[LGShaft]

Originally Posted by VB_Potthead

SEA players have access to NA server.

This is sounding better and better. Does anyone have any suggestions on whom I should contact? I'm really leaning towards PiG at the moment, but why on Earth should I stop with just one SEA player?

[nirvAnA]

some recommendations

PiG (aLt), jazboss (inFi)
Light (TA), yaaaang (TA)
HuT (aLt), iaguz (Hybrid)

Updated with affiliations in response to chad's comment

Looks like 2 aLt 2 TA and 1 hybrid to me! I don't get it lol same thing happened with the sc2sea Awards, when PiG won one and TA won like half of them a select few kept going on about how it was aLt biased.

I basically just looked at the tgm coach page as most of those guys have tons of coaching hours under their belt hence the experience with articulating their thoughts / strategy to mid range - lower level players and i thought they were suitable for the show.

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syfChadMann:

All aLt?.. :P

[x5_Potter]

Iaguuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuz.

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	nirvAnA:	how could i forget! ty <3
	Crankenstein:

[FLuX]

Originally Posted by nirvAnA

HuT, iaguz

Eager Nirvana, quotes half the terrans on the SEA server..

[Bloodmyst]

I'm sure Targa would love to volunteer

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mGGAequitas:

lolol

[dippa]

Originally Posted by nirvAnA

PiG, jazboss
Light, yaaaang
HuT, iaguz

no mention of tgun?

deth/rossi/pinder/targa/ninja would be good choices too, all eloquent lads who would give fantastic interviews.

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eCKo`Switch:

tguuuuuuun

[nirvAnA]

yea tgun is great

by no means was my list meant to be a complete one, don't take offense if some names aren't included please. I basically just looked at the tgm coach page as most of those guys have tons of coaching hours under their belt hence the experience with articulating their thoughts / strategy to mid range - lower level players and i thought they were suitable for the show. and i dont think targa would want to be associated with this based on his comments here lol.

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syfChadMann:

The aLt thing was a joke mannng.. <3

[dippa]

Originally Posted by vVvShaft

forever flying in the face of the meta-game and unafraid to look at all perspectives

kindly explain to me, then, why enderr persistently goes ******* 9 pool in every zvt

[dippa]

Originally Posted by nirvAnA

yea tgun is great

by no means was my list meant to be a complete one, don't take offense if some names aren't included please. I basically just looked at the tgm coach page as most of those guys have tons of coaching hours under their belt hence the experience with articulating their thoughts / strategy to mid range - lower level players and i thought they were suitable for the show. and i dont think targa would want to be associated with this based on his comments here lol.

no-one's taking offence; i just thought of tgun because i figured he would have been the most instantly recognisable name among US players next to moonglade (perhaps even more so with the its gosu attachment)

[Frogmite]

Originally Posted by nirvAnA

some recommendations

PiG (aLt), jazboss (inFi)
Light (TA), yaaaang (TA)
HuT (aLt), iaguz (Hybrid)

You forgot Roz.

[nirvAnA]

oh good to know dippa

yea and even that demuslim drama too raised more awareness. would be nice to see tgun in this, im happy eddie steered the thread in the right direction and the show will feature a SEA guest. SEA gets more exposure, his show gets more exposure and everyone is happy.

[TargA]

Originally Posted by nirvAnA

some recommendations

PiG (aLt), jazboss (inFi)
Light (TA), yaaaang (TA)
HuT (aLt), iaguz (Hybrid)

Updated with affiliations in response to chad's comment

Looks like 2 aLt 2 TA and 1 hybrid to me! I don't get it lol same thing happened with the sc2sea Awards, when PiG won one and TA won like half of them a select few kept going on about how it was aLt biased.

I basically just looked at the tgm coach page as most of those guys have tons of coaching hours under their belt hence the experience with articulating their thoughts / strategy to mid range - lower level players and i thought they were suitable for the show.

I like how your list consists of 4 players that are barely top 30 in SEA.


Oh and completly off topic: Ive noticed lately that I have had a pretty consistant crowd that dislikes my post ( you know who you ***** are) and I have also noticed the difference in skill level and intelligence between the people that dislikes and likes my posts, and from that I wish to you that dislikes my post, get smarter.

kind regards Kristoffer "TargA" Marthinsen

and a ******* happy Norwegian constitutional day to you *****

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	TAminimat:	yep
	HuT:	settle down son.
	inFeZa:	happy norwayday.
	Bloodmyst:	Didn't realise it took an Einstien to rep.
	nirvAnA:	its recommendations for a masters talk show not a list of the best players lol
	mGGAequitas:	Is this the like button? i dunno I'm too stupid
	Mayo:	Kind regards, Christopher "Mayo" Smith
	ROOT`iaguz:	Happy Norway to you too man!
	Bash:	+1 for the anti-circlejerk movement
	UHF:	getting more & more disappointing
	Dox:	step over rex hunt, there's a new king of bait
	syfChadMann:	I don't want targa to think I'm stupid >.>
	Stallion:	how do u fit through doorways with that ego
	syfSoundwave:	Ease up, man. Wow.

[syfChadMann]

yoyo.. ease up guys..
tbh - nirv. I wasn't having a go at you about all aLt connection.. but it wouldn't be the 6 names I'd put forward as representatives of SEA after mOOnGLaDe... So I was a little confused at a few of your pics.. but I get what you mean about them being able to elaborate on the strategies and articulate themselves well...

