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View Poll Results: Which server do you get better ping to?
SEA 31 77.50%
NA 9 22.50%
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A few Australian players have encountered some serious issues with the most recent "SEA only" Masters Cup due to the fact it was being held on the NA server. The reason the tournament was initially moved to the NA server was because SEA became too laggy for the majority of SEA, however that issue was fixed long ago. Currently, the issue seems to be reversed, I can speak on behalf of the majority of SLCN saying that we all get at least 1 second delay to NA, rendering it unplayable in tournaments.

This can create several issues, such as when a SEA resident living in NA refuses to play on the SEA server (even though they have a better ping there than Australians) because they get a clear and distinct advantage if their opponent has 1sec+ delay, and then have none.

I propose we move SEA only tournaments back to SEA, I've created a poll on the issue to gauge what people think. Please however only vote on the poll if you are going to post a traceroute to the servers to show which server gives you better ping. To do this, visit https://us.battle.net/support/en/art...g-a-traceroute for instructions.

Here's mine:
SEA SERVER
Tracing route to 202.9.67.254 over a maximum of 30 hops

1 5 ms 4 ms 3 ms NB604N.Home [192.168.1.1]
2 23 ms 23 ms 25 ms 10.20.21.170
3 25 ms 23 ms 32 ms 203-26-22-205.static.tpgi.com.au [203.26.22.205]

4 24 ms 25 ms 25 ms 59-100-192-173.mel.static-ipl.aapt.com.au [59.10
0.192.173]
5 23 ms 23 ms 23 ms te3-3.mburndist01.aapt.net.au [203.131.61.30]
6 22 ms 23 ms 23 ms te2-1-110.mburndist02.aapt.net.au [202.10.12.139
]
7 25 ms 23 ms 22 ms te0-3-1-0.mflincore01.aapt.net.au [202.10.12.17]

8 23 ms 23 ms 25 ms te2-2.mflindist01.aapt.net.au [202.10.12.10]
9 24 ms 24 ms 24 ms bu8.mflinbrdr11.aapt.net.au [202.10.14.31]
10 22 ms 23 ms 23 ms tengigabitethernet7-3.lon77.melbourne.telstra.ne
t [139.130.41.105]
11 25 ms 26 ms 23 ms bundle-ether3-100.exi-core1.melbourne.telstra.ne
t [203.50.80.1]
12 42 ms 43 ms 39 ms bundle-ether5.way-core4.adelaide.telstra.net [20
3.50.11.92[IMG]resource://skype_ff_extension-at-jetpack/skype_ff_extension/data/call_skype_logo.png[/IMG]3.50.11.92[IMG]resource://skype_ff_extension-at-jetpack/skype_ff_extension/data/call_skype_logo.png[/IMG]3.50.11.923.50.11.92]
13 67 ms 67 ms 70 ms bundle-ether5.pie-core1.perth.telstra.net [203.5
0.11.17]
14 66 ms 69 ms 66 ms 203.50.9.2
15 112 ms 112 ms 111 ms i-6-0-0.6ntp-core01.bx.telstraglobal.net [202.84
.143.94]
16 116 ms 114 ms 115 ms i-0-1-0-0.istt02.bi.telstraglobal.net [202.84.24
3.110]
17 117 ms 115 ms 116 ms i-0-0-2-2.istt03.bi.telstraglobal.net [202.84.21
9.182]
18 115 ms 116 ms 116 ms unknown.telstraglobal.net [202.126.128.90]
19 117 ms 113 ms 112 ms xe-1-1-1.gw401.sg2.ap.equinix.com [27.111.222.10
7]
20 114 ms 116 ms 115 ms 202.79.216.154
21 115 ms 116 ms 117 ms 202.9.67.254

NA SERVER 1 ( 12.129.202.154[IMG]resource://skype_ff_extension-at-jetpack/skype_ff_extension/data/call_skype_logo.png[/IMG]12.129.202.154[IMG]resource://skype_ff_extension-at-jetpack/skype_ff_extension/data/call_skype_logo.png[/IMG]12.129.202.154)


