbers. That's all I'm quoting you on... Feel free to point out how this is quoting you on something you didn't say, if you'd like.

I'm just disappointed because coming from ACLDox I assumed this was official, confirmed information and you just needed to look up the numbers you didn't have on you.

Maybe I should have been more careful either way, but I'm just giving some feedback here: People believe what @ACLDox says about ACL events (go figure). If you aren't 100% sure that you're correct, better off just not saying anything.

[toasti0]

Originally Posted by Dox

Each ticket that was ordered is attached to an e-mail address and a name. I suspect people who intend on doing something like this will have used the same e-mail address for all their orders, so it's very unlikely they'll get away with it.

When the ticket gets presented at the door what happens? Do they check peoples ID's to make sure the name is correct and the same as the ticket?

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breadfan:

There would not be any reason to allow people to get 2 if so.

[syfChadMann]

Everyone stop bitching.. omfg - you are not making it any better.

If you missed out, you missed out - deal with it.. that is life..
If you are flying interstate then there might be something they can do for you - and that is all.. why is everyone bitching and whining?..

sure, there are no more tickets - why do you get constructive about it?.. perhaps another room could be hired at the ATP for a big screen and extra seating - so you can watch from the venue... perhaps a door charge should be in place (to both main venue and standing room venue) to cover this cost...? or go set up a barcraft nearby.

Ehhh.. you make me sad some times SEA.. :'(

EDIT: I didn't get tickets, I've already spoken to Vanz a few days ago about helping out - so if that gets me in then great - otherwise I'll enjoy a weekend in Sydney and help organise a barcraft - but I'm not making any negative shit about missing out.. that doesn't help.. Instead I'll help out or try and do something constructive so I don't miss out.

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	SLCN.Kez:	Couldn't have said it better myself
	NOM:	+1 for decency and commonsence
	x5_dot:	wonder what you'd say if you missed out
	FaDeBadger:	What Dot said
	iM tgun:	"Everyone stop bitching"? No. Hell no.

[Dox]

Originally Posted by |Erasmus|

You clearly said there was standing room. You said you'd clarify numbers. That's all I'm quoting you on... Feel free to point out how this is quoting you on something you didn't say, if you'd like.

I'm just disappointed because coming from ACLDox I assumed this was official, confirmed information and you just needed to look up the numbers you didn't have on you.

Maybe I should have been more careful either way, but I'm just giving some feedback here: People believe what @ACLDox says about ACL events (go figure). If you aren't 100% sure that you're correct, better off just not saying anything.

I quoted myself on exactly what was said in that conversation. You're putting words in my mouth.

What more do you want from me? Do you want to burn me at the stake like Orb? Do you want me to step down or something? Where are you going with all this?

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NOM:

FUS ROH DAH!

[syfMiley]

Should of given tickets to people who WOULD of gone before tastosis was announced.
Tbh I'm not even unrustled the slightest by having them there, I just want to hang out with people who are actually part of the community and can respect the games played on a super saiyan 5 level.
300 seats, ACL pls
edit: stfu erasmus

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	SLCN.Kez:	LOL
	NOM:	SEXY ANZ PLAYERS > TASTOSIS
	inFeZa:	you're a trooper. you can sit on my lap
	Flamga:	same thing for me, planned months ahead to go to this, i wanted this regardless of Tastosis
	JoFritzMD:	All I wanted to see was Miles sexy smile. This is all I wanted!!

[Dox]

Originally Posted by toasti0

When the ticket gets presented at the door what happens? Do they check peoples ID's to make sure the name is correct and the same as the ticket?

I'd say there's a good chance of that.

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breadfan:

Both my tickets have my name on it. So I doubt it - otherwise how does my friend I'm with get in??

[Mayo]

All of America can't go to MLG, thats why they have Barcraft!

I'll say it again.. Barcraft!
ACL should talk to APL and setup a Barcraft!

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DUCKVILLELOL:

Are you saying there should be a barcraft? ;)

[SLCN.Kez]

Im just going to say one last thing before I'm out of this thread as life is to short to read this stuff and it makes me feel way to drained. When something happens not to your liking, please show respect in how you approach constructive criticism, and that once you have voiced your opinion, let that be it. Now, a lot of people have voiced their opinion respectively, but then once the admins have tried to answer your questions/calms/fears/anger don't keep retorting with other things he said/she said. The amount of time/work/effort the ACL guys put into things is astonishing, they don't get paid for it, and they do it out of the goodness of their hearts. Venue only has room for 300? So ******* what, make sure you're one of the 300. This rant is a lil misguided, this thread is actually relatively tame I spose, but I've seen this kinda shit in e-sports for the last 6 years and people need to stop qqing so much once something doesn't go 100% as they expected.

[ETL.Santi]

So people from interstate get special treatment? lol

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	ROOTPetraeus:	"oh hey I booked flights...k thx for tickets"
	NOM:	Strippers!
	breadfan:	Well they do pay a lot more to attend.

[pja]

Agree ^ I don't know how to quick comment. Plus, I am willing to volunteer or even buy tickets

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syfCabracan:

It's the little speech bubble with black lines below the persons avatar.

[Dox]

The amount of times I've seen people say, "BOYCOTT WCS!!!!" in the last few hours is ******* disgusting. Like, one week you're all about growing eSports, and then the next week you want to set a flame to it.

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	iMSystem:	No one is going to boycott it. It's just anger filled comments
	NOM:	They're jelly because they can't be dragons.
	SLCN.Kez:	Agreed, dont worry dox we all still love you/acl/esports, theyre just mad
	breadfan:	Yeah this is true. I will give them benefit of the doubt and assume this to be bad jokes made in frustration.

[inFeZa]

Originally Posted by Dox

The amount of times I've seen people say, "BOYCOTT WCS!!!!" in the last few hours is ******* disgusting.

God damn wtf is wrong with people.

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SLCN.Kez:

+1232184213421321

[TACeeSerps]

So who do the ticket holders get express entry over if you aren't allowed in the venue without a ticket? That's the one thing I am struggling to understand at this point.

Express entry over GA standing room only I can understand, but that isn't happening. I also understand that there was some miscommunication and assumptions made along the way, but this is written on your website which leaves me even more confused.

Is it express entry over no entry at all?
Express entry to the bar? (I like this)
Express entry to climb over the shattered dreams and river of tears created by limited tickets?

