[fray`Alpha]

*At the request of nirvana I will be posting this evidence that has been collected about the mGG fake sc2sea account, Blog and Reddits in this private forum so that you (the admins/mods of sc2sea) can determine the right corse of action without making this another big public drama. If the sc2sea staff do decide to make this public in any form, we request that one of staff/mods/admins (of sc2sea) are the ones to post it, however if this is the coarse of action please message either my self or mGGDrGooSe first, until then we would like this to remain private. We are trying to handle this in the best responsible way possible. As well as posting in this forum this report is also being sent to IXLRunamok, the leader of IXL, so that he may investigate himself, and answer any questions that arise. Thank you for the help in dealing with this situation.

Leader of Meta-Game Gods
mGGAlpha (aka Ali) *


Ok, I begin this by saying that we got a ton of info so I will try and arrange all of them so it’s all readable and comprehensible. Please bear with me if I reuse images or say the same thing twice as I’m just trying to make sure that we get all the info down that we have found.

So to begin with last night at 12:39 am on the 31/12/2012 (sc2sea/sg time) a blog was made:

http://imgur.com/zUz4C

The blog itself is not too harmful. However,

1. It was created by someone who is not a member of mGG (mGGSoSick), and
2. Leads people to an mGG subredit (that was created by this mGG impersonator or friend) called mGGCirclejerk :
http://www.reddit.com/r/mGGcirclejerk/.

Having a look at this Subredit (I believe that’s what they are called? I don’t use reddit.) other posts were made:

1. http://www.reddit.com/r/mGGcirclejer..._to_all_of_us/

2. http://www.reddit.com/user/mGGSoSick

Looking through these blogs we believe there might be at least 3 (though very possibly more) people are involved.

1. PulSe/ IEpwoq :

*PulSe has since admitted to Runamok that he was involved*

PulSe is the person we have the most concrete evidence against so far. Take notice that on all the pieces of evidence we have to show PulSe it contains the same capitalization and the same numbers (312). As I said at the start there is a fair bit of information coming from different people so I will try and arrange it here, and will try not to repeat myself too much. I will first show that the creator of the subreddits name is PulSe312:

http://i.imgur.com/sK0Hz.png

This name rang a bell to us for a couple reasons first off, Pulse had applied to join mGG some time ago stating that he used a different tag on sea server (IEpwoq) :

http://imgur.com/VHpMj

Also because the Caster (IXLRunaMoK) for Friday night’s clan war between mGG and IXL had constantly referred to IEpwoq as Pulse. (Apparently his bnet name on Kr is Pulse) This player did very successfully knocking out 3 players of ours before being knocked out. During his games there were 2 spectators in the chat, whose names both began with Dan* (though finished with other letters that we cannot recall). These 2 spectators were only around during Pulse's games, and were EXTREMELY bad mannered to mGG members and abusing us before they were banned. One of these guys even claimed he was suppose to be playing vs mGG but might not need to do so. I have no hard evidence that these 2 are the other 2 people involved though we suspect that they are the 2 people posting on the subreddit (which I will go into more details later).

mGG vs IXL clan war thread: http://www.sc2sea.com/showthread.php?t=6706

The timing that the blog by mGGSoSick on sc2sea had been posted, directly correlates with the time that the subreddit was posted (both within the hour of each other).
Sc2sea user IXLPulSe and mGGSoSick (the user made to create the blog) logged off at exactly the same time on sc2sea, that is at 3:41am on the 31st of December. Pretty damn coincidental.
Lastly we made the connection between Pulses accounts on sc2sea : Was PulSe312 is now IXLPulSe, which has the signature that links to his twitch account : http://www.twitch.tv/PulSe312. And of course the connection can be made between his sc2sea, his twitch, his twitter and his reddit using the same name, punctuation and numbering.

2. Ruined

Ruined left a message in the blog chat saying “well it's definitely not me I learned my lesson many a time.” Through some investigation of the IXL members streams we have found that ruined was indeed involved, names Malice as one of the people possible involved (this is important due to both Malice and Ruined being involved in the game against Light that will be talked about later). This evidence was obtained watching IXLSaviours Stream where you can quite clearly see the IXL Skype chat where ‘Benny-Chan’ makes a quote from Jacko ‘Ruined’ Wood. This quote reads:

Malice
make new acct on sc2sea
make blog
post subreddit on blog
???????
profit
- Jacko ‘RuineD’ Wood, Today 00:21

We would like to point out that this not only involves RuineD directly, but also shows that many members of IXL new of this happening as it was being discussed in their skype chat.