Targa - people just want to cuddle and call each other awesome in this lovey dovey community - now that's not a bad thing.. but I can see how it sickens some personalities... And your sledge hammer approach to passing on your opinion (while it is a valued and often appropriate opinion) can sometimes be a little blunt for some people.

Back on topic - SEA needs exposure.. make it happen..

Also, Happy MF-ing Norway day yo.

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	Pox:
	NvRossi:	ease up mate
	TargA:	lol
	Bash:	the circlejerk continues.
	Stallion:	well said

[inFeZa]

AZKZeik is our best representative.

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HuT:

and Targa

[Bloodmyst]

Originally Posted by TargA

I like how your list consists of 4 players that are barely top 30 in SEA.


Oh and completly off topic: Ive noticed lately that I have had a pretty consistant crowd that dislikes my post ( you know who you ***** are) and I have also noticed the difference in skill level and intelligence between the people that dislikes and likes my posts, and from that I wish to you that dislikes my post, get smarter.

kind regards Kristoffer "TargA" Marthinsen

and a ******* happy Norwegian constitutional day to you *****

I think it's more the fact your coming across as an elitist prick.

Why do you feel the need to put down other players all the time? Insecurities? If anything, all you pros should be "working together" to get SEA on the map. I think you should get "smarter" instead of being an immature little brat and posting ignorant crap.

If you don't have anything good to say about anyone don't say it at all.

However, if you feel you have to continue putting other players down..... On ya bike, go back to Norway. SEA is better off without you.

kind regards "Bloodmyst"

P.S - I'm sorry if I offended you GrandMaster Targa.......

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	syfChadMann:	don't take Targa so seriously.. :P
	mGGAequitas:
	TASlowHands:	lol

[Meatex]

I think the three big Zerg's are TargA, Moonglade and PiG
Also Mafia
Ninja is good too
i dunno just take the top SEA players and chances are they are zerg cause everyone else seems to be ;P

[Nemo]

I don't think that talking to Targa like he talks to others are going to solve anything.

Originally Posted by TargA

Oh and completly off topic: Ive noticed lately that I have had a pretty consistant crowd that dislikes my post ( you know who you ***** are) and I have also noticed the difference in skill level and intelligence between the people that dislikes and likes my posts, and from that I wish to you that dislikes my post, get smarter.

Means : "You don't like what I say = You're less intelligent and have lesser skill than guys liking my posts."

Do you realise what you are saying, Targa, and how childish it looks ?

First, you can't judge people intelligence that easily without knowing them better. You only see glimpses of it. Secondly, are you that good at judging people to say such things about them ? In fact, what you are doing now is judging them on their SC2 skill and the fact that they find your post "cool" or smart or not. You couldn't be more wrong in doing that.

That's on the form. Now on the main subject. Being a bit harsh with people who comes here just to advertise their sites or product or team and especially not related to SEA is OK, but don't be contemptuous like that. Sometimes things might be different that they seem at first sight. And for example here, it could end up with good opportunity for SEA players or sc2sea.

Now more generally about "some" people disliking your posts lately : As I said to you a few months ago, you should lower the trolling and increase the help. Sc2sea is a popular community because many top players are keen to discuss with / help other guys of lower skill. They're not in here just to say "come and admire me".

You want to become pro ? You might think that being a bad boy is better when you see Idra. It's not. Idra whas that popular because he was the best American guy out there, not because he was a bad boy. Destiny, Catz, or other were from the team Root which was very popular. They also have excellent streams, streaming a ton and being quite entertaining. I think Destiny was one of the first commenting on his stream and definitly has the better graphic quality out there (he is also an excellent and very respectful teacher for his student, his coaching sessions were really excellent).

You must understand that e-sports lives thanks to the public. Casual players who accept to pay or watch commercials to watch progamers play and to interact with them. If you're not able to gain public support, you're going nowhere. And being contemptuous, never helping people, trashing your progamers colleagues might be seen cool by certain, it won't please the public.

You had the support of sc2sea people, you're wasting it just before leaving. That's really, really not smart.

I had always supported you as you know but those last posts and especially those about PiG really disappointed me. I hope you will change this recent new behaviour so you won't spoil your chances of a good progamer carrier that your skill could allow you.

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	nirvAnA:	This post is beautiful.
	Bloodmyst:	This why he's got the Mr Helpful sticker? :)
	mGGAequitas:
	Mayo:
	syfSoundwave:
	nGenLight:	Good post but, you gotta make the fatty work harder for his trolls, its getting too easy

[syfChadMann]

Originally Posted by Nemo

Idra what that popular because he was the best American guy out there

To be fair - Targa IS the best Norwegian player.. at least the best one living in SEA..

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nirvAnA:

That is exactly why he gets away with it imo. Imagine anyone else saying the stuff he says.

[|Erasmus|]

Noone is questioning TargA's intelligence or skill when they are questioning his attitude and elitist comments... Attacking those things in response to any criticism only leads to making that impression of him even more ingrained.

And chad, those comments can be funny, up to a point, but IMIO it goes well past that point when he blatantly poss that he hopes PiiG loses in a tourney he's competing in. Even if TargA feels he's a better player than PiG and deserves these oppurtunities, PiG has put a lot of effort into the community to be that guy that we all love right now. He shouldn't go hating because he hasn't done that, yet still wants to begrudge PiG everything hes; getting out of that right now.

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	nirvAnA:
	Bloodmyst:
	Pox:

[LGShaft]

Haha Targa is funny. Anyway, Alkresh is going live in 10. And btw, top 25 masters... I guess I'm an idiot He's GM. Multi-accounts FTW.