1 5 ms 3 ms 4 ms NB604N.Home [192.168.1.1]
2 28 ms 21 ms 21 ms 10.20.21.170
3 22 ms 22 ms 21 ms nme-sot-dry-agr2-Te2-6.tpgi.com.au [202.7.173.69
]
4 25 ms 22 ms 23 ms nme-sot-dry-crt2-Te0-1-0-4.tpgi.com.au [203.26.2
2.49]
5 32 ms 34 ms 32 ms syd-sot-ken-crt4-Te9-2.tpgi.com.au [203.29.135.1
89]
6 34 ms 35 ms 35 ms 203-219-35-4.static.tpgi.com.au [203.219.35.4]
7 218 ms 219 ms 222 ms ge5-0-5d0.cir1.seattle7-wa.us.xo.net [216.156.10
0.37]
8 220 ms 219 ms 220 ms 206.111.7.90.ptr.us.xo.net [206.111.7.90]
9 229 ms 232 ms 231 ms cr82.st0wa.ip.att.net [12.122.82.18]
10 230 ms 234 ms 230 ms cr2.ptdor.ip.att.net [12.122.5.230]
11 229 ms 227 ms 228 ms 12.122.2.74
12 231 ms 229 ms 233 ms cr2.la2ca.ip.att.net [12.122.31.133]
13 228 ms 228 ms 228 ms 12.123.132.209[IMG]resource://skype_ff_extension-at-jetpack/skype_ff_extension/data/call_skype_logo.png[/IMG]12.123.132.209[IMG]resource://skype_ff_extension-at-jetpack/skype_ff_extension/data/call_skype_logo.png[/IMG]12.123.132.20912.123.132.209
14 230 ms 227 ms 228 ms 12.122.251.186[IMG]resource://skype_ff_extension-at-jetpack/skype_ff_extension/data/call_skype_logo.png[/IMG]12.122.251.186[IMG]resource://skype_ff_extension-at-jetpack/skype_ff_extension/data/call_skype_logo.png[/IMG]12.122.251.18612.122.251.186
15 419 ms 231 ms 229 ms mdf001c7613r0004-gig-12-1.lax1.attens.net [12.12
9.193.246]
16 * * * Request timed out.
17 * * * Request timed out.
18 * * * Request timed out.



NA SERVER 2 (63.240.104.93)

1 3 ms 3 ms 4 ms NB604N.Home [192.168.1.1]
2 22 ms 22 ms 22 ms 10.20.21.170
3 22 ms 22 ms 24 ms nme-sot-dry-agr2-Te2-6.tpgi.com.au [202.7.173.69
]
4 29 ms 23 ms 31 ms 203-26-22-213.static.tpgi.com.au [203.26.22.213]

5 32 ms 33 ms 31 ms syd-sot-ken-crt4-Te9-2.tpgi.com.au [203.29.135.1
89]
6 33 ms 35 ms 40 ms 203-219-35-68.static.tpgi.com.au [203.219.35.68]

7 218 ms 220 ms 217 ms ge5-0-5d0.cir1.seattle7-wa.us.xo.net [216.156.10
0.37]
8 219 ms 219 ms 218 ms 206.111.7.90.ptr.us.xo.net [206.111.7.90]
9 278 ms 281 ms 279 ms cr81.st0wa.ip.att.net [12.122.82.10]
10 282 ms 282 ms 283 ms cr2.st6wa.ip.att.net [12.122.5.198]
11 278 ms 279 ms 278 ms cr2.cgcil.ip.att.net [12.122.31.129]
12 282 ms 281 ms 283 ms cr1.n54ny.ip.att.net [12.122.1.1]
13 275 ms 403 ms 277 ms gar1.nw2nj.ip.att.net [12.122.131.81]
14 277 ms 278 ms 277 ms 12.122.251.10
15 298 ms 287 ms 282 ms mdf001c7613r0004-gig-10-1.nyc3.attens.net [63.24
0.65.18]
16 * * * Request timed out.
17 * * * Request timed out.
18 * * * Request timed out.

As you can see, it's a pretty damn substantial differenceCall
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Please post your tracert to both, it will be good information as you are living in NA, so we can see your ping to SEA.
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Love how no one is posting a tracert. :S
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230ms is not "at least one second", please recalibrate your internal clock.

I get 170ms to both SEA and NA.

