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Sanctify · Wed, 20th-Jul-2011, 1:04 PM

Admin edit: You will now be able to buy a Starcraft 2 "Korean" account through out store legally. First make sure to read our guide to Setting up your Korean Starcraft 2 account and follow the instructions to test your latency.

Just wondering if there's anyone here who plays on Taiwan/Korean servers, and how their delay is.

Is there any way to play on these servers and improve latency to make it more playable? Yes I have googled and tried to search through TL etc, but I haven't really found anything that works (other than getting an ISP that connects well to korea).

Thanks

Nobunaga · Wed, 20th-Jul-2011, 1:22 PM

You could try to get a tunneling service? Though most go through to the US.

Meatex · Wed, 20th-Jul-2011, 1:38 PM

If you get good ping to SEA you are likely going to get good ping to Korea as the 2 aren't that far from each other

EveTechtron · Wed, 20th-Jul-2011, 2:17 PM

open up cmd and type in

tracert kr.logon.battle.net
tracert sea.battle.net

I get better ping on KR then i do on SEA!

Aean(: · Wed, 20th-Jul-2011, 2:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by techtron

open up cmd and type in

tracert kr.logon.battle.net
tracert sea.battle.net

I get better ping on KR then i do on SEA!

That is to the website no? Both sites i get 20ms.. thats not how you would figure your ping to korean server

mGMUSE · Wed, 20th-Jul-2011, 4:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by techtron

open up cmd and type in

tracert kr.logon.battle.net
tracert sea.battle.net

I get better ping on KR then i do on SEA!

I'm quite sure this doesn't give you an accurate ping to the servers. I get different IP addresses when i connect to the Bnet servers and use netstat -n to trace the IP addresses(unfortunately I couldn't ping them).

Changing to fibre optics(for SG Users) drastically improves your ping to KR server. Based on my experience, these were my ping before and after changing:

Before:
SEA: 20ms
NA: 300ms
KR: 500ms

After:
SEA: 10ms
NA: 350ms
KR: 130ms

PS: I have a friend who has had the same experience as me

Sanctify · Wed, 20th-Jul-2011, 5:05 PM

Ok yea i get huge ping to Korea (mind you I'm not on the computer, internet connection or place i play SC from at the moment, but I assume results would be similar). From NSW (Australia), what could I do to improve this (if possible at all) ?

Meatex · Wed, 20th-Jul-2011, 3:23 PM

well the web server might be in another room but likely close by the game server farm so its a good indication.
Its really not that complicated

ZergGirl · Wed, 20th-Jul-2011, 6:08 PM

202.9.66.76 is the SEA server and 202.9.66.38 is the sea.battle.net address.
No difference in latency, it's just easier to tell people to tracert a battle.net address.

121.254.200.130 is the korean Server IP number and kr.logon.battle.net is exactly the same. So I don't know why some people are saying the things they are ;3

You can't ping it as Blizzard (and whoever they have contracted to host the game itself in SEA) block you from doing so, which is why you do a tracert and use the last known result before 'Destination unreachable' to get your latency.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aean(:

That is to the website no? Both sites i get 20ms.. thats not how you would figure your ping to korean server

The difference for SEA and S.korea is less than 50ms (for me in Australia), it's quite possible for you to ping low 20 to kr and high 20s to SEA xD

Quote:

Originally Posted by mGMUSE

I'm quite sure this doesn't give you an accurate ping to the servers. I get different IP addresses when i connect to the Bnet servers and use netstat -n to trace the IP addresses(unfortunately I couldn't ping them).

Changing to fibre optics(for SG Users) drastically improves your ping to KR server. Based on my experience, these were my ping before and after changing:

Before:
SEA: 20ms
NA: 300ms
KR: 500ms

After:
SEA: 10ms
NA: 350ms
KR: 130ms

PS: I have a friend who has had the same experience as me

The old electrical (copper) wiring performs better in a vacuum compared to fibre optics, SG routing (when on fibre) is just much nicer

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sanctify

Just wondering if there's anyone here who plays on Taiwan/Korean servers, and how their delay is.

