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View Poll Results: What conditions should be set to the community open?
Allow them to compete 68 66.67%
Don't allow any players foreign or formerly foreign to SEA to compete 6 5.88%
Allow all SEA-citizens (or those who live in SEA) to compete 22 21.57%
Other (List in a comment) 6 5.88%
Voters: 102. You may not vote on this poll

 
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Unread Wed, 10th-Aug-2011, 11:45 PM Who's Who:   Race: Clan: eCKo  Location: Adelaide, Australia  Total Posts Made: 750 # 1
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Koreans in SEA Community Events

Good Evening South-East Asia. Tonight, I do not wish to speak as a citizen of Australia, but instead as a player of SEA. As of recently, our community has had a new addition. However, many are speculating over the result of the entire community because of the addition of this new member. He has had victory after victory in our events, and many are of the opinion that this terror cannot be stopped. He is known only as...

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Ok, I lied, hes also known as yChSPR and gts

And also

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fou
He isn't actually in fou anymore, so I hear. His SEA account is Master

And that really is what this thread is all about. Now that the hyping is done, heres all you need to know! (It was afterwards that I noticed how these were both movies, when I just googled their usernames... A sign, perhaps?)

The Facts:
- ST_KingKong has won the Masters cup twice, beating Moonglade in one, (http://challonge.com/mc5) and beating another korean progamer known on the SEA server as Master (Soulmanfou (http://challonge.com/mc6))

- He has won the community open twice in a row, #30 (http://www.sc2sea.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=404) and #31 (http://www.sc2sea.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=413).

- ST_KingKong is above the skill of all SEA players, which he proved from the start after beating moonglade, but has only further solidified that point ever since.

- Soulman isn't far behind ST_KingKong, taking second place in Masters Cup #6 and Community Open #31. If ST_KingKong wasn't winning the tournaments, it safe to say Soulman probably would be winning them instead.

- ST_KingKong played vs ogsMC. Check it out!


Why they should be allowed to compete
- Forces SEA players to play better in order to win tournaments, raising the competitive level
- The rules don't currently state they cannot compete
- Both joined a SEA clan known as team SPR and have some participation with the community

Why they shouldn't be allowed to compete
- Its currently extremely difficult for SEA players to compete with them, even the high level players. They won't be able to catch up in skill level any time soon.
- They don't participate that much with the community, when they do it is usually to win tournaments.
- No one in SEA at the highest levels has the dedication as well as the amount of free time necessary to train like they do.

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And then it turned out that the entire thread was made of win...

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Please do not flame them in this thread, I want to have a civilized discussion about this issue. You might have also noticed the poll up the top, that Nirvana suggested I'd add. We may or may not change the rules of the community open based on the results of the poll and your opinions. At this point in time, that is the primary focus of this discussion, so although you can reference the masters cup, try to keep it as relevant as possible to this specific issue. We want to keep you guys happy, and if you want to continue to see korean progamers competing with our SEA players on an almost weekly basis, or don't want to, then tell us. Its hard to tell if there is a problem here or not, to be honest.
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