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The pings for the ROOT House

NA server:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms router [192.168.88.1]
2 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 10.0.0.1
3 62 ms 64 ms 103 ms 24.6.148.1
4 10 ms 8 ms 9 ms te-8-6-ur01.pittsburg.ca.sfba.comcast.net [68.85
.100.189]
5 14 ms 12 ms 11 ms te-1-15-0-2-ar01.sfsutro.ca.sfba.comcast.net [68
.87.226.102]
6 12 ms 11 ms 16 ms he-1-5-0-0-cr01.sanjose.ca.ibone.comcast.net [68
.86.90.93]
7 26 ms 17 ms 17 ms pos-0-2-0-0-pe01.11greatoaks.ca.ibone.comcast.ne
t [68.86.87.10]
8 12 ms 16 ms 20 ms 192.205.37.1
9 38 ms 26 ms 26 ms cr2.sffca.ip.att.net [12.122.86.202]
10 37 ms 30 ms 36 ms cr1.la2ca.ip.att.net [12.122.3.122]
11 36 ms 25 ms 25 ms gar5.lsrca.ip.att.net [12.122.85.33]
12 34 ms 31 ms 25 ms 12-122-254-230.attens.net [12.122.254.230]
13 30 ms 27 ms 25 ms 206.16.68.50
14 * * * Request timed out.
15 * * * Request timed out.
16 * * * Request timed out.
17 * * * Request timed out.
18 * * * Request timed out.

SEA server:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms router [192.168.88.1]
2 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 10.0.0.1
3 21 ms 12 ms 26 ms 24.6.148.1
4 9 ms 8 ms 10 ms te-8-6-ur01.pittsburg.ca.sfba.comcast.net [68.85
.100.189]
5 10 ms 11 ms 23 ms te-1-15-0-0-ar01.sfsutro.ca.sfba.comcast.net [68
.87.226.62]
6 25 ms 14 ms 24 ms he-3-8-0-0-cr01.sanjose.ca.ibone.comcast.net [68
.86.94.85]
7 25 ms 17 ms 17 ms pos-0-2-0-0-pe01.11greatoaks.ca.ibone.comcast.ne
t [68.86.87.10]
8 16 ms 16 ms 15 ms as4637.11greatoaks.ca.ibone.comcast.net [173.167
.57.18]
9 16 ms 19 ms 16 ms i-0-3-0-13.eqnx-core01.bi.telstraglobal.net [202
.84.251.125]
10 171 ms 179 ms 171 ms i-0-3-0-6.hkhh-core02.bx.telstraglobal.net [202.
84.143.237]
11 204 ms 206 ms 203 ms i-0-2-0-1.istt-core02.bx.telstraglobal.net [202.
84.249.162]
12 204 ms 204 ms 201 ms i-0-0-0-0.istt03.bi.telstraglobal.net [202.84.24
3.74]
13 214 ms 205 ms 203 ms unknown.telstraglobal.net [202.126.128.90]
14 217 ms 213 ms 215 ms xe-1-1-1.gw401.sg2.ap.equinix.com [27.111.222.10
7]
15 * * * Request timed out.
16 * * * Request timed out.
17 * * * Request timed out.
18 * * * Request timed out.
19 * * * Request timed out.
20 * * * Request timed out.
21 * * * Request timed out.
22 * * * Request timed out.
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I'm not sure if tracert is the best tool for this job, but I can't ping the servers for some reason.
Here's some from Melbourne to both Americas, SEA and Korea(thought it might be useful) in that order.


Tracing route to 12.129.202.154 over a maximum of 20 hops

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.0.1
2 * * * Request timed out.
3 15 ms 16 ms 15 ms 203.215.7.251
4 47 ms 47 ms 17 ms 150.101.33.171
5 28 ms 37 ms 34 ms 150.101.33.28
6 183 ms 183 ms 183 ms 150.101.33.147
7 186 ms 197 ms 215 ms 144.232.191.193
8 186 ms 185 ms 185 ms 144.232.1.70
9 189 ms 190 ms 189 ms 12.122.200.14
10 189 ms 190 ms 189 ms 12.122.31.133
11 185 ms 185 ms 185 ms 12.123.132.209
12 186 ms 185 ms 186 ms 12.122.254.230
13 215 ms 215 ms 218 ms 206.16.68.42
14 * * * Request timed out.
15 * * * Request timed out.
16 * * * Request timed out.
17 * * * Request timed out.
18 * * * Request timed out.
19 * * * Request timed out.
20 * * * Request timed out.

