[|Erasmus|]

We should just make like 10 more awards and give them all to Eddie for being the only sensible person who has anything to do with starcraft.

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ToRSpartaz:

Yes. Mr Reliable #1

[SLCN.NXZ]

So first off I want to say that overall I think these awards are fine. If you want to do community awards, feel free to organise it yourself (do it, awards are always fun). But I will agree with some criticism.

Firstly, only ToR and mGG nominated when at least TCP could have a nomination. SEACL also happened this year, you could talk about how IXL or aLt did and etc. Obviously mGG and ToR are clearly leaps and bounds above but these things should be nominated right.

I like how player of the year was done. I think it's fair to rate Kingkong as the beast of 2013. I kinda feel like the rest is sort of a top 5, which again I think is pretty accurate. You could argue between 2-5 but I think it's giving respect to their achievements and that's cool.

Best pro team, should've talked about the other nominees but yes fray clearly wins. (You need the comparison though, that's what makes it consistent. Some awards have it, others don't). Underrated player, i think Ender and lobo are both fair, petrify? I don't know. Probably could've included a few more people if you wanted (this category is always going to be from a certain perspective though so whatever).

Rookie of the year, includes me, but doesn't include other players that had similar years to me. Where is pezz? Where is MK? I don't understand how you get into this award. By showing great potential when you haven't befoe hence rookie? I prefer last years category, most improved rookie. (Side note, fighto should probably be in underrated player although again that's from my pov).

Breakthrough tournament performance suggest there should be a tournament to go with it. Last year we saw pet at eswc, targa at gesc, ninja at acl Sydney and so on. This year we have... Literally nothing. Just a gif. Just. A. Gif. It should go something like last years. Show what they're nominated for, then have a description of why them at that particular peformance was a breakout. Then you can put the gif in a spoiler under winner and under the gif, NXZ at ACL Brisbane.

I enjoyed the awards I think they're really cool and I'm very happy to win one but when only one or two categories have worthwhile descriptions then it's pretty dumb. It should be a cool historical reference too. I can look back at last year and remember oh yeah ninja had that awesome run at acl Sydney, or pet was actually awful until like September .


Also If we want to do community awards, I don't see why we can't just set them up, I don't know how sc2sea polls work but you could use straw polls or whatever. To be honest I'm keen to go ask glade, kk, pig, pet and iaguz who their top 10 players are and go all kez up in this, because reading the power rank last year was FUN. Sure it made drama but I think it was a worthy addition.

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	ROOTPetraeus:	+1 for power rank thingy
	SLCN.Kez:	Time to get out my keyboard n start some powerank drama again
	ROCCAT_Savior:	did not read lol
	VB_Blake:	powerrrrrrrrrrank!

[Dox]

Where's my award for least number of chatbox lines in 2013? I worked hard for that, no recognition. What a joke.

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crAzerk:

i think i won that

[syfChadMann]

Gratz everyone, hope 2014 is filled with more great memories!

Try not to get your knickers in a knot. :-)

[Stallion]

Didnt pet get breakout performance last year? coming from my view point i actually think Alicia has some very valid points in terms of there should be some voting system BUT i also think if everyone got thier vote it would get skewed towards big clans favors. My suggestion is why not have Best Player of the year(or whatever award) voted by the mvps and mods or something then have a peoples choice. I mean more awards are more fun right? :P id like that anyway.

Just like to put i think Arnor still did a nice unbias award shout anyway tho. Im not sure if pet broke out 2013 or 2012 but feel it was late 2012 off memory. plus in the end game is dying anyway does it really matter that much :P

[SLCN.Kez]

I think the community holds people to way to high of a standard for any VOLUNTARY piece of work they do. People seem to think that the creators of things like this are trying to put in their 100% best effort and consider every single possibility and try to please everybody and have it as perfect as possible. I gotta yell ya, chances are Arnor did what he could be fucked doing, and theres absolutely nothing wrong with that.

I don't really know how to word this properly without sounding like a bit of an ass, but honestly, just because someone doesn't consider every bodies opinions or have a vote or does something the best possible way doesn't mean you all get to throw your 2 cents in. I know everybody is entitled to their opinion and giving constructive feedback is absolutely necessary in environments like this, but sometimes when all you do is give, it sucks an inordinate amount of testicles when people just complain that 1 award could have been done better, constructive feedback or not.

Chances are Arnor threw this together after being tired from work, tried to add a bit of humor in places (Personally I found the gif of nxz funny) and tried to do his best.

Also, apologies if other people helped, I really have no idea.

Tl;dr, people work hard outside of sc2 and when they volunteer to try and do something fun for the community don't bash them on it because in a few areas they could have done a better job

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	Stallion:	+9999999999999999999
	Dox:	hehe testicles
	SLCN.NXZ:	Yes this is awesome. Arnor done good. ^_^

[VoxMSI.Rogue]

In that case why not get people who CAN be bothered to do it? Or if you can't be bothered make its Arnors Awards and not an SC2SEA thing?