Screenshot : http://imgur.com/TV4sU
Stream link: http://www.twitch.tv/savior777/b/352644301 at 0:13:37


3. Wrigleys:

Wrigleys was one of the contributors to this though not making any impersonation attempts to be mGG has posted in this subreddit:

http://www.reddit.com/r/mGGcirclejer..._only_for_mgg/

http://imgur.com/FEVP7

(The author has deleted their name since then but luckily this screen shot was taken earlier)
By following onto his name and looking at his profile:

http://www.reddit.com/user/wrigleys

we can see that:
He is (NA account)a Master Zerg with the gametag : DrunkTaco.810.
We are not sure what his SEA Servers name is yet.
But that link will show that he is Hong Kong Chinese living in Australia. And even posted a photo of himself on his readit: http://imgur.com/gallery/S7KXr/new (not the most helpful photo but I find it funny that he post that on the internet.)

4. Red-John:

http://www.reddit.com/r/mGGcirclejerk

Once again not a particularly mean or damaging thread, however it is also posted in the mGGcirclejerk subreddit and is THE post that was linked to in the blog by mGGSoSick on sc2sea.

So once again following the name from this thread: http://i.imgur.com/sK0Hz.png we are lead to Red-Johns reddit: http://www.reddit.com/user/red-john.

From this we are once again unable to find a in game name, but through reading through the post it states he is in (a very hot part of) Australia, Presumably plays Terran (lots terran disscussions while none for Protoss or Zerg) and states in the Infeza observing thread, that he is a Kiwi.

5. mGGLightFanboy (reddit account)

http://www.reddit.com/user/mGGLightFanboy

So once again this is not a real mGG member and could be any one including the people mentioned above (or someone else completely). Looking at the thread:

http://www.reddit.com/r/mGGcirclejer..._to_all_of_us/

Lightfanboy makes a reference to ‘He only loses when he isn't prepared for the build.’ In reference to something that light said in a game which he played with ruined that was observed by glazed, krnx, taeja, mGGLiquid, mGGTitan, Pharaoh, Malice, IXLsyntox (who also played in the clan war), pow, mGGxJieun, mGGSaiyan and iomega. All of these observers are either
A. mGG members. B. people who have been participating In our public channel or C. Members of IXL

As PulSe was not observing in this game, it seems to suggest the possibility of multiple members of IXL involved with this OR the innocent spectators who might have shared this part of the convo with their teammates and/or friends.

As some of you may know, Light has recently joined mGG as an honorary member. Through these reddits he too has been specifically pointed out through lines such as:
• “I bet protoss will win because Light is so gosu! I wish he would let me nibble on his dick.”
• “Light is so good! He only loses when he isn't prepared for the build. I wish he would give me his autograph and let me nibble on his dick”

We feel strongly against these lines (though from obvious trolls) as we do not want such remarks to threaten to hurt the relationships with the strong players of this community that we have been hoping to build.


Summary :
So all in all we are 100% sure that the PulSe312 that started this subreddit is the same Pulse from IXL who also plays under the tag IEpwoq on the SEA server.

We know that some members of IXL are involved and that this was discussed in their Skype chat before the blogs and reddits had been made.

We believe there are a number of people involved in this Subreddit.

We also believe that at least one other member from IXL is involved due to the reference to Light's game as well as the 2 trolls during the clan war's streaming (one of them mentioning that he was suppose to be in the lineup but might not need to play if IEpwoq all kills).


We ask this list of people below remains private if the thread does go Public to make sure that we do not face any sort of back lash (such as Rossi and Mafia have)

Credit for all evidence/detective work goes to:
• mGGNemesis
• mGGTitan
• mGGThoth
• mGGAlpha (aka Ali)
• iVnDomo
• mGGFender

[nirvAnA]

You must know that there will definitely be some form of "backlash" - that is out of our control. There always is for these sort of announcements, so be prepared for it. The reason why there was so much negativity in mafia/rossi's case was because they were wrongly accusing someone of hacking without concrete evidence and they created a shit storm only to find out that he was not hacking but was actually a korean pro.

I don't see much backlash in this case tho it seems u guys really did ur homework and the public will be able to see that.

[fray`Alpha]

Yeah Its more so just for avoiding specific members of mGG being targeted. We will be prepared for the back lash. Runamok has responded to me saying :

ok well pulse has been delbt with and treating it as a internal issue.
[5:57:37 PM] Josh Mcmillan: his been suspended from clanwars untill further notice.
[5:58:05 PM] Josh Mcmillan: ruined and malice have been talked to any revealed no connection. thye may have known about the post but arnt not responsible
[5:58:20 PM] Josh Mcmillan: i will talk to pulse further and will work on a public apoligie.