Help me understand! (sorry, quiet day at work)

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	ToRVenom:	Cause it was explained poorly.
	ACL VaNzR:	If you don't have your ticket on you, you will need to check in by looking up your name. Printed ticket = quick scan.

[toasti0]

If the ticket holders don't show up than the people waiting outside will be let in i guess. So ticket holders get express entry over non ticket holders waiting outside in the cold.

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	Loach:	Well it's not EXPRESS entry over people that cannot enter......
	ToRVenom:	So people are to still fly in just for the offchance they will get in?

[syfMiley]

Originally Posted by toasti0

If the ticket holders don't show up than the people waiting outside will be let in i guess. So ticket holders get express entry over non ticket holders waiting outside in the cold.

It will not be cold for I will be there to brighten up your day, put some warmth in your heart.

[Flamga]

I doubt any of us want to boycott WCS, I guess you can say and expect that we will most likely be annoyed if we didnt get a ticket to this event. Its going to be awesome! I am sure that something will get sorted regardless, and yes Mayo a Barcraft will also be awesome .

I guess after today when we all have had time to de-stress we can work on a solution.

[toasti0]

Originally Posted by TAMiLes

It will not be cold for I will be there to brighten up your day, put some warmth in your heart.

Duffman??? Is it really you!?!?!

[Marek]

Originally Posted by toasti0

If the ticket holders don't show up than the people waiting outside will be let in i guess. So ticket holders get express entry over non ticket holders waiting outside in the cold.

But this event goes for roughly 12 hours each day...and I'm sure not everyone will want to get there at 11am. What's the cut-off time for people with tickets to get there? I don't think this is viable

[syfMiley]

Originally Posted by toasti0

Duffman??? Is it really you!?!?!

Oh yeah!

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Flamga:

Rainbows and Buttercups!!! ♥

[inFeZa]

Originally Posted by TAMiLes

Oh yeah!

omg i just spat my drink everywhere

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NOM:

was it duff?

[toasti0]

Originally Posted by Marek

But this event goes for roughly 12 hours each day...and I'm sure not everyone will want to get there at 11am. What's the cut-off time for people with tickets to get there? I don't think this is viable

Bring a chair lol Duffmans shouting, there's about 50 bars in a few block radius.

[JoFritzMD]

What if I'm the Personal Assistant to a player? I can't personally assist if i'm outside the venue.

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	Loach:	I will personally manage maynarde's hair
	breadfan:	Maybe you can apply to be tasteless's waterboy?

[Flamga]

Originally Posted by toasti0

Bring a chair lol Duffmans shouting, there's about 50 bars in a few block radius.

If we cannot bring ourselves to the starcraft then let us take ourselves to the BARCRAFT!!! We shall make them join us in the festivities and we shall drink them to the floor!!!

[Dox]

Originally Posted by JoFritzMD

What if I'm the Personal Assistant to a player? I can't personally assist if i'm outside the venue.

Personal Assistants in eSports? lol

[syfMiley]

Originally Posted by FlashFlamga

If we cannot bring ourselves to the starcraft then let us take ourselves to the BARCRAFT!!! We shall make them join us in the festivities and we shall drink them to the floor!!!

I'll provide a TA bootleg stream casted by all of TA filmed directly from our smartphones.
Technology ahoy!

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	Flamga:	Barcraft: An Australian Bootlet Adventure
	inFeZa:	TA COMMENT TRAIN ON THIS POST
	syfChadMann:	dat TA bootleg
	SLCN.Kez:	TOOTOOT
	ToRSpookToR:	******* TA ALWAYS CAUSING TROUBLE GOD

[Marek]

Originally Posted by FlashFlamga

If we cannot bring ourselves to the starcraft then let us take ourselves to the BARCRAFT!!! We shall make them join us in the festivities and we shall drink them to the floor!!!

Yeah buddy!

[TAminimat]

Originally Posted by TAMiLes

I'll provide a TA bootleg stream casted by all of TA filmed directly from our smartphones.
Technology ahoy!

Better than tastosis that is!

[JoFritzMD]

Originally Posted by Dox

Personal Assistants in eSports? lol

I'm trying to use my skillset to be help esports, omg stop killing esports dox.

[ROOT`iaguz]

Well **** wanted my brother to come watch me play. Balls.

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	NOM:	he can sit on your lap. :)
	breadfan:	How big is his beard?
	nirvAnA:	He can be your PA / beard trimmer

[AxSGRiM]

Originally Posted by iaguz

Well **** wanted my brother to come watch me play. Balls.

just make your brother play as you and then you can watch

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syfMiley:

next level

[iM MaFia]

wouldn't mind meeting an iaguz 2.0

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	syfChadMann:	lol
	nirvAnA:	omg m night shyamalan

[Sunset]

A lot of you have actually gone full retard, for lack of a better expression.

You know what? I missed out on tickets to see Tool a while back. I was sad as ****. I wanted to go so badly. My BROTHER got tickets. I got up early and set an alarm and went online and bam, no tickets left. All sold out. And I can guarantee you, I was mad as ****, but not to the stupid extent some of you are going to. Be mad, but don't blame organisers.

I was lucky enough to get tickets to WCS. I set my alarm and I got them.
It was all over Twitter you needed to book tickets.

I did not assume there was standing room and I watched the same ******* podcast as the rest of you.

The fact is a 300-seat venue is a stretch to fill without Tastosis - that's a sad reality in itself. I think organisers booking a 300-seat venue, considering they didn't know Tastosis would be able to come at the time, is a sound business decision.

Quite frankly, the reaction as a whole to this AMAZING THING THAT IS HAPPENING FOR US AS A COUNTRY is ******* embarrassing. It's all about egos and tantrums and god help us if Blizzard catches on that this is the reaction they get for contributing to something incredible for our community.

Just stop behaving like children for one second, think about what you say before you say it.
No-one should expect special treatment.
This is an amazing thing that is happening to us. Stop ruining it.

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	Dox:	+9001
	NOM:	+1 this
	breadfan:	Mostly great post, except you are wrong to call everyone who missed out on a ticket an idiot.
	JoFritzMD:	People aren't getting mad because they missed out, they're getting mad because they feel lied to.
	FaDeBadger:	Missed the point completely
	x5_dot:	^^ missed the point sunset
	|Erasmus|:	The point is we DIDN'T KNOW WE NEEDED TICKETS UNTIL THEY SOLD OUT...
	inFeZa:	LIVE TO WIN.
	Mayo:	ily, marry me?
	iMSystem:	Both sides of the party have legit reasons to be upset.

