[ToRLuneth]

Thanks for the advice ^_^ had more success with PvP today alone than I have in the last 3 days combined

Macro is hard x.x

[mGGPrometheus]

Hi, could someone give me some help with this replay?

It is TvT on Ohana. I open 1rax FE into Bio while my opponent opens 1/1/1 Siege Tank + Banshee. I use my natural orbital's first scan and upon seeing the tech lab on the factory and tech lab on starport, I have no doubt what is coming. I set up turrets in each mineral line, and get ready to intercept the army as it comes across the map.

Despite pulling SCVs, I still get steamrolled. I have no idea how to deal with this kind of push out of a Bio opening. I can't just bunker up because with the help of banshees my opponent can keep pushing. I can't actually defend until I have both siege tanks and vikings which are a long way away, and even if I do somehow defend I'll be hard-contained. What do?


http://drop.sc/304368

Thanks

[ToRRedemption]

Originally Posted by mGGTitan

Hi, could someone give me some help with this replay?

It is TvT on Ohana. I open 1rax FE into Bio while my opponent opens 1/1/1 Siege Tank + Banshee. I use my natural orbital's first scan and upon seeing the tech lab on the factory and tech lab on starport, I have no doubt what is coming. I set up turrets in each mineral line, and get ready to intercept the army as it comes across the map.

Despite pulling SCVs, I still get steamrolled. I have no idea how to deal with this kind of push out of a Bio opening. I can't just bunker up because with the help of banshees my opponent can keep pushing. I can't actually defend until I have both siege tanks and vikings which are a long way away, and even if I do somehow defend I'll be hard-contained. What do?

http://drop.sc/304368

Thanks

I think it is really hard defending that kind of 1/1/1 push with 1 rax fe. Especially with the one you used, what i like to do if i want to 1 rax fe is scout if they take gas with the first scouting scv. I then follow up with a double gas delayed 1/1/1 and get those tanks and vikings out asap. You also need a bunker and repair with about 6-8 scvs for a while to delay the push. You still need the turrets and you would have 1 reactor rax to run the banshees away as much as possible.

The 1 rax fe into 3 rax opening is harder with tanks but easier with banshees, you need to get siege tanks and siege mode as fast as possible, if you scouted the tank push get the factory out as fast as possible to form a line so they cant just keep pushing, all the while working on your viking on the time being and stop banshees as much as possible with your marines. Ill edit more once i watch the replay, but yeah thats just what i like to do . Personally i llike the 1/1/1 follow to 1 rax fe anyway because of the tank count you are competeing with when they 1/1/1.


Edit: Yeah so as i thought yours was a variation of the 3 rax marine medivac build, it is extremely hard to hold off pushes with that build, you have to pull scvs and catch them unsieged like you tried and get maruaders and try hit in more of a concave. The alternative is doing what i sugggested above and do a 1 rax fe into 1/1/1 then adding the 2 rax after when you have money. With this build i forgot to mention you also want a few more turrets then what you build in that game because you dont have enough marines. The viking should come out at around 6:30 when you dont get it an add on. Siege tech and siege tanks is done by the time that timing happens cos he hit at around 9, that is plenty of time for you to get at least a tank or two out plus the bunker is always there so you can hold position scvs around it and delay with auto repair for a very long time because they can not just run up the ramp and the high ground advantage is very powerful.

Response to titan: Yeah bio expands aren't the best but going the 1/1/1 after 1 rax fe is pretty good then you can add your 2 rax after that and still get the same kind of bio mixture only your bio force is a little more small same with your medivacs, but you have a higher tank count.

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mGGPrometheus:

Thanks Redemption, so I'm thinking going bio expand vs gas opening might not be good

[Annie]

i acut need help on hots now stragey's for zvt zvp

[ToRRedemption]

Hi, so i played a tvz on newkirk district. I struggled engaging the zerg so instead tried the pull the zerg apart with multi prong attacks. I felt like i started to win when suddenly i ran out of money and lost some big engagements.

Its a 51 minute game, but i need help on where i went wrong because i feel like i did all i could.
This is a mid master NA game.

Newkirk District.SC2Replay

thank you

EDITh sorry guys i reattatched the right replay

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mGGAequitas:

wrong replay? this a 26 minute 4 player game

[mGGAequitas]

Originally Posted by ToRRedemption

Newkirk District.SC2Replay

so gonna skip the first 30 minutes

ok so you seem to be in a decent position, quite a lot more income than him and about even army. a lot of under saturation on your gases, some geysers even have none.

