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Originally Posted by PeleusSPR

Taking out of this, it seems that a rule which measures games over 2-3 seasons would be good. Intense activity doesn't seem to be as important as consistent activity. I don't think the amount of games should matter hugely (make in reasonable yet highish) ie 100-150, but really would you ever say 200 is 'participating' and 150 isn't? Don't forget finally we also want them to play on KR ladder, they can't be expected to take extreme requirements and push people alway because they don't devote 100% of their time here, we just want it to be preventative of 'hit and ring' style problems.

That is the problem with objective measures like this. What is enough? I believe that you have to go overboard to ensure that you keep out the people that are just interested in the tournaments. Consistent activity is the key, but the number still needs to be high to ensure that it is not consistent but just enough to get into the tournaments.

The issue that people have with systems like this is the players that play 100 games exactly just so they can enter the tournament and never play on the server again. If you increase it to 200 or 250 then these players will just play the extra games. If you force them to be consistent over a period of time they are more likely to be part of the community participating on ladder instead of getting to the arbitrary limit and then stopping.

Originally Posted by Rage

For example, if we have a 100 games requirement, and a Korean nobody has heard of or spoken to joins, say, Nerve, and plays his 100 games and then uses that to compete in every SC2SEA event from then on without doing any more ladder games, I think that the admins need the power to say "I don't CARE if you technically met the requirements, you are obviously not interested in participating in this community and so you are barred from entry."

This is a very dangerous system and I personally would not advocate it. This would mean that you add subjectiveness to an objective measure. This is one of the reasons why the objective measure needs to be so high.

I am curious though, enough that I'll skim through the rest of this thread, where are the opinions of the players that this decision will affect? If they are not present in the discussion do they want to be a part of the community or do they just want to know if they are allowed to come and win our league?