[eCKo`Switch]

Originally Posted by Sunset

I set my alarm and I got them because I am not an idiot.
It was all over Twitter you needed to book tickets.

Whether or not you set your alarm because you're "not an idiot", if 3000 people woke up early to get tickets, 2700 are still going without. It's all a bit of a shame really. Quite glad I never got around to booking flights.

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ToRVenom:

And the people who have?

[Sunset]

How have I missed the point? I said I watched the same podcast as you guys did and I never assumed standing room was an option. I heard the same stuff Dox said as you. I do not feel lied to. I do not feel like inadequate information was conveyed. It was conveyed, over and over, that tickets would need to be booked because of venue capacity. Tell me what I'm missing.

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	breadfan:	Threads, cbox posts, blogs where it was discussed for weeks.
	inFeZa:	^
	iMSystem:	Comparing events like Tool to ACL are two completly different things. Tool kniws

[Xormentor]

I found out about tasteless and artosis going to Sydney only yesterday, not until around 10am this morning I found out that tickets went on sale at 9am so I rushed to the site and found they were sold out and was REALLY bummed out.

I then saw a post from ACL on facebook saying for those who missed out they would be posting something soon. Naturally because of how much I want to go to this event I was watching the page like a hawk and saw this post and was really disgusted. Not only because of how un-fare it is as only 300 were available and wouldn’t even be a plausible option for someone living in another state (not sure if I would try getting it from the person or not if I lived in Sydney or not but that’s not the issue) or that eSports is trying to get a good name for itself and this shit is already happening at the first major thing we have in Australia.

ACL deleted the post in like a minute or so and I did have a feeling about it, I just think that this needs to be out there for people to know. I blacked out the name myself as I assume he might get a lot of upset messages through Facebook or something which I don’t think is helping anyone.

So whats everyone elses opinion on this? This is also my first post on SC2SEA 

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	nirvAnA:	thanks for sharing and welcome to our community! yea this needs to be stopped
	breadfan:	Unblock the name!

[toasti0]

two lessons learned so far

1. Assumptions make an arse out of u and me

For those who bought tickets and accom before getting tickets to the event.

2. Don't count your chickens before they hatch.

For everything else there's MasterCard.

[FaDeBadger]

Originally Posted by Sunset

How have I missed the point? I said I watched the same podcast as you guys did and I never assumed standing room was an option. I heard the same stuff Dox said as you. I do not feel lied to. I do not feel like inadequate information was conveyed. It was conveyed, over and over, that tickets would need to be booked because of venue capacity. Tell me what I'm missing.

People aren't angry they missed out on tickets, they are angry that they were led to believe (whether through miscommunication or their own wrong interpretation) that tickets were not essential to being able to spectate.

Whether you assumed standing room is an option or not is irrelevant when it seems that a large majority of sc2sea thought it was. It should have been made clear that it wasn't, that is the point you missed.

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	JoFritzMD:	this
	ToRVenom:	Brillient!

[x5_dot]

Sunset, I get that some people will think as you do, but a very large number of people 'believed' that there would be standing room, myself included. In fact, just like many others, I spread this 'belief' far and wide to make sure as many sc2 nerds came and watched wcs. So not only did I believe something incorrectly I passed it on to others who may have missed out because they didn't think lining up at 9am on the dot was an urgency.
Now I can't say for sure where I came to this belief that there would be 300 seats + standing room, but I know it was spread by many people, including Chadman and others. I did not watch the podcast.
I feel sorry for those who feel the miscommunication cost them a chance of seeing ******* TASTOSIS. I'm not even the biggest sc2 fan and I'm already excited.

Simply put. I feel their pain.

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	JoFritzMD:	and this
	Snx.Mufasa:	+1
	|Erasmus|:	this x10000000...
	breadfan:	FATALITY!!!!
	nirvAnA:	This!!!!
	syfChadMann:	IT'S ALL MY FAULT.. SORRY GUYS.. T_T

[inFeZa]

I think it's a great idea...



if you want to get seriously hurt at the venue.

EDIT: THIS POST GOT NINJA MOVED. IT WAS REGARDING THE SCALPING OF TICKETS FROM XORMENTORS POST. SOME GUY WAS GONNA SELL HIS SPARES FOR $30 OUTSIDE THE VENUE.

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	JoFritzMD:	what's a great idea infeza? Stop being so cryptic.
	Maynarde:	^ This is in response to Xormentors post I moved threads.

[Maynarde]

Merged Xormentors thread OP into this one along with inFeZa's post, glitched out there - sorry.

[MezjE]

Well this has been a disaster...

Looks like I won't be going then, thank god I didn't book flights. 9am was extremely hard to get to given school starts at 8:55 and assembly goes on to 9:10, I checked at the end of assembly and they were gone
Also the miscommunication regarding the age restrictions in hindsight was kind of bad, all I did was call up the place and they told me it was for all ages with wristbands, did anyone even contact the venue regarding the age limit after my blog?

Have fun to all who made it, I feel we have a lot to learn from this event, taking it in our stride as we continue to help eSports grow!

PS. If even one person with a ticket doesn't end up going the amount of disappoint will be over 9000.

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Dox:

"Under our licence we are not able to sell or provide alcohol whilst minors are on the premises." was the response

[ROOT`iaguz]

@ Mafia, wouldn't an iaguz 2.0 be a child of mine and not a brother? I have many brothers, where do the numbers end?! Though, amusingly, in the rare instances that my brother is playing a game with me or something he goes by the handle Zugai. If I can get him to WCS so there's no confusion just call him Josh.

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Dingobloo:

Coincidently you are Iaguz 3.0, i'll let you speculate which of your brothers is 1.0.

[NvRossi]

Originally Posted by TekMezjE

Also the miscommunication regarding the age restrictions in hindsight was kind of bad, all I did was call up the place and they told me it was for all ages with wristbands, did anyone even contact the venue regarding the age limit after my blog?

This was actually the result of people contacting the venue.

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breadfan:

Yeah, he's the one who contacted the venue.

[MezjE]

Originally Posted by NvRossi

This was actually the result of people contacting the venue.

Hmm, not sure what you're getting at with this comment but I agree...I think.

@Dox hmm that response is annoying and vague, I guess my e-mail was a bit more pushy for clarification due to the nature of the event. Doing a great job man, fight through the hate and make it the best event you can, keep up the good work.

[Termite]

ok so do you need a ticket to get in or can you stand and watch?? can tickets sold out in a matter of seconds!!!

