[ETL.ViTaL]

[dippa]

ABC left-wing bias ... ugh.

every time i hear this it's never been supported by the evidence.

[dippa]

Originally Posted by Haza

Yes the ABC is biased and if you've seen The Drum forums... very very biased in favour of the left.

i disagree with the first premise (most other stations wouldn't bother giving gerard henderson or piers akerman air time, their grovelling is puerile at times) but definitely agree with the second. keep in mind a majority of journalists tended to be in the middle or left of politics anyway.

the drum = centre-left
crikey = slightly more centre-left (bernard keane's stuff is still worth reading though)
the punch = centre-right
national times = centre but slight leaning one way or the other depending on the individual journalist (peter hartcher more towards the right, lenore taylor slightly to the left for example)
the conversation = centre-left

there are actually very few sites/publications that lean totally one way or the other (larry pickering, for example, would obviously be towards the far right and the nsw greens somewhere left of stalin)

just as a reference for anyone who's interested

[Haza]

Good to see some attention coming me, a new member of these forums, this is my first thread I've talked in, on SC2SEA. I'll try to get back to as many of you as possible. Thanks

Originally Posted by nicknack

"it is likely that between 96 and 99 percent of asylum applicants arrived by air." source - http://www.aph.gov.au/binaries/libra...sylumfacts.pdf

Atleast you had the heart to admit that you made up the statistic

Originally Posted by TABjornbrandr

I'd hardly call the ABC a station that facilitates for extremist views. You do realise that as a public station it's required to be as impartial as possible.

Yes but:
ALP= Pro public sector spending
LNP= Anti-public sector spending
Conflict of interest.
I hope you like my totally reasonable conspiracy theory.

@Dippa
Ok, I never said the ABC itself was extremist, it is however the most accommodating for the left wing and thus in terms of media as a whole attracts the majority of people from the left and beyond.

Originally Posted by dippa

the drum = centre-left

This for example, The Drum itself isn't extremist, but there is a lot of people on those forums who intend to rant on anyone not affiliated with their views.. and the Drum (part of the ABC) allows this to occur within their website.

[ToR.Arnor]

Originally Posted by Haza

Atleast you had the heart to admit that you made up the statistic

He means overstayers/ planes makes up 95+% of illegal immigrants (plane asylum seekers are still way higher than boat)


Lol It isnt made up here are various articles I found supporting nicknacks statement (which is indeed a fact)


http://www.thepunch.com.au/articles/...boat-arrivals/

http://www.news.com.au/national-old/...-1225790981775

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/illega...-1226200568050

http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/pol...0606-xn3u.html

http://www.sbs.com.au/news/radio/epi...rstayers-FECCA (it mentions 100,000 VISA over stayers, an inflated figure because it doesnt factor in the fact around half of those are caight out within a fornight vsing the 2000-4000 of 'boat people' the other articles mention, still it makes the case)

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/o...-1226201799725

http://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2011...w-boat-people/

And plenty more article available yo

[Haza]

Originally Posted by Arnor@CityHunter

He means overstayers/ planes makes up 95+% of illegal immigrants (plane asylum seekers are still way higher than boat)

Nah he said 95% and then went on to quote something around 96-99%. You're not him to determine what 'he means' and even if you were you misquoted a statistic.

Idk why asylum seekers are relevant to the topic of Tony Abbott getting slammed by the ABC on the carbon tax.

[TABjornbrandr]

Originally Posted by Haza

Nah he said 95% and then went on to quote something around 96-99%. You're not him to determine what 'he means' and even if you were you misquoted a statistic.

Idk why asylum seekers are relevant to the topic of Tony Abbott getting slammed by the ABC on the carbon tax.

Because if you actually watch the video you'll see that Tony Abbot is also asked about asylum seekers.

[ikki]

Originally Posted by Haza

Atleast you had the heart to admit that you made up the statistic

How is the statistic made up?

Originally Posted by Haza

Nah he said 95% and then went on to quote something around 96-99%. You're not him to determine what 'he means' and even if you were you misquoted a statistic.

Idk why asylum seekers are relevant to the topic of Tony Abbott getting slammed by the ABC on the carbon tax.

It was actually ZizLah who said 95%come by plane I only backed him up with the stats.