[TASlowHands]

Originally Posted by SQLTt.HuT

Everybody does it, they wake up, ready for a day packed of 1v1's and the idea that they'll add a few hundred points onto their ladder score. But, after you lose 3 in a row, all the while using strategies that you have utilised that have been successful in the past all seem worthless now.

As a question to the general populace of these forums, when you hit a barrier, whether it be psychological or skill based that negatively impacts your gameplan and ability to win games you have won in the same manner before, how do you work to overcome it? Do you stick to the same strategy and try to refine it, or do you decide that a build or tactic is obsolete and forget it all together?

Share your views!

I always try and stick with my strats, i had a roach hydra corruptor build in ZvP which had me at more than 70% at one point around the mid diamond level. I only drops strats when they are outright unviable, i dropped roach hydra corruptor as masters toss for the most part tear it up.

I believe so long as you are a decent player mechanically you can do any strategy, thats why I am very harsh on myself even when i win at times, for example i decide to 2 base all in but have 3 missed injects at the end of the game, I scold myself. The only barrier I hit are mechanically not strategically because im pretty flexible and good at altering my builds. I only really feel happy with a win when i play a bit better than my average, apm soaring, creep everywhere and the like. But really it all comes down to mechanics and good old fashioned practise

Op I think you would benefit from having practise partners that are better than you. I often play with TAsolid who has crazy good TvZ and it always pushes me apm and mechanic wise playing him and I can actually feel myself getting better, even if I lose. Try and find someone that is just that little bit better than you and get them to give you a real challenge. The problem with just ladder is you play the same level of opponents struggling with the same issues as you.

[zealous]

Originally Posted by Maynarde

1400 wins!

... Honestly though I'm not sure what you're asking here.

lol

i mean i have a friend who has much more ladder games than i am, but were both gold, can I say hes better because he has more ladder experience?

[MazEi]

Well if he played those extra games by 6 pooling/canon rushing/6 rax, then maybe not. But regardless, I think he would be more comfortable with the game compared to someone who's just played 5 games.

[ToRXypha]

Forgot all about this thread made it so long ago, back when i was in gold. yesterday i was promoted to Masters so i'd be safe to say i have come along way in improvement. next goal is GM

[framtidenskrig]

Originally Posted by ToRXypha

Forgot all about this thread made it so long ago, back when i was in gold. yesterday i was promoted to Masters so i'd be safe to say i have come along way in improvement. next goal is GM

Congratz man! Good luck with GM!

[framtidenskrig]

Originally Posted by OxygeN

There are of course both quantitative, and qualitative factors to knowing if your improving, and to quickly go through some of them,

Quantitative :
Higher win-rate.
Utilize most of your resources.
Building the counters to your opponent unit mix
Building sufficient production structures.

Qualitative :
You feel more confident vs a specific match-up,
Positioning your units better, (eg. maruders around marines, roaches infront of hydras)
Doing more harassment.
Losing less from harassment.

Hope this helps!

+1, well played

[studmuffin]

I just decided to start playing SC2 after owning it for a year, and i got the manual you have here. I'd like to be G1, but having to work all day, plus having other hobbies (like guitar), don't know if can be anything other than g2; however, hopefully with enough effort I can get good enough to not embarrassing

[Kairobot]

My brother doesn't play often, only like 2 ladder games each day and maybe a couple more on weekends but he got his 100 wins in 1v1 quite quickly and am already promoted from Silver to Bronze in a short time. I play less 1v1 and more team games and my learning is much slower compared to my brother who just mainly play 1v1, so all in all more laddering in 1v1 is a must if want to improve quicker.

[jtxgaming]

Originally Posted by Kairobot

he got his 100 wins in 1v1 quite quickly and am already promoted from Silver to Bronze in a short time.

Just wanted to say, silver to bronze is demotion <
But 1v1 seems to be the best way to improve imo, custom games help if you want to practise new builds and ladder for implementing those builds.

[Rage]

Originally Posted by studmuffin

I just decided to start playing SC2 after owning it for a year, and i got the manual you have here. I'd like to be G1, but having to work all day, plus having other hobbies (like guitar), don't know if can be anything other than g2; however, hopefully with enough effort I can get good enough to not embarrassing

Group 1 learning as Nirvana described it actually takes less actual time than Group 2 - you can play 5 games a day, spend 10 mins on the replay of each game, and get more benefit than playing 20 games for 5 hours without close analysis.

[x5.Stormz]

Originally Posted by FaNaTic

2 Thumbs UP for this article, enjoyed reading it thoroughly
Starcraft 2 - Secrets of the Masters

Kudos to all the pro gamers out there, they are the motivation & inspiration for the SC2 community

Just had a quick look at this guide. There goes my night of starcraft!

[zealous]

In line with nirvana's grp#1 learning as I have recalled in one seminar I attended highlights reflection as an important but neglected step in the process. Its not just about the "Do/Experience" its about what you will do after the experience