My entire point Kez was that other people volunteer here too, they are asked to donate, run tournaments etc yet when it comes to something like this they have 0 say about it. It lacks the community feel and seems last minute, rushed and unfinished.

I will always put my opinion, you don't have to agree but the entire point of a forum is to open discussion. In the past these awards were well done and well researched and put together, if Arnor doesn't have time to do it perhaps he needs to pass onto someone who will? I personally always looked forward to these because they were unbiased and well put together.

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MezjE:

sigh rofl

[syfChadMann]

Originally Posted by ArcMSi.Rogue

In that case why not get people who CAN be bothered to do it? Or if you can't be bothered make its Arnors Awards and not an SC2SEA thing?

My entire point Kez was that other people volunteer here too, they are asked to donate, run tournaments etc yet when it comes to something like this they have 0 say about it. It lacks the community feel and seems last minute, rushed and unfinished.

I will always put my opinion, you don't have to agree but the entire point of a forum is to open discussion. In the past these awards were well done and well researched and put together, if Arnor doesn't have time to do it perhaps he needs to pass onto someone who will? I personally always looked forward to these because they were unbiased and well put together.

Please put up your own awards then, with your opinion or the researched views of many. I love seeing people be congratulated for their efforts. I must say, I agree with most of the winners, maybe a few more mentions of success are due, but overall thanks Arnor for doing it.

If you want to have something more objective then please, by all means, do it.

[Blysk]

I just wanna say.. Hi guys.
Rogue's just being straightforward, can't blame her for it. There can be improvements to the awards to be more specific, elaborate etc etc. But still Much props to anor to have wrote it at all, it's true he didnt have to and yet still spent time on this so he should be gettin credit not hate!
And yes to kez we should get power ranks again fun stuff.

All in all i want to accept on behalf of Kingkong his player of the year award, he's not here today to accept it. Im sure he wants to thank my parents, friends and fans for their support thank you all and all the best for 2014 sc2sea and sc2 fighting GAME IS ALIVE BITCH IT'S NOT DED F U HUT

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	syfChadMann:	#FuckingHuT
	SLCN.Petrify:	#WouldLoveToBangHut
	Dox:	#HuTFucker2014
	HuT:	ded
	FLuX:	#CarpetBurnsWithHuT

[SLCN.Petrify]

Originally Posted by x5_NXZ

Underrated player, i think Ender and lobo are both fair, petrify? I don't know..

Everybody agrees on lobo and enderr being underrated therefore i should have won the most underrated award, i got jibbed, i'm basically the Di Caprio of SEA tbh, brb creating my own awards

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	syfChadMann:	ahh the irony of rating the 'under-rated' the loser is really the winner?!
	Blysk:	i thought i'd win... i'm underrated! :(
	SLCN.Kez:	No everybody knows youre amazing blysk
	Dox:	hahah i appreciate the di caprio comparison

[JoFritzMD]

**** this. Rigged awards. Tor best clan sea. Spook best player sea.

#boycottsc2sea #lynchirvana #spookforpresident #torboiz4lyfe

[iM tgun]

This thread sucks, clearly I deserved best retirement.

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syfSoundwave:

I got 'Most Feels' from your retirement. :(

[NvRossi]

Best retirement is the most competitive category!

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MezjE:

hahaha holy shit

[MezjE]

That dummy spit over petronious not getting an award lol

Where was Soundwave's award for best brony?

**** you arnor wow ask for our votes or this game will keep dying how dare you do something yourself to try and generate some hype and reason for positive discussion, next time please ask for everyone's opinion ******* hell!!!!!!!!!

[ToRSpookToR]

Originally Posted by JoFritzMD

**** this. Rigged awards. Tor best clan sea. Spook best player sea.

#boycottsc2sea #lynchirvana #spookforpresident #torboiz4lyfe

Finally some ******* sense in this thread.

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Dox:

hahaha ilu

[TtSYF.tRoy]

Originally Posted by ToRSpookToR

Finally some ******* sense in this thread.

The community is revived.

[ToR.Sleepycod]

We could have separate award categories next time? - leadership/admin/veteran nominated and then a general community nominated!

Muchos fun would be had!

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Dox:

CRAAAAAAAAAAZY

[nGenLight]

How do people know what I do these days? WTF.

The NBA Power rankings is something that is kept up to date by one or two authors.

The NBA Awards is voted in by media representatives. If you want a voting system but don't want it to be a popularity contest, you simply gather 10VIPs to vote rather then the entire community. This was done for the Power Rankings of 2012, which was supposed to be objective, but the author made it somewhat subjective anyway(and made Mafia quit). Whilst you can appreciate these authors for taking their own time to entertain us with these articles, but I'm sure there are people who wish they could use their free time to do this article differently and in their own way, and argue the accuracy of the merits that are not entirely objective.

However to be completely objective you'd need someone like UHF to composed detailed stats to find the "true" winners of these awards. But that's kinda lame, I say you just get Anor, Nirvana, Eddie, Maynarde, Dox, Chadmann etc to vote and not be allowed to vote for players in their own team etc.