Trace complete.


Tracing route to 63.240.104.93 over a maximum of 20 hops

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.0.1
2 * * * Request timed out.
3 16 ms 16 ms 16 ms 203.215.7.251
4 16 ms 20 ms 15 ms 150.101.33.171
5 28 ms 31 ms 28 ms 150.101.33.28
6 183 ms 185 ms 183 ms 150.101.33.147
7 185 ms 192 ms 186 ms 144.232.191.193
8 185 ms 185 ms 186 ms 144.232.1.70
9 259 ms 265 ms 257 ms 12.122.200.10
10 254 ms 252 ms 259 ms 12.122.4.122
11 252 ms 249 ms 247 ms 12.122.2.54
12 257 ms 259 ms 259 ms 12.122.1.1
13 254 ms 254 ms 301 ms 12.122.131.81
14 248 ms 248 ms 250 ms 12.122.251.10
15 295 ms 336 ms 253 ms 63.240.65.22
16 * * * Request timed out.
17 * * * Request timed out.
18 * * * Request timed out.
19 * * * Request timed out.
20 * * * Request timed out.

Trace complete.


Tracing route to 202.9.67.254 over a maximum of 20 hops

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.0.1
2 * * * Request timed out.
3 16 ms 16 ms 16 ms 203.215.7.251
4 15 ms 15 ms 16 ms 150.101.33.171
5 102 ms 101 ms 101 ms 150.101.33.41
6 100 ms 129 ms 100 ms 150.101.33.39
7 53 ms 53 ms 52 ms 150.101.33.12
8 101 ms 101 ms 101 ms 150.101.33.176
9 101 ms 101 ms 101 ms 202.79.197.79
10 106 ms 101 ms 102 ms 202.9.67.254

Trace complete.


Tracing route to 211.234.110.1 over a maximum of 20 hops

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.0.1
2 * * * Request timed out.
3 17 ms 17 ms 18 ms 203.215.7.251
4 16 ms 16 ms 17 ms 150.101.33.171
5 151 ms 151 ms 155 ms 150.101.33.28
6 28 ms 28 ms 53 ms 150.101.33.14
7 140 ms 139 ms 139 ms 150.101.33.199
8 161 ms 162 ms 196 ms 202.40.160.240
9 150 ms 148 ms 141 ms 1.208.150.181
10 198 ms 177 ms 231 ms 1.208.147.145
11 187 ms 206 ms 205 ms 1.213.147.254
12 204 ms 183 ms 204 ms 1.213.105.245
13 232 ms 187 ms 177 ms 211.233.95.58
14 186 ms 186 ms 187 ms 211.172.248.82
15 * * * Request timed out.
16 * * * Request timed out.
17 * * * Request timed out.
18 * * * Request timed out.
19 * * * Request timed out.
20 * * * Request timed out.

Trace complete.
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I'm not sure if tracert is the best tool for this job, but I can't ping the servers for some reason.
The sc2 servers don't reply to pings, so the best measurement we can get is the ping to the previous server in the routing chain.
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Tracing route to sea.battle.net [202.9.66.38]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms telstra.gateway [10.0.0.138]
2 2 ms 1 ms 1 ms 58.162.26.177
3 2 ms 2 ms 1 ms 10.245.40.16
4 2 ms 2 ms 1 ms 172.18.244.142
5 1 ms 2 ms 2 ms 172.18.244.137
6 4 ms 2 ms 1 ms tengigabitethernet7-3.civ12.canberra.telstra.net [139.130.43.45]
7 3 ms 2 ms 3 ms tengigabitethernet0-8-0-2.civ-core2.canberra.telstra.net [203.50.10.129]
8 9 ms 11 ms 11 ms bundle-ether15.chw-core2.sydney.telstra.net [203.50.6.81]
9 28 ms 24 ms 23 ms bundle-ether8.exi-core1.melbourne.telstra.net [203.50.11.75]
10 40 ms 39 ms 39 ms bundle-ether5.way-core4.adelaide.telstra.net [203.50.11.92]
11 71 ms 71 ms 71 ms bundle-ether5.pie-core1.perth.telstra.net [203.50.11.17]
12 69 ms 68 ms 72 ms 203.50.9.2
13 114 ms 112 ms 112 ms i-0-0-0.6ntp-core01.bx.telstraglobal.net [202.84.143.2]
14 116 ms 115 ms 113 ms i-0-1-0-0.istt02.bi.telstraglobal.net [202.84.243.110]
15 115 ms 113 ms 114 ms i-0-0-2-2.istt03.bi.telstraglobal.net [202.84.219.182]
16 149 ms 113 ms 113 ms unknown.telstraglobal.net [202.126.128.90]
17 114 ms 113 ms 113 ms xe-1-1-1.gw401.sg2.ap.equinix.com [27.111.222.107]