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	MezjE:	Read the previous posts :P No ticket, no entry.
	Dingobloo:	You need a ticket.

[Crucius]

15 minutes...actually... so it wasnt THAT hard to get a ticket if you were there on time

[Baldie]

Originally Posted by Crucius

15 minutes...actually... so it wasnt THAT hard to get a ticket if you were there on time

Lol imagine how fast they would have gone if people 100% knew they had to get tickets for entry!

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|Erasmus|:

+1... i would have been F5ing like a maniac...

[nGenLight]

Oh noes, this is bad. =[

Come on let's find a solution!

Quick Comments

	JoFritzMD:	Protoss hero to the rescue!
	inFeZa:	this post is not from the ray i know. ..

[breadfan]

Originally Posted by ToRBaldie

Lol imagine how fast they would have gone if people 100% knew they had to get tickets for entry!

Imagine the forum rage that would have followed.

[jbhewitt]

Big day! Couple of notes... we will be sending out confirmation emails to all ticket holders in the next few weeks to confirm they're able to come to the event.

For those ticket holders who won't be able to come we will be re-issuing these tickets a week out from the event.

Just wanted to touch on scalping.

We will be checking tickets at the door to verify who you are.

Scalped tickets won't be allowed in.

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	x5_dot:	great!
	Baldie:	Bossmode
	ToRSmotPokingFish:	good!

[breadfan]

Originally Posted by jbhewitt

Big day! Couple of notes... we will be sending out confirmation emails to all ticket holders in the next few weeks to confirm they're able to come to the event.

For those ticket holders who won't be able to come we will be re-issuing these tickets a week out from the event.

Just wanted to touch on scalping.

We will be checking tickets at the door to verify who you are.

Scalped tickets won't be allowed in.

So what happens when I have reserved 2 tickets for myself and a friend - does he get in?

[syfChadMann]

Originally Posted by breadfan

So what happens when I have reserved 2 tickets for myself and a friend - does he get in?

I think when you confirm the tickets - you put down the names to the two people that will be using them..

[FaDeBadger]

Originally Posted by breadfan

So what happens when I have reserved 2 tickets for myself and a friend - does he get in?

I pm'd Dox about this and he said that as long as the person whose name is on the tickets is there to give authority it shouldn't be a problem.

[x5_dot]

Maybe we should let the ACL authorities clear this up too... just in case we make asses of ourselves

[jbhewitt]

Just need the person who got the original tickets to collect them. We'll be making a post later on detailing it all for ticket holders.

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FaDeBadger:

Thanks

[syfChadMann]

dot89:
wonder what you'd say if you missed out
FaDeBadger:
What Dot said

I just want to reply to these rep comments..

I didn't get tickets.. but do you see me complaining or carrying on?... -_-

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JoFritzMD:

but you're from Byron, you can't get mad if you're from byron.

[iM tgun]

So, I didn't know you needed tickets. My brother and girlfriend both miss out as far as I'm aware.

I won't say much now, hopefully there's a podcast on wednesday.

[BAD.BiGbiRd]

Ok i seemed to miss a giant shitstorm and i feel for everyone who missed out but i have a question. Do the players from the Aus final that don't get top 6 to qualify for the Oceania finals get a spot/ticket/seat/******* w/e for the Sunday event or do we get a 'Too bad sorry, no ticket no entry"??

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	jayaiwhy:	oh man, if that's the case xD
	DUCKVILLELOL:	I'm bringing my steel-toed shoes to drop-kick ya out if you lose. GOGOG BIGBIRD! ;)

[|Erasmus|]

Originally Posted by cR.ChadMann

dot89:
wonder what you'd say if you missed out
FaDeBadger:
What Dot said

I just want to reply to these rep comments..

I didn't get tickets.. but do you see me complaining or carrying on?... -_-

But did you know that you need one? I just didn't even try because I had stuff to do at work and believed the information from yourself and dox and others about how there was standing room available.

If I was there and tried to get one with everyone else, I'd be bummed, but it wouldn't be a big deal. I'm doing my best to still try and find a way to go, I'm just annoyed at the misinformation that was spread around, that's all.

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	ROOTPetraeus:	this is why no one likes you..
	syfChadMann:	LOL pet!.. >.<
	ToRSmotPokingFish:	pet so mean, eras <3

[Dox]

Originally Posted by |Erasmus|

But did you know that you need one? I just didn't even try because I had stuff to do at work and believed the information from yourself and dox and others about how there was standing room available.

If I was there and tried to get one with everyone else, I'd be bummed, but it wouldn't be a big deal. I'm doing my best to still try and find a way to go, I'm just annoyed at the misinformation that was spread around, that's all.

holy **** JUST SHUT UP ALREADY.

EDIT: Nearly 15 posts in this thread today and all of them deliver the same message. We get it. You're annoyed. You're disappointed. You can stop posting now.

Originally Posted by Erasmus

I'm just annoyed at the misinformation that was spread around, that's all. (source)

Originally Posted by Erasmus

I'm just disappointed... (source)

Originally Posted by Erasmus

You probably realise how disappointed I am... (source)

Originally Posted by Erasmus

I didn't see any post saying 'actually, there is no standing room', and a bunch of people continuing to talk about additional space.

I'm just saying, if I'd known there was nothing without a ticket I'd have carved it into my ******* arm to make sure I remembered so I could go see Tastosis... (source)

Originally Posted by Erasmus

Just more annoying than anything... (source)

Originally Posted by Erasmus

So will I get shafted even more with all the 'spare' giveaway tickets going to people who are travelling? (source)

Originally Posted by Erasmus

I'm just incredibly pissed off... (source)

Originally Posted by Erasmus

I'm now even more disappointed... (source)

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	iM tgun:	Telling people to shut up? I can understand frustration, but come on.
	FaDeBadger:	Stay calm bro, it's not entirely your fault
	iMSystem:	11/10
	syfChadMann:	lol at edit
	JoFritzMD:	wow, not even being subtle with his insults now
	Zepph:	At least I lol'd

[x5_dot]

Originally Posted by cR.ChadMann

I didn't get tickets.. but do you see me complaining or carrying on?... -_-

Kudos to you, sir

Disappointment is still disappointment. Some people don't express it as loudly as others. This was a miscommunication that was sorely lamented, nothing more. We all know the good work the folks at ACL do.

