[ToRSpartaz]

Hey guys I need some advice, yes im a bronze noob blah blah blah.... So on and so forth but I really need some advice and tips to help me get promoted!!

Last night I was playing some ladder because ive been on a 18 streak win and then came a loss and I was quite surprised to see a gold player and yeah I need some advice on builds and yeah

HELP ME DX

[Aean(:]

Jesus christ dont ask others for help when you dont give us any information on what your struggling on

[dennistoo]

Just keep winning.

[HuT]

Please put some efforts into your post.. you gave us nothing to help you with, replays are always nice.

[ToRSpartaz]

Oops I lagged out my reply that was supposed to be after the main post -.- Sorry guys.

Okay what I wanted advice on was new efficient builds, like atm my most efficient builds are down to fourgating and to 2 gate robos and an occasional 3 gate star gate....

I need some timings and more efficient BO's

Ill hope you guys would forgive me

[ToRSpartaz]

Also when I say i need new Builds, I mean i know alooooooooot, but I dont have them mastered or anything I need the timings for the builds

[Crankenstein]

Originally Posted by Spartaz

like atm my most efficient builds are down to fourgating

You can fourgate? You'll be 1700 diamond no time at all.



Seriously though, have a read of TL. If you want a build that's a good place to start. What helped me out a lot was watching adebisi on youtube who tells you what he is thinking while he is playing. So instead of just doing a build he sort of explains why and what he is reacting to. I'm sure there is a protoss equivalent somewhere.

[ToRSpartaz]

Originally Posted by Crankenstein

You can fourgate? You'll be 1700 diamond no time at all..

Cheers dude but i keep on getting cheesed =/ So its just like I want to have some back up builds (timed ones more efficient) just in case.

[Satu]

Originally Posted by Spartaz

I need some advice on builds

Then say which builds you need help with, a bit general as it is.

Also, if you're bronze, you can get silver just by having better mechanics and macro only. Watch day[9] ep 252 and focus on those mechanics he talks about ONLY. Literally dont change your focus to countering builds to the point of mastery, just focus on one or two things at a time and you'll be promoted.

Or just mass game until you get promoted.

[cure]

Watch more replays of good players and practice more. And like Zergtastic says, watch some of daynine's stuff that would help you on mechanics and stuff. You can find builds anywhere on TL.

[PapaBigBelly]

As protoss, just 4 gate and keep doing it until you perfect it and you will be in diamond in a day.

protoss is so imba honestly, not just 4 gate, but forge canon rush expand is so deadly.

[SkyBreaker]

If you're in the bronze league; you shouldn't worry about build-orders or timings, at all. You should just focus on constantly maintaining and being on-top of your macro, that is (from a Protoss P.O.V.); constantly creating probes out of your nexuses, constantly using chronoboost on appropriate structures, always producing out of your unit producing structures, keeping your warp-gates ('w' hot-key by default) on cool-down and expanding.

Then combine the above with not focusing on the battles happening on screen (try to just box your units and a-move) but rather focus on not letting your macro slip. Those above points alone will be enough to propel you out of the bronze league easily and was also the advice I got from an ex-top 200 player when I was playing Protoss.

I wrote a short-guide a while ago (Sky's Protoss Guide to Promotion) that has a few things that helped me get promoted from the bronze league to the gold league as Protoss, unfortunately I've recently begun playing Zerg so that guide won't be including the later advancements in ladder standings. But regardless check it out; as it may be helpful.

Also, when posting a topic asking for advice; as others have said please try to be as detailed as possible with what you're wanting advice on as well as what HuT suggested of attaching replays for the community to review

[ToRSpartaz]

Originally Posted by SkyBreaker

If you're in the bronze league; you shouldn't worry about build-orders or timings, at all. You should just focus on constantly maintaining and being on-top of your macro, that is (from a Protoss P.O.V.); constantly creating probes out of your nexuses, constantly using chronoboost on appropriate structures, always producing out of your unit producing structures, keeping your warp-gates ('w' hot-key by default) on cool-down and expanding.

Then combine the above with not focusing on the battles happening on screen (try to just box your units and a-move) but rather focus on not letting your macro slip. Those above points alone will be enough to propel you out of the bronze league easily and was also the advice I got from an ex-top 200 player when I was playing Protoss.

I wrote a short-guide a while ago (Sky's Protoss Guide to Promotion) that has a few things that helped me get promoted from the bronze league to the gold league as Protoss, unfortunately I've recently begun playing Zerg so that guide won't be including the later advancements in ladder standings. But regardless check it out; as it may be helpful.

Also, when posting a topic asking for advice; as others have said please try to be as detailed as possible with what you're wanting advice on as well as what HuT suggested of attaching replays for the community to review

Thanks dude And yesterday when i was playing ladder, I actually just went back to my standard fourgating strat and won all 3 games

[DRFT]

I think the most important thing to learn in bronze league is scouting more, making sure u dont get supply blocked, and constant training of probes, using hotkeys and training units while on the move using yor hotkeys. And i guess making su
re u expand in a timely manner.

[cure]

Originally Posted by DRFT

I think the most important thing to learn in bronze league is scouting more, making sure u dont get supply blocked, and constant training of probes, using hotkeys and training units while on the move using yor hotkeys. And i guess making sure u expand in a timely manner.

TL : DR version: Practice macro
Well to be honest, macro is alot more important to master while you're in lower leagues. Get your macro solid, then practice your micro. I know you've probably heard this a million times but, 4gating doesn't help you improve that much.

[noobinater]

If you want to win games and get promoted, keep 4gate'ing.
If you want to get good at the game, do as these guys say and work on your macro.

(winning games =/= being good. being good has a strong effect on winning games though)

[ke_ivan]

it is true, although my ranking has plummeted to the bottom after watching day[9] as I changed my hotkey set up to make it more efficient. i'm a sad sad man. (yes, i know there are build order testers, but no one attacks me like a RL person does lol.)

[ToRSpartaz]

I think my problem when I was in my promotion phase was that I was out microed in my PvP and then out macroed in my PvZ and PvT idk what happened =/ Last night was just a bad night for me gaming wise