Tracing route to us.battle.net [12.129.242.40]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms telstra.gateway [10.0.0.138]
2 2 ms 1 ms 1 ms 58.162.26.177
3 2 ms 2 ms 4 ms 10.245.40.16
4 2 ms 1 ms 1 ms 172.18.244.142
5 1 ms 2 ms 1 ms 172.18.244.137
6 2 ms 2 ms 1 ms tengigabitethernet7-3.civ12.canberra.telstra.net [139.130.43.45]
7 3 ms 3 ms 3 ms tengigabitethernet0-8-0-2.civ-core2.canberra.telstra.net [203.50.10.129]
8 12 ms 12 ms 11 ms bundle-ether15.chw-core2.sydney.telstra.net [203.50.6.81]
9 13 ms 11 ms 13 ms bundle-ether1.oxf-gw2.sydney.telstra.net [203.50.6.90]
10 14 ms 11 ms 11 ms 203.50.13.38
11 158 ms 159 ms 159 ms i-0-4-0-1.paix-core01.bx.telstraglobal.net [202.84.249.57]
12 158 ms 156 ms 156 ms i-0-4-0-0.paix02.bi.telstraglobal.net [202.84.251.58]
13 156 ms 156 ms 156 ms 206.24.240.149
14 158 ms 156 ms 156 ms esr2-xe-8-1-0.pax.savvis.net [204.70.192.50]
15 234 ms 308 ms 366 ms er1-ten-4-8.sjq.savvis.net [206.28.96.198]
16 200 ms 200 ms 200 ms er2-xe-7-0-0.SanJoseEquinix.savvis.net [204.70.198.142]
17 201 ms 199 ms 199 ms 192.205.33.97
18 211 ms 211 ms 211 ms cr1.sffca.ip.att.net [12.122.114.54]
19 210 ms 212 ms 211 ms cr1.la2ca.ip.att.net [12.122.3.122]
20 223 ms 214 ms 213 ms gar5.lsrca.ip.att.net [12.122.85.33]
21 208 ms 208 ms 207 ms 12-122-254-226.attens.net [12.122.254.226]
22 210 ms 210 ms 210 ms 206.16.68.50


I concur, let's move back to sea


EDIT:
Tracing route to tw.battle.net [121.254.166.80]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms telstra.gateway [10.0.0.138]
2 2 ms 1 ms 1 ms 58.162.26.177
3 3 ms 1 ms 1 ms 10.245.40.16
4 2 ms 1 ms 1 ms 172.18.244.142
5 2 ms 1 ms 1 ms 172.18.244.137
6 2 ms 2 ms 1 ms tengigabitethernet7-3.civ12.canberra.telstra.net [139.130.43.45]
7 6 ms 3 ms 3 ms tengigabitethernet0-8-0-2.civ-core2.canberra.telstra.net [203.50.10.129]
8 10 ms 11 ms 11 ms bundle-ether15.chw-core2.sydney.telstra.net [203.50.6.81]
9 11 ms 11 ms 11 ms bundle-ether1.oxf-gw2.sydney.telstra.net [203.50.6.90]
10 10 ms 11 ms 11 ms 203.50.13.38
11 133 ms 132 ms 131 ms i-0-0-2-0.siko-core04.bx.telstraglobal.net [202.84.140.138]
12 160 ms 160 ms 159 ms i-0-1-1-1.kscc-core01.bx.telstraglobal.net [202.84.249.185]
13 156 ms 158 ms 157 ms i-0-0-2-0.kscc06.bi.telstraglobal.net [202.84.221.22]
14 157 ms 157 ms 156 ms 210.108.16.149
15 156 ms 157 ms 155 ms 211.53.88.21
16 157 ms 157 ms 157 ms 61.42.234.254
17 182 ms 178 ms 157 ms 1.208.104.245
18 157 ms 157 ms 157 ms 211.233.95.94
19 157 ms 157 ms 157 ms 211.43.223.26

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Yeah, it's pretty unfair. Today I lost a game vs Petraeus purely from delay, I was in a great position but couldn't micro at all... I ask to swap to SEA server (after he says its playable for him) and he says no. Well, I guess it's time to forfeit then...