Is there any way to play on these servers and improve latency to make it more playable? Yes I have googled and tried to search through TL etc, but I haven't really found anything that works (other than getting an ISP that connects well to korea).

Thanks

You have two choices, Change ISP to one that has a better connection to S.korea. Or you do tracert kr.logon.battle.net and post it.. so we can say 'YES a tunneling service to improve your routing would help' or 'Sorry you are one unlucky nub'.

I think that's everything \o/

Aean(: · Wed, 20th-Jul-2011, 6:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZergGirl

which is why you do a tracert and use the last known result before 'Destination unreachable' to get your latency.

You sure? cus that means my ping to SEA is 400ms.

I dont know why but my first 3 results are always 20-22ms and then the rest is 200+ gradually getting higher to 400.

tracert sea.battle.net

+ Show +

tracert kr.logon.battle.net

+ Show +

How is it possible that my Sea and Kr ping is the same when i live in australia.. something unreliable here

Edit; Tried it with US servers and i maxed at 200ms.. i dont even notice the servers being that much difference in response.. o.o but then again i wouldnt notice a 0.2s difference. ohwell

Quick Comments

NvRossi:

face palm

Sanctify · Wed, 20th-Jul-2011, 6:22 PM

Quote:

Or you do tracert kr.logon.battle.net and post it.. so we can say 'YES a tunneling service to improve your routing would help' or 'Sorry you are one unlucky nub'.

Tracing route to kr.logon.battle.net [121.254.200.130]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 5 ms 8 ms 3 ms home [10.0.0.138]
2 21 ms 28 ms 25 ms syd-pow-cla-bras2-lo-20.tpgi.com.au [10.20.20.12
5]
3 33 ms 23 ms 20 ms syd-pow-cla-csw2-vlan-10.tpgi.com.au [202.7.166.
66]
4 61 ms 54 ms 24 ms syd-pow-cla-crt1-ge-4-0.tpgi.com.au [202.7.162.1
3]
5 87 ms 48 ms 43 ms syd-sot-ken-crt1-ge-3-1-0.tpgi.com.au [203.29.13
5.33]
6 130 ms 174 ms 123 ms ix-11-1-0-507.tcore2.TV2-Tokyo.as6453.net [116.0
.88.21]
7 220 ms 202 ms 219 ms if-14-0-0-1720.core1.TV2-Tokyo.as6453.net [209.5
8.61.121]
8 364 ms 235 ms 222 ms if-5-0-0.core3.HK2-HongKong.as6453.net [116.0.82
.1]
9 190 ms * 197 ms Vlan1122.icore1.HK2-HongKong.as6453.net [216.6.9
5.6]
10 434 ms 429 ms 429 ms lg-RGE.hkix.net [202.40.160.240]
11 434 ms 439 ms 450 ms 1.208.104.29
12 428 ms 436 ms 439 ms 211.40.6.10
13 455 ms 473 ms 467 ms 210.180.225.102
14 477 ms 462 ms 470 ms 1.208.104.26
15 430 ms 468 ms 429 ms 110.45.128.66
16 449 ms 444 ms 436 ms 211.234.120.10
17 121.254.199.42 reports: Destination net unreachable.

Trace complete.

haha ok what can you tell me :L?

ZergGirl · Thu, 21st-Jul-2011, 2:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aean(:

You sure? cus that means my ping to SEA is 400ms.

I dont know why but my first 3 results are always 20-22ms and then the rest is 200+ gradually getting higher to 400.

tracert sea.battle.net

+ Show +

tracert kr.logon.battle.net

+ Show +

How is it possible that my Sea and Kr ping is the same when i live in australia.. something unreliable here

Edit; Tried it with US servers and i maxed at 200ms.. i dont even notice the servers being that much difference in response.. o.o but then again i wouldnt notice a 0.2s difference. ohwell

You are going through the US to get to KR and SEA (at least at the end) so the Latency is very similar, optus do this. Your first three hops are low because it's in the country sill.