However I am in the process of getting a chat log where Malice refers to himself as 'Lights biggest Fan boy'. So if I can get a hold of that I think that heavily indicates that that is his reddit acount.

Sorry if we are over doing it, but we want to be through making sure we dont miss any details, and that these people are held responsible.

A big thank you to all the sc2sea staff that help us with this.

[ToRSpartaz]

I know IXL, their players will band together and there could be some ramification, but I don't think that the leaders of the legion community will stand for this, it is too harmful for what they are trying to achieve.

To be perfectly honest I still want to understand why they would go to these kinds of lengths to even attempt to harm mGG's reputation. I guess they have that to answer for at least...

Yeah that is wise to keep those involved anonymous, better for them to save any abuse ><

[fray`Alpha]

This chat was given to me by mGGLiquid who was spectating the game between Light and Ruined.

5:31 Malice: i am light fanboy i follow him all day every day he very good player

6.06 IXLsyntox: does anyone know the next event light is going to i want to get his autograph

7:20 iomega: mafia so many points

7:21 iomega: so little wins

7:39 Malice: i heard mafia wintraded to get all those points


I want to bring attention to Malice saying he is Lights fan boy and Syntox asking for lights autograph. I personally believe that both these players are directly involved now, though still no 100% evidence to prove it. So I will leave that up to you guys to judge/determine their involvement.

EDIT:

I have now got the chat log from the game, but it is 5000 words on word and goes for 27 pages so I wont post it here just yet. there is alot of BM between mGG and mGG members. there is some back and forth BM between mGG and IXL members (though very little) the most relevent thing to note about the chat is what has been posted, the reference to being light fan boy. asking for light signature, and talking about mafia win trading and being a bad player. (all of which was said in the http://www.reddit.com/r/mGGcirclejer..._to_all_of_us/ reddit )

[mGGNemesis]

I find some similarity in the new info (chat) with the reddit one. If you put both side by side, it is disturbingly familiar.

We are open to feedback and/or suggestions as to the best way to deal with this as well.

EDIT : I know the mGG guys are having some bm fun trolling each other. The guys in mGG know I frown upon some of these when carried too far. (Hence the nickname 'nembot' *sigh* amongst other comments I know they make when they think I'm out of sight :P) I have spoken to the 2 members who have carried their jokes too far. But I do know they mean no harm and are really nice people.

However, I do know they stood up for mafia when the issue about the win trading and whether he was a good player was mentioned.

Quick Comments

fray`Alpha:

Then then their BM was no way near the amount that should cause such a response

[fray`Alpha]

Just an Image to help link the Malice and syntox chat in game to the reddits :

http://imgur.com/yS0St

[RuineD]

So here's some things I'd like to point out. We've discussed this in IXL chat already, and it has been revealed that PulSe was the sole creator of the blog and the subreddit. He is willing to take full blame. You have taken what I said to Malice ENTIRELY out of context - we had found out about the subreddit, and did not know who made it at the time (someone linked it in our chat), and at the time myself and Malice were discussing the influx of troll accounts and troll blogs lately.

I said it to Malice as a complete joke, unbeknownst to me PulSe decided it would be a good idea and made the blog. No one found out about the blog until the next morning, and then PulSe admitted that he created it. That was why I said "it wasn't me", because I had no idea who made it, and had nothing to do with it's creation.

On a somewhat unrelated note you invaded our skype chat to discern something so petty and useless, and to victimise yourselves. Even though Savior broadcasted it over stream, it was not done purposely, as it is a TEAM chat where we discuss things privately.

Furthermore, branding IXL will achieve nothing - myself and Malice were bantering about something mostly unrelated to the creation of the blog. PulSe has taken the sole blame, and I have no idea who Wrigleys, Red John and mGGLightFanboy is.

edit: You can see in the skype chat that I say "i went to bed. i wasn't involved in this at all". Meaning at the time I was legitimately unaware of WTF was going on.

[Malice]

I give your essay an A+ for researching skills.
I give it a B+ for grammar, you had some errors in grammar throughout the essay, but above average result.
I'm sorry, but I have you fail you for the bibliography though. No bibliography included. Unofrtunately, that will affect your grade quite a bit.

Your essay was also far too long, 1500 words, I specifically said no more than 500.

This brings your essay to around a D+ level, which I'm sorry, but unfortunately, I need to have a chat to your parents about your performance lately.