I don't think SEA players who've moved to America should get an advantage on players who remain in Australia.

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dunno how to copy from command prompt, SEA tracert last few lines are

141 141 143
140 141 160
143 151 142

NA is pretty unstable

last few lines

146 146 145
208 206 205
219 210 203
159 161 169
152 154 153
218 209 199
274 298 200
497 205 203
181 180 180

IMO for SEA tournies it should be SEA server unless both agree to playing on NA, If its open tournaments to americans as well though it should be on NA unless both agree
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Yeah, it's pretty unfair. Today I lost a game vs Petraeus purely from delay, I was in a great position but couldn't micro at all...
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purely from delay
replay for anyone who's interested: http://drop.sc/381456 kid clearly would've won with better micro

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SEA tracert last few lines are

141 141 143
140 141 160
143 151 142

NA is pretty unstable

last few lines

146 146 145
208 206 205
219 210 203
159 161 169
152 154 153
218 209 199
274 298 200
497 205 203
181 180 180
Posting my results here as well
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Clearly the solution is change every online tournament to a LAN so everyone plays in the same place with the same ISP getting the same ping.
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C:\Users\PiG>tracert sea.battle.net

Tracing route to sea.battle.net
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms
2 15 ms 15 ms 15 ms
3 15 ms 16 ms 15 ms

4 15 ms 15 ms 16 ms
5 136 ms 136 ms 140 ms
6 136 ms 136 ms 137 ms
7 68 ms 68 ms 68 ms
8 136 ms 136 ms 136 ms
.

Trace complete.

Dunno why it won't copy paste anymore.

NA was 170-195 with spikes around 250ms.
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Tournaments should definitely take this poll into account, considering most are just blindly defaulting to NA(despite it being a SEA tournament)

C:\Users\user>tracert sea.battle.net

Tracing route to sea.battle.net [202.9.66.38]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 15 ms 24 ms 14 ms cm1.zeta168.maxonline.com.sg [116.87.168.1]
2 8 ms 25 ms 10 ms 172.20.24.65
3 13 ms 11 ms 11 ms 172.26.17.5
4 * * * Request timed out.
5 10 ms 7 ms 6 ms 172.20.9.50
6 9 ms 23 ms 15 ms 203.116.6.65
7 9 ms 13 ms 12 ms ancoretl02.starhub.net.sg [203.118.15.177]
8 13 ms 28 ms 14 ms 203.118.2.29
9 23 ms 21 ms 12 ms an-ats-loc10.starhub.net.sg [203.118.15.194]
10 34 ms 19 ms 9 ms 203.117.160.170
11 10 ms 11 ms 10 ms xe-1-1-1.gw401.sg2.ap.equinix.com [27.111.222.10
7]
12 * * * Request timed out.

Tracing route to us.battle.net [12.129.242.40]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 12 ms 8 ms 9 ms cm1.zeta168.maxonline.com.sg [116.87.168.1]
2 9 ms 18 ms 7 ms 172.20.24.65
3 15 ms 11 ms 11 ms 172.26.17.5
4 32 ms 6 ms 44 ms 172.20.7.102
5 37 ms 45 ms 23 ms 203.117.35.25
6 8 ms 12 ms 11 ms 203.117.34.9
7 14 ms 12 ms 23 ms 203.117.34.198
8 23 ms 10 ms 32 ms 203.117.34.213
9 198 ms 191 ms 213 ms las-b3-link.telia.net [213.248.72.205]
10 198 ms 190 ms 190 ms las-bb1-link.telia.net [213.155.134.76]
11 198 ms 194 ms 195 ms att-ic-153025-las-bb1.c.telia.net [80.239.193.21
4]
12 193 ms 190 ms 199 ms cr2.la2ca.ip.att.net [12.122.129.98]
13 222 ms 191 ms 191 ms 12.123.132.209
14 190 ms 201 ms 195 ms 12.122.251.186
15 208 ms 201 ms 227 ms mdf001c7613r0004-gig-12-1.lax1.attens.net [12.12
9.193.246]
16 * * * Request timed out.
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I get around the same as Wally on SEA.
On NA I get around 170 ms then it suddenly spiked up to like 300 ms. Probably unstable, since it usually just hovers around 170-190 ms every other time I do a tracert.
On KR I hover between 170-190 ms as well, goes as low as 150 ms and highest is 200 ms.
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SEA Server 202.9.67.254
+ [Result] +
Tracing route to 202.9.67.254 over a maximum of 30 hops

