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Unread Tue, 5th-Jun-2012, 8:00 PM Who's Who:   BattleTag: delete12#6306  Race: Clan: aLt  Location: Sydney, Australia  Total Posts Made: 391 # 11
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I'm going through this replay and analysing for chobo's benefit, because if he tried to explain himself it would be shut down immediately by everyone. I'm personally undecided if he's hacking or not.

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Originally Posted by iM Mafia View Post
Just made a video of my rep analysis for those who are too lazy to download and rewatch the rep themselves. This is of Chobo and Enderr

it's about 30 mins long, so theres alot of random bits but if you guys disagree with any of those points i mentioned in the video please say so
http://www.twitch.tv/xeriamafia/b/320424553



ZvT Replay Enderr vs Chobo [Ohana LE]

7:03 - 7:04 : Looks at Bunker ready to salvage and leaves before queens even get there to attack.
he was planning to salvage it anyway, that might have been a coincidence

7:40 - 7:42 : Looks at Enderr's base through fog of war, see's the gas, but moves his camera up more to make sure he saw everything.
He was just looking at the base, maybe he didn't notice there was gas when he was microing his marines but saw it on the minimap. Decides to look to confirm that the gas is taken. Also, isn't this contradictory to the "camera lock" thing?

9:55 - 9:56 : Sends rally point from Starport(Viking in production) straight to the overlord on the right hand side of his base,

9:57 - 9:58 : Realises that theres another overlord at the bottom left of his base which is closer and would scout his 3rd command centre plus tech so changes his rally to kill that one instead.
he could have assumed that there were overlords in those positions without maphack

10:42 - 10:47 : Rally point of Viking goes directly aimed through 4 overlords on the map.
if he was maphacking, wouldn't he go for the one on the right of his base, as it's closer? He's checking common spots (the fringes of the map), and coincidentally there are overlords in the common spots. It looks like he wanted to check the edges of the map, from the rally points.

11:28 - 11:29 : Is planning on taking his 3rd, looks at his third realises there's a ling there and kills it with his hellions before lifting his cc.
he might have assumed there would be a zergling there

11:47 - 11:50 : Notices how he sends his hellions straight but immediately realises theres 1 ling coming to the 4th base so changes the direction of his hellions to kill it.
Similarly, he could have assumed this.

12:26 - 12:29 : Selects Viking and redoes his attack rally straight through 2 overlords on the map.
He ran away from the queen, then redid his attack rally to avoid the third base, but went back to the original path (looking at the edges of the map)

12:45 - 12:50 : Notices 1 ling attacking his 3rd, immediately realises my opponent knows I have a 3rd, what's he gonna do is he gonna attack me? So moves his camera to the watchtower where Enderr's units are to see if hes in threat.
His viking flew over that army a few seconds ago

13:00 - 13:07 : Notice how Enderr has some lings on the map moving to his 3rd and he puts down 3 supply depots conveniently to prevent runbys from happening.
Later in the game, this depo wall dies and he rebuilds it shortly after. It may have been "conveniently" placed the first time, but that might have been coincidence. It looks like something he just does on this map.

13:22 - 13:30 : Controls his hellions and positions them perfectly way before he even sees any lings on the minimap.
don't know about this

14:40 - 15:00 : Moves out of his base with his army, but purposely leaves some marines behind and rallys to his natural because he knows that there are units positioned at the 4th.
I don't know about TvZ, but maybe he was just being safe from any counter attack.
Why would he rally to the natural if he knew the attack would come at the 3 depo wall at the fourth?


16:00 : This far into the game hes had 3 Orbitals and a viking has not scouted his opponents base to see if hes going mutas at all, what kind of retarded terran doesn't afraid of mutas makes 0 turrets. At this point all he has seen on the minimap is 2 hatcheries 1 pool and 1 extractor.

16:46 - 16:48 : The 3rd time he selects his viking all game, his rally pathing goes straight through 2 overlords and 3 zerglings(which are the only things on the whole right hand side of the map) pretty godly starsense.
his viking's path pretty much covers the whole right hand side of the map anyway

16:54 - 16:59 : Notice how he selects his SCV because there are 40 zerglings at his 4th he looks there before knowing theres anything there.
he had just completed moving his army to the watchtower, might have just looked at it because he had nothing better to do.

17:18 - 17:24 : Notice how his 2 medivacs are already rallied but because he realises he's flying past either an overlord or a zergling he is planning to change the direction of his medivacs but then once they get closer he realises it's only a zergling so he's just ignoring it and going back on course.
He controls his double medivac drop to try and kill any of the lings that killed that scv shortly before. He doesn't see any, and resets the medivacs path to do the drop in the main. He flies over a zergling that was barely out of the medivac's vision while his camera was on the medivacs.
Zergling or overlord, if he noticed he would have cancelled the drop regardless


19:39 - 19:40 : He directly pinpoints his army movement to where the zergs army is just infront of.
This is his deathpush, and he wants the units to be rallied offensively
The way that a game appears depends on the viewer's mindset. As many of you believe he is hacking, you will see these moves as evidence. As I'm doing this to defend him, I don't. If anyone else is truely looking for the truth, watch this replay and the others yourself.

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thats why you are the manner man <3 this post is gold
 CHoBo(kice):  
ty sir
 Zealo:  
pretty much how i saw it
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