You have max energy on all your orbitals which isnt too good and you have 67 scvs: bring scvs with your army to kill some off so you can redistribute the supply that they are wasting into stronger units. especially since you are oversaturated on minerals (even if you properly saturated the gases)

your harass seems to be doing well and are about to take out his hive and could have taken out his greater spire if you shift clicked it or checked on that drop. so I'd say you are in a decent spot.

32 minutes you lose all ur shit to a few fungals. when you are just idle with your army presplit them to avoid that
34 minutes you lose all ur shit again to a few fungals. If you aren't confident with spliting well use a lot less marines in your composition or do a lot more drops with your marines, his main and natural are practically undefended and a 3 medivac drop of marines would take out all his important tech.
36 minutes massive fungal landing on all ur shit again
37 minutes (and throughout) ur drop at the bottom base does nothing because you don't control it properly, you can't just unload and forget you have to make sure you do something with them. this happens a lot for you.

40 minutes your army composition is a lot marauders and so you can't actually kill what he has. don't just keep the marauders sitting there killing broodlings, charge them into his base he had nothing to stop you from killing the base at bot and his natural during that engagement.

44 minutes OUCH! like i said before about marines and fungals

now i think u've lost

so to summarise a few things:
1. learn to split or don't go so marine heavy (in your main army comp, for multi prong drops marines are good)
2. Pay attention to your drops and acutally do damage with them instead of half killing a hatch half killing a geyser and half killing a spine crawler. Also you can drop with more then one medivac, 2x2medivac drops simultaneously would do a lot more damage then a single medivac here then another one over there a few minutes later.
3. split better
4. kill ur lazy ass scvs and replace them with F***** BATTLECRUISERS!!!!! or marines or wateva
5. your splits could do with a bit of work
6. use ur energy for mules and scans to see his bases/defenses/army position/army composition
7. maybe some ghosts so you can emp his infestors and don't have to worry about splitting

i think i touched on a few important things, i kinda write down stuff as i go along in the replay so it may be a bit hard to understand, sorry about that
hope it helps. feel free to ask me if you don't understand what im talking about

[ToRRedemption]

Thanks aquitas, it seems my main trouble is micro. but after 30 minutes i tried sending at least 2 drops on at a time, so i was really stretched on multitasking so my micro wasnt as good. So i guess i gotta work on multi tasking and focusing on main battle rather then drops, cos if you saw the first 20 minutes you would maybe see better micro cos i was able to focus, but yeah thanks i know to work on engagements now.

[mGGPrometheus]

TvZ on Daybreak. Dude goes max roach, any tips on how to stay alive with a mech opening?

http://drop.sc/308375

[exan]

Hey guys..

Edit: Don't worry about feedback for this now, with HotS out a few things have changed..

http://www.sc2sea.com/replays.php?do=viewreplay&id=2207

Here is a ZvT from tonight, I feel I should have crushed him with my first attack and finished him with my reinforcements but he just turtled into too many chokes and had tanks on the high ground cleaning up. Some of those siege tanks had over 30 kills.

It's frustrating to play against.

I probably didn't do the best follow up and should have continued to deny his third/4th and just tried to outlast him economically but I thought I had a lead, which I probably didn't. What could I have done differently to win this game? Broodlord transition would have probably been good since he had so many tanks and marauders but then he would have just drop harassed his way to victory.

Any feedback/suggestions? I really struggle against opponents who turtle/sim city this much and play so defensively.

Here's my thoughts:
- More infestors, fungal his clumped up guys on the ramp to get into his main and do damage to production.
- Overlords/Overseers with the army to get vision of the high ground, and research NP to steal tanks and use them against him.
- Should have gone for third instead of natural and just kept going for third and got mutas earlier to deal with the tanks on the high ground.
- Defence around my minerals to protect from drop harass

Thanks.

[eCKo`Tazerenix]

Hey guys,

http://drop.sc/323625

Mid-high masters PvT on Newkirk.

I'm fairly passive in the mid game due to his position which makes it difficult to engage against tanks around his bases. In the late game though I just can't do anything. If I try make anything but tempests his Ravens are able to Hunter Seeker Missle instantly and my high templar can never get close enough to feedback or storm due to tanks underneath and if I make tempests he uses PDD to block shots.

On top of that, my army is immobile and he uses nukes everywhere to stop me from pushing and he has unlimited money (probably due to me being passive mid game but I pretty well thought I'd lose if I tried to attack into his third).

My best shot at breaking him was probably around 180 supply with 11 immortals but even at that point he had Ravens on the way and was making use of sensor towers and chokes.

Also losing 4 High templar to hellions probably wasn't my greatest moment.

Halp!

[ToRPandarine]

I was told not to post wins but I just had a game that was a lil bit too close for comfort...ie I could have lost if my opponent decided to just go all out on me or went air...is it okay if I post the replay anyways?