Quick Comments

Aean(::

i guess that makes sense

Sanctify · Thu, 21st-Jul-2011, 4:27 PM

Ok so I met someone today who happened to play on Korean servers. In our brief exchange, I asked about lag and how he dealt with it. He said he used a proxy to get a better connection because the lag was unplayable. Does anyone know how to do this, or where to find out?

Stewcat · Sat, 1st-Oct-2011, 12:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sanctify

Ok so I met someone today who happened to play on Korean servers. In our brief exchange, I asked about lag and how he dealt with it. He said he used a proxy to get a better connection because the lag was unplayable. Does anyone know how to do this, or where to find out?

i googled it and this is just the first result i got. http://www.guard-privacy-and-online-...onymizers.html

"Proxy Servers
A proxy server is a deputy or third party server, which acts as a relay between our computer and the Website we are accessing.

A proxy server saves files most frequently requested by Internet users in a special database, called a “cache”. When we wish to access a website page, if the information is already in the server cache, then it is transferred to our computer... so saving time by not having to make the actual connection to the site."

^looks like how it works. idk though. my ping doesn't really get over 250 so i think my lag will be okay

ZergGirl · Wed, 20th-Jul-2011, 6:34 PM

It looks great untill you hit hkix.net and for some reason they aren't peering 'properly' and you are receiving the data back through the US.

I'd say unlucky nub ;3

Sanctify · Wed, 20th-Jul-2011, 6:46 PM

haha lucky me :P. so really nothing to do, other than play with other ISPs ?

duanloves · Thu, 21st-Jul-2011, 12:00 AM

For Singapore players im afraid you are going to get some delay that might affect your overall gameplay especially in a korean style of play. As you know in SC2, every little bit counts.

Some Aussie says the delay is barely noticeable.

Nobunaga · Thu, 21st-Jul-2011, 7:48 AM

Yeah but Aussies always get delay regardless where the server is so =/

SayfT · Thu, 21st-Jul-2011, 5:26 PM

Lag seems fine for me, I'm with TPG, so far lag is similar to SEA for me.

**TAEdgE** · Thu, 21st-Jul-2011, 5:30 PM

Wish i was singaporean if i played on SEA.
Anyway, i get this: (I'm with internode, living in southern Australia)

SEA: 110MS
NA: 270MS
KR: 350MS

LennX · Thu, 21st-Jul-2011, 6:23 PM

Hmm what is the tracert address for NA sever?

Sanctify · Thu, 21st-Jul-2011, 11:00 PM

ok so feel free to call me a total retard if I'm looking at things completely wrong, cause I honestly don't know much about what I'm trying to solve :P.

But would something like http://www.flyvpn.com/ work?

ZergGirl · Fri, 22nd-Jul-2011, 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sanctify

ok so feel free to call me a total retard if I'm looking at things completely wrong, cause I honestly don't know much about what I'm trying to solve :P.

But would something like http://www.flyvpn.com/ work?

Something like that if it's got good routing to kr from where you live, but your latency was fine getting into korea, it was horrible coming back :P

But with the UDP change I'm not even sure if using a tunneling service works with sc2 anymore (most companies that offered Starcraft 2 'tunneling' services dropped it after the change). No harm in trying though

Malik · Fri, 22nd-Jul-2011, 11:04 AM

if the ping to server is the lsat one before it says destination unreachable then apparently i have 17ms ping to sea 17 ping to NA and 56 ping to Kr ....

from sydney australia... I pretty sure that this not correct as last time i played the lag was pretty bad.

ZergGirl · Fri, 22nd-Jul-2011, 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Malik

if the ping to server is the lsat one before it says destination unreachable then apparently i have 17ms ping to sea 17 ping to NA and 56 ping to Kr ....

from sydney australia... I pretty sure that this not correct as last time i played the lag was pretty bad.