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.1.1
2 * * * Request timed out.
3 21 ms 23 ms 22 ms nme-sot-dry-crt2-Te0-2-2-0.tpgi.com.au [202.7.162.54]
4 30 ms 20 ms 21 ms 59-100-192-173.mel.static-ipl.aapt.com.au [59.100.192.173]
5 41 ms 20 ms 20 ms te3-3.mburndist02.aapt.net.au [203.131.61.32]
6 20 ms 19 ms 19 ms te0-3-1-0.mflincore01.aapt.net.au [202.10.12.17]
7 19 ms 19 ms 19 ms te2-2.mflindist01.aapt.net.au [202.10.12.10]
8 20 ms 20 ms 24 ms bu8.mflinbrdr11.aapt.net.au [202.10.14.31]
9 20 ms 20 ms 20 ms tengigabitethernet7-3.lon77.melbourne.telstra.net [139.130.41.105]
10 24 ms 23 ms 23 ms bundle-ether3-100.exi-core1.melbourne.telstra.net [203.50.80.1]
11 38 ms 38 ms 34 ms bundle-ether5.way-core4.adelaide.telstra.net [203.50.11.92]
12 62 ms 64 ms 62 ms bundle-ether5.pie-core1.perth.telstra.net [203.50.11.17]
13 64 ms 64 ms 63 ms gigabitethernet0-7-0-0.pthp-core01.perth.net.reach.com [203.50.13.246]
14 111 ms 111 ms 111 ms i-0-0-0.6ntp-core01.bx.telstraglobal.net [202.84.143.2]
15 114 ms 115 ms 114 ms i-0-1-0-0.istt02.bi.telstraglobal.net [202.84.243.110]
16 109 ms 109 ms 110 ms i-0-0-2-2.istt03.bi.telstraglobal.net [202.84.219.182]
17 112 ms 112 ms 111 ms unknown.telstraglobal.net [202.126.128.90]
18 136 ms 112 ms 112 ms xe-1-1-1.gw401.sg2.ap.equinix.com [27.111.222.107]
19 112 ms 112 ms 112 ms 202.79.216.154
20 113 ms 112 ms 114 ms 202.9.67.254

Trace complete.


NA Server 1 12.129.202.154
+ [Results] +
Tracing route to 12.129.202.154 over a maximum of 30 hops

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.1.1
2 * * * Request timed out.
3 29 ms 30 ms 30 ms 203-12-162-169.tpgi.com.au [203.12.162.169]
4 19 ms 19 ms 18 ms nme-nxg-wal-crt2-te-2-1-0.tpgi.com.au [202.7.171.89]
5 30 ms 30 ms 29 ms syd-pow-cla-crt1-po-3.tpgi.com.au [202.7.162.5]
6 213 ms 212 ms 213 ms 66.162.129.149
7 212 ms 212 ms 213 ms 64-129-238-70.static.twtelecom.net [64.129.238.70]
8 212 ms 212 ms 212 ms 12.118.34.9
9 217 ms 215 ms 214 ms cr1.st6wa.ip.att.net [12.122.146.78]
10 215 ms 215 ms 215 ms cr2.sffca.ip.att.net [12.122.31.194]
11 218 ms 215 ms 215 ms cr2.la2ca.ip.att.net [12.122.31.133]
12 213 ms 213 ms 309 ms 12.123.132.209
13 214 ms 217 ms 214 ms 12-122-254-226.attens.net [12.122.254.226]
14 214 ms 214 ms 214 ms mdf001c7613r0003-gig-10-1.lax1.attens.net [12.129.193.242]
15 * * * Request timed out.
16 * * * Request timed out.
17 * * * Request timed out.