[inFeZa]

Originally Posted by TekBiGbiRd

Ok i seemed to miss a giant shitstorm and i feel for everyone who missed out but i have a question. Do the players from the Aus final that don't get top 6 to qualify for the Oceania finals get a spot/ticket/seat/******* w/e for the Sunday event or do we get a 'Too bad sorry, no ticket no entry"??

BETTER MAKE IT TO THE FINALS THEN.
heh

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	MezjE:	He better! :P
	TCPKerO:	Good motivation right?

[Hydroid]

Originally Posted by jbhewitt

Big day! Couple of notes... we will be sending out confirmation emails to all ticket holders in the next few weeks to confirm they're able to come to the event.

For those ticket holders who won't be able to come we will be re-issuing these tickets a week out from the event.

Just wanted to touch on scalping.

We will be checking tickets at the door to verify who you are.

Scalped tickets won't be allowed in.

I pre-organized with 3 friends that I'd get up early and grab 4 tickets for Sunday in hopes we could get seating together. I don't know exactly how seats are working in conjunciton with tickets, but is that likely to be a possibilty? I did manage to get the tickets, I just want to know if it's free-roam seating or assigned to each ticket.

[Baldie]

Alike anything I am sure both ACL staff/volunteers and Blizzard reps and the like, as well as the venue, are doing their best to accommodate the obvious overpopulation of interest in whatever means are legally acceptable.

I have nothing to add to this thread, in fact I don't really think anybody does except for the said people above who are the only people really with the current and future answers.

People are understandably going to be frustrated/concerned/disappointed and generally a lot will be in the wrong frame of mind to make constructive comments. It is important people aren't suppressed from expressing their thoughts as it all is valuable feedback however equally everything needs to be taken with a grain of salt.

I personally did not get tickets but that doesn't give me the right to take my anger out on someone else be it their fault or not. In the mean time it's best to brainstorm ideas of how to make it work as best as possible. Whether there is somewhere after the event where Tastosis can make an appearance even for 5 minutes so people at least get that experience if they miss out on the live event within the venue. Or whether a barcraft is the only feasible option. Or something else I haven't thought about in the 10 seconds I did then.

Regardless if you can get into the venue or not, it's going to be a great weekend for esports and SEA. Yes flying interstate myself won't be a cheap trip but if I can spend a weekend with friends I have met and will meet at WCS, and share the hype and energy that comes with such an event - even if it is only at an after party it is something that cannot be replaced elsewhere.

Dox, JB, everybody involved hats of to how far this has come so far - to even get Tastosis is something people are quick to forget. I trust you will do what you humanly can. Do know that amongst all this concern and frustration fundamentally there is a lot of love and appreciation for what you guys do.

See you on the other side.

EDIT: @Dox thankyou for clarifying props to them!

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Dox:

it was 100% PJ from blizzard who got tastosis on board

[TAEaeron]

I have gone though and read all of these posts; whilst I can understand the frustration of the people who missed out; I think everybody needs to remember that this is massive boost for Australian eSports.

All we need to do is show everybody that eSports is on the rise.
Everybody who missed out if there is a barcraft nearby go to it; if you are at home watch the stream or have a mini-barcraft with friends; there is so much that can be done to grow eSports you don't need to be at the event.

I will be glued to the stream for the 2 days (minus one commitment that I already had)

[toasti0]

Originally Posted by breadfan

Imagine the forum rage that would have followed.

Is this guy legit? he's made less posts than me.

[toasti0]

Quote: Big day! Couple of notes... we will be sending out confirmation emails to all ticket holders in the next few weeks to confirm they're able to come to the event.
For those ticket holders who won't be able to come we will be re-issuing these tickets a week out from the event.
Just wanted to touch on scalping.
We will be checking tickets at the door to verify who you are.
Scalped tickets won't be allowed in.



Is this guy legit he has less posts than me.

[doble]

JB is the streamteam's fearless leader and can be trusted

he is our optimus prime

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DUCKVILLELOL:

Or batman

[toasti0]

Well than that's very smart. I reckon there will be at least 50 more tickets up for grabs 1 week out for the event. As for registering names i don't know about that maybe 1 name the ticket purchaser is ok but not both names.

[PiG]

Originally Posted by toasti0

Quote: Big day! Couple of notes... we will be sending out confirmation emails to all ticket holders in the next few weeks to confirm they're able to come to the event.
For those ticket holders who won't be able to come we will be re-issuing these tickets a week out from the event.
Just wanted to touch on scalping.
We will be checking tickets at the door to verify who you are.
Scalped tickets won't be allowed in.



Is this guy legit he has less posts than me.

yes JB is one of the key reasons the ACL stream kicks so much ass, you can trust him

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inFeZa:

^^^^^^^^^^^

[doble]

actual picture of JB

[breadfan]

Originally Posted by toasti0

Is this guy legit? he's made less posts than me.

What do you mean?

[toasti0]

maynarde said: What're you talking about and why is it over 3 posts? If it's scalping, then abolish all notions of this being supported or discussed in this thread. I will infract as necessary.


The first post was a mistaken quote, i tried to edit the post but it made a 2nd post. the 3rd post is in response to the answer to my first post. The post is about all the illegitimate tickets that people would of picked up due to the free tickets available. e.g. many people would of registered and taken far more tickets than they actually needed. the 50 spare tickets is referring to my estimated guess of how many tickets people have take and will not use.. those 50 tickets will be up for grabs for people to pick up a week out before the event, this is referring to the post made by the streamteam guy.

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Maynarde:

Yeah it's my bad man I completely misread, ignore me

[syfChadMann]

Originally Posted by ToRBaldie

People are understandably going to be frustrated/concerned/disappointed and generally a lot will be in the wrong frame of mind to make constructive comments. It is important people aren't suppressed from expressing their thoughts as it all is valuable feedback however equally everything needs to be taken with a grain of salt.

I personally did not get tickets but that doesn't give me the right to take my anger out on someone else be it their fault or not. In the mean time it's best to brainstorm ideas of how to make it work as best as possible. Whether there is somewhere after the event where Tastosis can make an appearance even for 5 minutes so people at least get that experience if they miss out on the live event within the venue. Or whether a barcraft is the only feasible option. Or something else I haven't thought about in the 10 seconds I did then.