[mGGAequitas]

Originally Posted by ToRTazerenix

http://drop.sc/323625

The problem seems to be that you are way too passive.
Being passive is fine up to a certain point. Like the point when you are maxed out and just sitting there doing nothing. You have to do some harass, some zealot runby's across the top maybe a warp prism into his main or whatever. Especially against seige tanks. You can't just build up a 200/200 army and then smash it into a seige line and hope he breaks. Because it's rarely going to be the case.
Your opponent does a good job of harassing late game with the nukes and the hellions before that.
You sorta tried to harass with a warp rpism eventually but got shut down coz he has ringed his base in turrets. so why not send a warp prism or 2 to clear it? you can push along the other side of the map with the rest of your army. His army is all aoe so multiprongs and harass will be especially beneficial to you.
Throughout the entire game there are always attack paths along which you could just send a tonne of zealots to cause some havoc around his base. and as i said because of his army comp this will leave his army vulnerable to attack.
The terran was in control 100% this entire game you just sat there and took it the entire game without dishing it back out to him. you were barely ever on his side of the map while he was constantly hitting you with nukes while he slowly pushed forward with pdd seige tank which doesn't seem easy to break when it is all in one spot so you have to split up his army with harass and multiprongs.

[lolwut]

http://www.sc2sea.com/replays.php?do=viewreplay&id=2224 ZvP

Me playing a Masters player on the Korean server. Can't seem to deal with toss air ZvP :'(. One thing I did notice was that I thought I had hydralisk range the whole game but I actually didn't

[s2ne1]

hey guys,

TvP, Gold league SEA
im finding it extremely hard to fend off the first push by protoss, need some advice on how to fend it off comepletely.


replay:
1. https://www.dropbox.com/s/x1ph3mmh9t...2%29.SC2Replay

2. https://www.dropbox.com/s/fhaa3awm40...20LE.SC2Replay

[AceWing]

http://drop.sc/344163

ok so my first mistake was on the suicide mission, mainly because i cant really tell that the rocks were blocking my attack path ( ><)

But, what army composition should I deal with this protoss player? Colo + archons and zealot mix tears down my army

Anyone else can point out my other mistakes?

[mGGAequitas]

mainly macro problems early on, floating hard, supply blocks.
forget upgrades for ages.
pretty poor mechanics you should work on them, you spend a lot of time scrolling around

you need more medivacs
more vikings
less marines more marauders. your army is too squishy and gets owned so quickly by stim and colos

you are floating sooooooooooooo much. being maxed isnt an excuse to float 6k/3k
you can split up your army and trade some of your units for some damage. kinda like what you did at 23 minutes. just not with your entire army. because once you lose 20 marines or wateva for a nexus and some probes you can quickly spend your money to remax a bit of your army but not your whole army.
so trading some of your army is important. it allows you to actually spend your bank.

you don't have map presence. you just sit back until you deem it time to smash your army into him. try and have some units around the place to see whats up.

and then you get starved out because your playing too defensvely. thats another reason to have hit squads running around killing shit. it forces your opponent on the defensive so you can safely take expansions.

im kinda tired so im sorry if it doesn't make much sense. if you have any questions or want clarification on anything just ask. i'm always happy to help

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ZeN:

Good Guy Aequitas

[Malice]

I'm pretty keen to get this thread rolling again. I took a big break from posting here since HotS came out, and now I feel like I have the knowledge to be able to help out a bit. Get posting replays, and I'll try my best to get a response as soon as possible.

I'm sure others are happy to help out too!

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RuineD:

roccet

[DarKcS]

Go go go zergs!

awaits

[Ice714]

Terran < Gold

I am having great success against Terran and Protoss, my build orders are working and I have multiple options when it comes to game time.

When I play against Zerg I pretty much cannot defeat lings and banes with Bio, never.

I always lose and I keep practising it as much as possible because at the moment it's my only problem, I can beat Zerg with Mech most of the time but I am still working on that personally and I feel confident enough to fix that problem myself.

So

http://drop.sc/352236

What am I doing so wrong? I did mess my build a little I usually have quicker Helions to begin with and get my starport faster so I can drop and try to deny the 3rd.

Thanks!

[ace223]

I know this is quite a nerco-post but i was wondering if any of the nice fellows of SC2SEA would analise my replay for me?
I have been having quite the win streak the last week and feeling as if i am playing well, but i still want to know what i am doing wrong. I am a bronze player, so don't expect any EXTREME 300APM game. I did however watch this myself and notice a few small points, like supply blocks and my dreaded habbit of grouping all my units to 1 hotkey, but i am working on those too.

http://www.mediafire.com/?0bw40ve5v0tb7v4

Thank you greatly