Then link your tracert results

Malik · Fri, 22nd-Jul-2011, 11:15 AM

SEA

Tracing route to 202.9.66.76 over a maximum of 30 hops

1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 192.168.1.1
2 3 ms 3 ms 2 ms mygateway1.ar7 [10.1.1.1]
3 16 ms 16 ms 16 ms nexthop.nsw.iinet.net.au [203.215.19.247]
4 16 ms 16 ms 17 ms te1 [203.215.18.18]
5 17 ms mygateway1.ar7 [10.1.1.1] reports: Destination protocol unreachab
le.

Trace complete.

Korea

Tracing route to 121.254.200.130 over a maximum of 30 hops

1 2 ms 1 ms 1 ms 192.168.1.1
2 2 ms 2 ms 2 ms mygateway1.ar7 [10.1.1.1]
3 16 ms 16 ms 16 ms nexthop.nsw.iinet.net.au [203.215.19.247]
4 16 ms 16 ms 16 ms te1-1.syd-mas-bdr1.iinet.net.au [203.215.18.18]

5 16 ms mygateway1.ar7 [10.1.1.1] reports: Destination protocol unreachab
le.

Trace complete.

AxSGRiM · Thu, 21st-Jul-2011, 9:29 PM

I'm from HK and i get good latency when I'm playing in the SEA/KR servers. Occasionally I have bad latency on NA servers, however.

ZergGirl · Fri, 22nd-Jul-2011, 11:17 AM

It's just looping, it ends where it starts :P

Malik · Fri, 22nd-Jul-2011, 11:38 AM

is there anyway i can stop this or use a different protocal so that i can find my ping to the server.

ZergGirl · Fri, 22nd-Jul-2011, 11:42 AM

ftrace (http://www.r1ch.net/stuff/ftrace/) may help? No idea really.

**PiG** · Fri, 22nd-Jul-2011, 12:35 PM

I'm witgh netspace in sydney and I get good ping to SEA, NA and KR servers. NA will lag on occasion but is generally fine.

Maybe I'm just used to the small amounts of lag so I don't notice it anymore? Though tbh i think i would notice considering zvz bane wars kinda demands complete responsivity.

CZE · Tue, 2nd-Aug-2011, 3:57 PM

Anyone with Optus on the KR/TW server? I constantly get > 350 ping to SEA at peak periods and < 200 on NA T_T

Xzacutionar · Tue, 9th-Aug-2011, 5:18 AM

Singapore here and I just bought a TW account to play in Korea servers.

Using Singtel as ISP and it sucks! My latency to KR is worse than my latency to NA -_-

Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7600]
Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

C:\Users\94105>tracert kr.logon.battle.net

Tracing route to kr.logon.battle.net [121.254.200.130]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms gateway.gateway.2wire.net [192.168.1.254]
2 19 ms 25 ms 20 ms bb121-6-160-1.singnet.com.sg [121.6.160.1]
3 20 ms 20 ms 19 ms 202.166.123.185
4 21 ms 27 ms 21 ms te-2-4-3300.sake.singnet.com.sg [202.166.124.57]

5 23 ms 20 ms 26 ms xe-3-3-0.kirin.singnet.com.sg [202.166.124.145]

6 21 ms 20 ms 20 ms ae8-0.budweiser.singnet.com.sg [202.166.120.182]

7 25 ms 19 ms 22 ms ae1-0.beck.singnet.com.sg [202.166.124.234]
8 21 ms 22 ms 21 ms 203.208.190.57
9 20 ms 20 ms 20 ms ge-1-0-0-0.sngc3-dr1.ix.singtel.com [203.208.173
.134]
10 21 ms 20 ms 23 ms ge-1-1-0-0.sngc3-ar3.ix.singtel.com [203.208.172
.118]
11 214 ms 217 ms 216 ms 203.208.146.154
12 226 ms 258 ms 215 ms 211.63.37.141
13 221 ms 221 ms 210 ms 211.63.37.14
14 216 ms 240 ms 272 ms 61.42.202.206
15 242 ms 233 ms 239 ms 203.233.117.186
16 219 ms 232 ms 218 ms 110.45.128.74
17 230 ms 232 ms 224 ms 211.234.120.150
18 121.254.199.42 reports: Destination net unreachable.