This guy.. this is what I'm getting at..
Pretty sure by now - everyone realises that there was some 'mis-information' bouncing around.. (I love it when people use my name here ..|.. ) But complaining about it isn't going to get ANYTHING done. If you missed out, man up - offer to help out at the event (VaNzR will now get 400 applications for volunteers - 300 will turn up and walk off and not actually help out, I bet). OR get active and organise something else.. be proactive and talk with ACL Staff about what can be done - say, a fan meet for Tastosis at a bar Saturday night and a barcraft over the weekend for those that missed out..
or offer to pay for entry and see if ATP can organise a larger room (I understand this might not be possible, but if a larger conference room at ATP isn't booked, is it possible to upgrade? and could those costs be passed onto the venue attendees? All pro-active solutions that I've messaged Vanz about. If something like that doesn't happen, then I'm glad I took the time to talk to Vanz about helping out last week and hope that I can contribute in order to attend and enjoy this event.

In short, don't sook about it - I missed out, I've booked interstate travel, I'm being proactive about making it work for me... and if not, oh-*******-well.. I'll have a nice weekend in Sydney with some mates, and hopefully catch up with you guys at a bar after the event.

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	ETL.ViTaL:	^
	Baldie:	We should have babies together

[ETL.ViTaL]

Hey guys at ACL I know you have probably already exhausted communication with the venue and stuff but atm everyone seems to be upset because of misinformation or that they isn't get tickets however not much constructive things have been said (Barcraft an option). Why don't you have no chairs at the venue or reduce the amount of chairs in exchange for standing space, I'm sure people wouldn't mind standing up for games and they can always go into the city to sit down and have lunch etc. In regards to the minor rule why not just not serve alcohol at the venue, like is it necessary to drink at the venue when you can just go outside to a pub down the road, this way minors wouldn't miss out on this great event.

Personally i can't make it to Sydney but i hope to all that go have a great time! I hope this ideas can be taken into consideration.....

peace !

[toasti0]

no offense to the younger people but drinking at the event actually makes it more attractive to a certain audience.

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TACeeSerps:

Who is more offended, young people? or us alcoholics?

[syfChadMann]

Originally Posted by ViTaL

why not just not serve alcohol at the venue

O_O
Also, standing for 6+ hours.. **** that.

[breadfan]

Originally Posted by cR.ChadMann

This guy.. this is what I'm getting at..
Pretty sure by now - everyone realises that there was some 'mis-information' bouncing around.. (I love it when people use my name here ..|.. ) But complaining about it isn't going to get ANYTHING done. If you missed out, man up - offer to help out at the event (VaNzR will now get 400 applications for volunteers - 300 will turn up and walk off and not actually help out, I bet). OR get active and organise something else.. be proactive and talk with ACL Staff about what can be done - say, a fan meet for Tastosis at a bar Saturday night and a barcraft over the weekend for those that missed out..
or offer to pay for entry and see if ATP can organise a larger room (I understand this might not be possible, but if a larger conference room at ATP isn't booked, is it possible to upgrade? and could those costs be passed onto the venue attendees? All pro-active solutions that I've messaged Vanz about. If something like that doesn't happen, then I'm glad I took the time to talk to Vanz about helping out last week and hope that I can contribute in order to attend and enjoy this event.

In short, don't sook about it - I missed out, I've booked interstate travel, I'm being proactive about making it work for me... and if not, oh-*******-well.. I'll have a nice weekend in Sydney with some mates, and hopefully catch up with you guys at a bar after the event.

First of all, I don't think blame about the misinformation was being laid on you. It was more a sense that "hey, a bunch of us clearly thought this way when it wasn't true". It definitely wasn't a personal shot at you, at least from the perspective of an impartial observer.

Secondly though, you are right on so many levels. Things have not turned to shit because the venue is over capacity and some people can't go. There are chances to get inside still, and there are possibilities for other things like you mentioned. Baldie and yourself are the only ones who have basically said "you know what, I'm going to Sydney for a StarCraft 2 event, and if I don't get in the doors, that doesn't matter, because I will still make it a killer time". This is really really good stuff from the two of you, I applaud you and you are setting wonderful examples.

Thing is, some people are just vocal about hardships moreso than others. In some cases, maybe people are being repetitive. In others, maybe people just want to express themselves. And I think that some people are being too hard on these people when they do so, not 9 hours after their issue. I hope after they get some rest, get time to put it all in perspective, people will realise that it's not the end of their world.

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PiG:

i like you

[inFeZa]

I think a barcraft should be organised.

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TAriiChard:

+1

[Fourby]

I missed out on tickets (( soo sad, very dissapointed, but you know what?


IM ******* excited that OUR BOYSS GONNA GET CASTED BY TASTOSIS BITCHES

stfu, get your popcorn out and support the motherfucking stream on the day, or im gonna find you and eat your favourite pet.


p.s im chinese, so I WILL eat your pet.

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	TAriiChard:	i will too
	inFeZa:	LOL
	VoxMSI.Rogue:	HAHAHAHAH omg

[Cordance]

A few questions.
Could the venue be enlarged second, third rooms (outside area with a projector and screen) at the current venue for a cost via the more tickets if so numbers and costs to make it viable.

Second if option one is impossible/economically nonviable. "Official" barcraft or other second venue with video link stream possible web cams back to original location. To try to keep the starcraft mayhem focused rather than at home on stream.

Final thoughts awesome work guys a packed ACL!!!!
If anything like this happens in the future, it might be nice if the ticket registration was more a reservation system I know there was under 250 people when I registered. Not that I had any chance to be around a computer at 9am so I probably still would have missed out.
Tickets being around before the announcements of casters would probably help vs backlash as seen in this thread. To be honest I probably wouldnt have gotten one or made a trip to Sydney for it at that point. There where many who would have and there would be no way for people who didnt to throw the blame at anyone ACL related...

PS if there is a second venu organized I would still be looking at a weekend to Sydney to party it up so long as it is organized in a way we could chill with some players etc.

[TADivinity]

Im extremely interested as to how many people would go if seating was unlimited.

What I've realised from this thread is that there are quite a number of lurkers in the community, including those not part of sc2sea.com

Lessons for the future no doubt.

All in all, bad luck that the venue choice had to come before Tastosis confirmation. No way around that.

An encouraging response for the scene though - regardless of positive/negative response

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Dox:

Thanks for the mature and logical response <3

[x5_dot]

In other news, it's Tasteless' birthday on Saturday August 11!