[ROCCAT_Savior]

I realize we're probably not supposed to be posting here, but I'd just like to say that I really don't like how you searched through my stream in order to find evidence that, when taken out of context incriminates my clanmates and friends on something they didn't do.

Obviously what Pulse did was wrong, we've spoken to him about it, he is being punished, and it will not happen again.

[fray`Alpha]

Originally Posted by RuineD

On a somewhat unrelated note you invaded our skype chat to discern something so petty and useless, and to victimise yourselves. Even though Savior broadcasted it over stream, it was not done purposely, as it is a TEAM chat where we discuss things privately.

I didnt ivade any thing. I have been getting PM's from people both in mGG and out side of mGG who have been watching different IXL streams to see you guys shit talking mGG, particularly my self and titan. all through whats being shown on your guys streams.

I still do not believe that PulSe is the only one whos involved. further more I have NO idea why pulse or any of the other IXL members have started this BM, shit talking, and making fake acounts about mGG members when as far as I'm aware we have done nothing remotely calling for this.

[RuineD]

It doesn't matter what you believe. PulSe has already given himself up as the sole perpetrator. My post was mostly just to clear my own name. You didn't address what I wrote about my own involvement, but if you can somehow conjure up some evidence to link me to the creation of the blog/subreddit which perhaps is IN CONTEXT this time...

[Malice]

I'm pretty pissed I'm being called out and connected to stuff because it's similar to what I said earlier. Ruined made a joke about it to me in our clan chat, Pulse took it too far.

This has nothing to do with the games played by Light and Ruined earlier. I said that stuff about Mafia in the chat knowing that half your clan is stupid enough to bite to something as obvious as that, and that's exactly what happened.

[mGGNemesis]

To Ruined : Yes I too believe there is a possibility that u were joking/trolling a suggestion that might had been taken up by IEwpoq and the others.

To All : No I dun believe that IEwpoq is the only one involved. In the reddit it is obvious there were at least 3 poeple involved. Plus when IEwpoq was in the clan war, there were 2 trolls in the chats. Ruined u were there as well. So u know there were others involved. A coincidence that IEwpoq could perhaps be 3 persons while playing in a clan war?

To the 3 of u : I believe u do not have the authority to post in here and know not how you entered here when it was meant to be private. As u can see, all this is not made public because it is being discussed.

To Malice : Read the game chat log and what was said about mafia and light in reddit. Coincidence? That 2 annoymous people would say almost exactly the same things when this is happened?

To Ruined : I would love to believe you are innocent. But to say that only IEwpoq is the only one involved I think all evidence points to it otherwise.

And the stream chats. We did not intentional invade any twitch streams to witchhunt any information for this. You should know all twitch streams and chats are public and anyone in the public will have viewed it. We weren't even looking for anything from that direction. But others have seen and sent it to us, pmed us that this has happened. If you want to talk about any sort of invasion, perhaps when streaming, it is best not to check your skype or other person information such as even bank accounts on stream because who knowss who is watching your streams.

[Malice]

The clan war between IXL and mGG has two spectators being extremely BM, they were my IRL friends, and I linked the stream to them, and they decided to start being dicks, I told them to stop before we just banned them. I think it's pretty stupid to pull shit out of nowhere like this and just pin it on us, which is what half this "evidence" is. It's taken out of context, out of situation, and therefore makes it look like myself and RuineD have been involved. I was aware it happened, but I did not take part in it, other than telling pulse to delete/edit the subreddit/blog.

This "evidence" you have built up has been a complete waste of time. You gather evidence like it's some kind of cheating scandal, similar to Chobo's. I think you need to realise this is not as big of a deal as you make it out to be. A bunch of people spent New Years Eve making pretty much an essay about someone who insulted your clan online, you should have been partying and having fun instead of getting overwhelmed in something that isn't even a big deal

[mGGNemesis]

We didn't have to 'hunt' or 'gather' these 'evidence' the way u are putting it across. Stop making sound like we are witch hunting or intentionally to hurt people.

We have not gone public with all this simply because we do respect each clan and instead have tried to deal with this as privately as possible. Your leader was given every information we had, and shared with the admins here.

We do not like making a big fuss/drama about the whole matter but as it is, this afternoon, someone using the same twitch name as one of the 2 trolls on that chat channel has tried to make yet another troll blog.

[Malice]

I'm talking about Danll being my irl friend, that other guys name was dandm, I don't know who that is.

[x5.RunaMoK]

The issue has been sorted on our end, and dealt with internally.
if there are further issues feel free to contact me.