NA Server 2 63.240.104.93
+ [Results] +
Tracing route to 63.240.104.93 over a maximum of 30 hops

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.1.1
2 * * * Request timed out.
3 30 ms 29 ms 29 ms 203-12-162-169.tpgi.com.au [203.12.162.169]
4 19 ms 19 ms 19 ms nme-nxg-wal-crt2-te-2-1-0.tpgi.com.au [202.7.171.89]
5 34 ms 31 ms 30 ms syd-pow-cla-crt1-ge-6-1-0.tpgi.com.au [202.7.171.166]
6 211 ms 212 ms 212 ms 66.162.129.149
7 212 ms 212 ms 219 ms 64-129-238-70.static.twtelecom.net [64.129.238.70]
8 245 ms 212 ms 212 ms 12.118.34.9
9 267 ms 267 ms 266 ms cr2.st6wa.ip.att.net [12.122.146.210]
10 267 ms 267 ms 267 ms cr2.cgcil.ip.att.net [12.122.31.129]
11 269 ms 267 ms 267 ms cr1.n54ny.ip.att.net [12.122.1.1]
12 264 ms 264 ms 263 ms gar1.nw2nj.ip.att.net [12.122.131.81]
13 264 ms 265 ms 264 ms 12.122.251.10
14 274 ms 300 ms 263 ms mdf001c7613r0003-gig-12-1.nyc3.attens.net [63.240.65.22]
15 * * * Request timed out.
16 * * * Request timed out.
17 * * * Request timed out.


Taiwan Server 121.254.166.80
+ [Results] +
Tracing route to 121.254.166.80 over a maximum of 30 hops

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.1.1
2 * * * Request timed out.
3 31 ms 32 ms 34 ms syd-pwk-dym-crt1-ge-0-0-0.tpgi.com.au [203.29.135.130]
4 31 ms 31 ms 32 ms syd-pwk-dym-crt1-ge-0-0-0.tpgi.com.au [203.29.135.130]
5 162 ms 162 ms 161 ms ix-0-0-2-572.tcore1.HK2-Hong-Kong.as6453.net [116.0.67.33]
6 190 ms 174 ms 176 ms 116.0.67.101
7 176 ms 176 ms 176 ms 1.213.148.153
8 197 ms 252 ms 196 ms 1.208.151.37
9 209 ms 221 ms 243 ms 61.42.234.254
10 222 ms 243 ms 199 ms 1.213.105.245
11 202 ms 197 ms 202 ms 211.233.95.58
12 210 ms 210 ms 210 ms 211.234.120.150
13 * * * Request timed out.
14 * * * Request timed out.
15 * * * Request timed out.


Korea Server 121.254.166.38 (Same subnet as Taiwan so should be very similar)
+ [Results] +
Tracing route to kr.battle.net [121.254.166.38]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.1.1
2 * * * Request timed out.
3 32 ms 31 ms 32 ms syd-pwk-dym-crt1-ge-0-0-0.tpgi.com.au [203.29.135.130]
4 32 ms 31 ms 32 ms syd-pwk-dym-crt1-ge-0-0-0.tpgi.com.au [203.29.135.130]
5 161 ms 162 ms 162 ms ix-0-0-2-572.tcore1.HK2-Hong-Kong.as6453.net [116.0.67.33]
6 196 ms 175 ms 175 ms 116.0.67.101
7 164 ms 192 ms 164 ms 1.208.151.221
8 256 ms 221 ms 234 ms 1.208.149.117
9 233 ms 219 ms 210 ms 61.43.235.210
10 243 ms 242 ms 221 ms 1.213.104.245
11 220 ms 243 ms 221 ms 211.174.48.62
12 211 ms 210 ms 209 ms 211.234.120.10
13 * * * Request timed out.
14 * * * Request timed out.
15 * * * Request timed out.
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Maybe this map by Ahli would give better ping results. Takes into account the built in delay of the game.
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Unread Mon, 26th-May-2014, 5:13 PM BnetId: Pezzaperry.756  Race: Location: Melbourne, Australia  Total Posts Made: 307 # 20
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LOL



replay for anyone who's interested: http://drop.sc/381456 kid clearly would've won with better micro
Err, did you see my engage vs your roach hydra? Wasn't nearly as good as it should have been.

You're doing a great job full time btw pet!! You can slightly win over players who go to both uni and have a job!! well done!

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