Lets get him a giant protoss cake sprinkled with probes everywhere

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	JoFritzMD:	I will join in the baking if there is a baking party for this
	Maynarde:	TUPPERWARE PARTY! Who's in? *raises hand*
	mGGNemesis:	nice :D
	ToRSmotPokingFish:	lets do this shit!
	Flamga:	AWESOME
	TADivinity:	and burrowed banelings underneath because **** protoss :)
	VB_Blake:	the banelings can explode cream!
	DUCKVILLELOL:	giant crowd happy bday singing at the event we have to
	NOM:	Must do this!

[inFeZa]

Originally Posted by dot89

In other news, it's Tasteless' birthday on Saturday August 11!

Lets get him a giant protoss cake sprinkled with probes everywhere

OMG! We need to get him something for his birthday

[syfChadMann]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=UU...ailpage#t=798s

Make InControl correct.

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	DUCKVILLELOL:	haha just tweeted that :D Such a truthful call from geoff D:
	TADivinity:	This now has to happen.

[HuT]

Welp, happy I got my tickets..

[VoxMSI.Rogue]

if i come i will bring him a toy like the bane i made for fenner ok dotty

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x5_dot:

okay! make it a koala-bane :D

[inFeZa]

Originally Posted by cr.chadmann

http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=uu...ailpage#t=798s

make incontrol correct.

omg lol
and suddently goat lust

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VoxMSI.Rogue:

LOL ****** goatlust

[Maynarde]

Originally Posted by cR.ChadMann

http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=UU...ailpage#t=798s

Make InControl correct.

IdrA: "I would like, do anything there for free, just to go down there to Australia that'd be really cool"

[VoxMSI.Rogue]

That means he would do you maynarde

he
would
do
you

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	Maynarde:	Not enough man
	ToRSmotPokingFish:	who wouldnt do maynarde though? dat hair!
	syfChadMann:	and he would do it.. for Free.
	doble:	angry idra rage manlove

[ToRSmotPokingFish]

Originally Posted by cR.ChadMann

http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=UU...ailpage#t=798s

Make InControl correct.

must play 'Land down under'! lol

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TAriiChard:

TA theme song

[ACL VaNzR]

Just a quick response to this, and a formal response via live stream or video tomorrow night.

Venue: This was organised back in March/April. I have been working on this project since January when we were asked to pitch for it. Juggling venue decisions is a HUGE undertaking in itself. After winning the project I sought out 6-7 venues in Sydney (including multiple site visits, photos & planning). There is a LOT to juggle. Between ACL & Blizzard, we had to negotiate the calendars of GSL, MLG, DreamHack and other nationals. This was all just to find dates! Then finding a suitable venue that can accommodate those dates among many other considerations is a huge battle.

There was no possible way to foresee that Tastosis would sign on (day before ACL Melbourne we found out). We were initially worried that we would get that kind of response, as we get approximately 30 spectators at an ACL event.

As I said, will make a formal response and ACTION PLAN for this situation by tomorrow evening.

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	Cordance:	Honestly I think you guys have done a great job. Its awesome and sad that an ACL is sold out. If only sold meant esport$
	VoxMSI.Rogue:	Appreciate all the hard work Vanz ♥♥♥
	inFeZa:	^^^^ Still going to be awesome and im sure you guys will do your best to accommodate as many people as you can!
	TACeeSerps:	Now that is what I've been waiting to hear all day! Thank you!!!@!@!@! Much love
	Dingobloo:	Good problems to have, GL with it!
	TAriiChard:	<3
	nirvAnA:	Action plan FTW! Great stuff VaNzr, addressing the issue directly was what everyone was waiting for. :)
	|Erasmus|:	props to someone dealing with it properly.
	x5_dot:	nice :)
	pja:	Awesome job, keep it up
	NvRossi:	great great post
	Baldie:	Very well written and professional
	ToRSpartaz:	Awesome good response
	cRSenSei:	F*ck I love you vanz.
	EsKy:	I will support any action that results in my going to acl
	Nandos:	I hope you handle all the PR stuff from now instead of the other self-important guy. This is how its done.

[Bluejay]

Im just glad I managed to get a couple of tickets. Flights and Acom are booked from NZ, ready to roll!

[ACL VaNzR]

Hey guys, I realise a lot of people are waiting on further response from me. I can tell you this:

- ACL organisers of this event have met with Blizzard this evening
- ACL has spoken with a 3rd party to help accommodate 'left out' SC2 fans
- We are waiting on concrete information before announcing anything (to make sure we can make it eventuate)
- All IDs will be checked with tickets. A ticket holder can only retain 1 individual ticket, plus 1 guest
- Scalping will not be tolerated and obviously names will not match up on ID check
- A plan to accommodate for 'no-shows' & also provide giveaway tickets will be announced by Thursday night

Long story short: There will be opportunities for more members of the public to gain access to this event. For those that cannot make it, we are trying to ensure there is an experience that will substitute as best as possible for the situation.

I wish I had more information to give people tonight, but unfortunately I don't. Hopefully this will address some issues at least, and look out for more word from me soon.

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	akky:	Love your work
	TACeeSerps:	Keep up the good work!! You are ESPORTS!
	breadfan:	Thanks for going the extra mile for this!
	Asrathiel:	♥
	nirvAnA:	VaNzR saves the day!!!!!
	VoxMSI.Rogue:	good man ♥
	x5_dot:	great news!

[UHF]

What should the people do that grabbed surplus tickets or for some reason have a ticket they are no longer using?

Examples
- if someone grabbed 4 tickets, 1 for themselves and 3 for mates and legitimately want them/are going
- if someone greedily grabbed 4 tickets but only need 1 for themselves and dont need the rest


(before someone asks, no i only have 1 myself)

[inFeZa]

Originally Posted by UHF

What should the people do that grabbed surplus tickets or for some reason have a ticket they are no longer using?

Examples
- if someone grabbed 4 tickets, 1 for themselves and 3 for mates and legitimately want them/are going
- if someone greedily grabbed 4 tickets but only need 1 for themselves and dont need the rest


(before someone asks, no i only have 1 myself)

You could only order 2 as far as i know.

[Dox]

Originally Posted by inFeZa

You could only order 2 as far as i know.

Per transaction, yes. But you could process unlimited transactions. Some people managed to get nearly a dozen.

[inFeZa]

Originally Posted by Dox

Per transaction, yes. But you could process unlimited transactions. Some people managed to get nearly a dozen.