Trace complete.

C:\Users\94105>

shmiman · Tue, 9th-Aug-2011, 6:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xzacutionar

Singapore here and I just bought a TW account to play in Korea servers.

Using Singtel as ISP and it sucks! My latency to KR is worse than my latency to NA -_-

Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7600]
Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

C:\Users\94105>tracert kr.logon.battle.net

Tracing route to kr.logon.battle.net [121.254.200.130]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms gateway.gateway.2wire.net [192.168.1.254]
2 19 ms 25 ms 20 ms bb121-6-160-1.singnet.com.sg [121.6.160.1]
3 20 ms 20 ms 19 ms 202.166.123.185
4 21 ms 27 ms 21 ms te-2-4-3300.sake.singnet.com.sg [202.166.124.57]

5 23 ms 20 ms 26 ms xe-3-3-0.kirin.singnet.com.sg [202.166.124.145]

6 21 ms 20 ms 20 ms ae8-0.budweiser.singnet.com.sg [202.166.120.182]

7 25 ms 19 ms 22 ms ae1-0.beck.singnet.com.sg [202.166.124.234]
8 21 ms 22 ms 21 ms 203.208.190.57
9 20 ms 20 ms 20 ms ge-1-0-0-0.sngc3-dr1.ix.singtel.com [203.208.173
.134]
10 21 ms 20 ms 23 ms ge-1-1-0-0.sngc3-ar3.ix.singtel.com [203.208.172
.118]
11 214 ms 217 ms 216 ms 203.208.146.154
12 226 ms 258 ms 215 ms 211.63.37.141
13 221 ms 221 ms 210 ms 211.63.37.14
14 216 ms 240 ms 272 ms 61.42.202.206
15 242 ms 233 ms 239 ms 203.233.117.186
16 219 ms 232 ms 218 ms 110.45.128.74
17 230 ms 232 ms 224 ms 211.234.120.150
18 121.254.199.42 reports: Destination net unreachable.

Trace complete.

C:\Users\94105>

You have like slightly better numbers than mine :/ Wonder whether it's okay though. Still dl-ing the client.

tutsicockroach · Sun, 14th-Aug-2011, 6:51 PM

Target Name: kr.logon.battle.net
IP: 121.254.200.130
Date/Time: 14/08/2011 5:50:19 PM

1 5 ms 132.115.in-addr.arpa [115.132.109.217]
2 6 ms [10.55.32.154]
3 235 ms [211.40.6.117]
4 225 ms [61.42.202.129]
5 217 ms [211.63.38.14]
6 238 ms [210.120.105.150]
7 124 ms [210.107.112.250]
8 114 ms [110.45.128.66]
9 112 ms [211.234.120.10]

pretty good ping to KR from malaysia

StitcH · Mon, 15th-Aug-2011, 4:17 PM

Just got my Korean account via here about 3-4 days ago I think? The lag was hardly noticeable, definitely better than NA. From Singapore btw.

Strafe · Mon, 26th-Sep-2011, 3:21 AM

135ms from Bangkok to Korea. Guess I will be laddering on KR server a bit more now ;D

emart · Sun, 2nd-Oct-2011, 12:20 PM

How are you able to acquire a Korean account? I would really like to buy one sometime in the future im just not sure im going to be aloud to ever think about possibly doing that

johnnyli · Sun, 2nd-Oct-2011, 4:53 PM

Is there a internet provider in sydney that has Fibre Optics atm??