That's just jeranism :<

Edit: i mean for the purpose of scalping

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	Asrathiel:	Some people were grabbing them for groups of friends too
	breadfan:	I imagine in the case of like a group of clanmates, one guy might have organised all tickets
	fray`Alpha:	Yeah I ordered tickets for a group of 6 of us, because I was the only one available to get on a computer at that time

[Cordance]

Should we look at making ACL VaNzR post its own thread so people dont miss out. This news post is starting to become old news. This is kind of very important information for a lot of people.
I hope these alternatives pan out. Im guessing they are going to need a new set of volunteers to help out with this as well. Given most of your helpers are going to be at the main event. Although my plans to travel to Sydney at this point have stopped if/when I resume them I will look into helping out if I can.

[jbhewitt]

@UHF

We will be emailing all ticket holders closer to the event to confirm that they can all make it to the event.

Ticket holders can let us know if they can no longer make it or have surplus tickets. We'll then re-issue the free'd up tickets.

[Dox]

Originally Posted by Cordance

Should we look at making ACL VaNzR post its own thread so people dont miss out. This news post is starting to become old news. This is kind of very important information for a lot of people.
I hope these alternatives pan out. Im guessing they are going to need a new set of volunteers to help out with this as well. Given most of your helpers are going to be at the main event. Although my plans to travel to Sydney at this point have stopped if/when I resume them I will look into helping out if I can.

Pretty sure the details will appear on the ACL site, i'll advertise the hell out of it when it's up. People won't miss out.

[toasti0]

Originally Posted by UHF

What should the people do that grabbed surplus tickets or for some reason have a ticket they are no longer using?

Examples
- if someone grabbed 4 tickets, 1 for themselves and 3 for mates and legitimately want them/are going
- if someone greedily grabbed 4 tickets but only need 1 for themselves and dont need the rest


(before someone asks, no i only have 1 myself)

The organizes are trying to stamp out anyone who bought more than 2 tickets 1 for yourself 1 for a friend. All other transactions would been seen as dodgy. This gives other people who missed out a chance to get tickets.

My question is If you registered multiple tickets for friends under the one name e.g. 12 tickets registered to hag scalper, wouldn't it be easy to check duplicate named tickets and reissue those as well, rather than relying on email confirmation. Otherwise people with multiple emails can confirm multiple tickets when they all the duplicate names.

[syfMiley]

Originally Posted by Dox

Per transaction, yes. But you could process unlimited transactions. Some people managed to get nearly a dozen.

Not kocher man, not even halal.

[TragicHero]

Wish I'm Australian

[faithHunter]

Wish I lived in Australia

Tasteless, why don't you visit your father here in Jakarta, Indonesia?

[Dox]

Originally Posted by ACLPro.com.au

Due to the high demand for the Blizzard WCS event and the extremely fast ticket sell out time we have made extra arrangements to try and accommodate those who missed out. Below outlines further ticket plans and information that both current ticket holders and people seeking tickets should be aware of.

More details:
http://www.aclpro.com.au/forums/topi...icket-details/

[FSNiseH]

I am so shattered that i can't go

[AusBox]

Great article on WCS Oceania - http://games.on.net/2012/07/sunday-e...onship-series/

[AssyrianKing]

Aww Day9 in it would have been terrific

[Dox]

Originally Posted by Dox

More details:
http://www.aclpro.com.au/forums/topi...icket-details/

Bump. Very important.

[Intoccabile19]

"On Wednesday 1st August all current ticket holders will receive a confirmation email that asks them to let event organisers know of their intent to still attend the event. If ticket holders reply letting ACL know that they will no longer be attending"

Can I please get clarification that you only have to reply if you are no longer attending? It seems pretty obvious but I would like to be 100% clear on this.

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[Dox]

Yep.......

[inFeZa]

Less than 2 Weeks to go! OMG

[syfChadMann]

Question.

Mate of mine has arranged tickets - for him and a friend. My mate from Brisbane booked the tickets in his name. He couldn't get an earlier flight and doesn't land till 11am on Saturday - doesn't plan on getting to ATP till Saturday afternoon. The +1's to the initial booking wants to get in earlier. Is this possible? or does the person with their name on the booking have to rock up with ID and bring in their +1 at the time?

I think there are a few questions about the claiming of tickets and how this process will work... :S

[Dox]

Originally Posted by cR.ChadMann

Question.

Mate of mine has arranged tickets - for him and a friend. My mate from Brisbane booked the tickets in his name. He couldn't get an earlier flight and doesn't land till 11am on Saturday - doesn't plan on getting to ATP till Saturday afternoon. The +1's to the initial booking wants to get in earlier. Is this possible? or does the person with their name on the booking have to rock up with ID and bring in their +1 at the time?

I think there are a few questions about the claiming of tickets and how this process will work... :S

Good thing there are confirmation e-mails being sent out on Wednesday! I'm sure you'll have the opportunity to clear it up then.

[bswhunter]

Didn't get the tickets I need.
The site says something about "giveaway" tickets though, anyone got any infomation on that?

[HDPhoenix]

Tastosis!!

[toasti0]

Anyone got the august 1st confirmation booking yet?

[Dox]

Originally Posted by ACLPro

Blizzard WCS Players - If you haven't done so already, check your email inbox.

https://twitter.com/ACLPro/status/230614211624050688
Just for players who haven't seen it yet.

[toasti0]

I waited all day on the 1st of aug but didn't get it till the 2nd. Been away for 4 days though so I only got a chance to reply to the email today at 4:45pm. Whens the cut off for this response thing?

[rezyn8]

Silicon Sports will be doing a BarCraft in Melbourne on Sunday for the Oceania Qualifiers from 1pm through to the end. Sign up here on at facebook so we can get a rough idea of numbers: https://www.facebook.com/events/311191465645581/

[Hydroid]

Originally Posted by Dox

https://twitter.com/ACLPro/status/230614211624050688
Just for players who haven't seen it yet.

I got the confirmation e-mail for 1 of my tickets, but not for the other one. There's 4 of us intending to come, but I'm really starting to worry now that only 2 of us will be able to make it in on the day. That is, for spectator tickets.

[VB_WhiplashJC]

Heaps of people in chat asking for your playlist guys.

[x5_Potter]

Dickloads of Machinae Supremacy (YAY)

[SmokyMcPot]

I was flipping out cuz they played MY band!! Facebook\ Triameraband

[Dox]

Originally Posted by VB_WhiplashJC

Heaps of people in chat asking for your playlist guys.

Forgot to mention last week (oops) I published it here -
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...yUP6xjlbU/edit

[SFTAElessar]

Omg i cant believe i missed this!!!!!!!