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Unread Tue, 16th-Apr-2013, 10:42 AM Race: Location: Australia  Total Posts Made: 328 # 1
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[HotS] Safe Stable Build for Terran

Hey Guys,

I need a Stable Build for Terran. The WOL 1 Barracks Fast Expand (1 Rax FE), doesn't cut it anymore and its not safe to use in HOTS.

Back in WOL 1 Barracks Fast Expand, was quite safe and stable Build to do in all Match Ups.

So I pretty much would like to know what is HOTS equivalent to 1 Barracks Fast Expand in WOL.

Also:
> What's a safe build to counter someone doing a 111 (and a safe build to defend that), but for Widow Mines Drop?
> What's a safe build to counter the reaper opening (and a safe build to defend that)? Since some maps have many cliffs reaper can access your base.
> What's a safe build to counter quick oracle (and a safe build to defend that)?
> What's a safe build to counter quick DTs (and a safe build to defend that)?
(The First 2 Points are the ones i really want to know)

In my Opinion, HOTS is so more aggressive in early game, compared to WOL.

I perfer to learn one build that's good for all match-ups. But i don't mind to change a little of the build to suit a particular Match-ups (without doing a complete new build for each match-ups

Any advice would be great.
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Unread Tue, 16th-Apr-2013, 1:28 PM BnetId: distyL.742  Race: Clan: eMp  Location: Adelaide  Total Posts Made: 233 # 2
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I'm a zerg player and i find it really quite difficult to play vs a Terran if they have walled in, gone fast factory into CC with 2 hellions on the field. It's what i seem to be running into recently.

Makes it hard for me to quick expand to my 3rd with hellions out and to even completey satch my expo.

hopefully this helps i have no bloody idea on terran builds just what i run into!
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Unread Tue, 16th-Apr-2013, 2:02 PM Race: Location: Australia  Total Posts Made: 328 # 3
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I'm a zerg player and i find it really quite difficult to play vs a Terran if they have walled in, gone fast factory into CC with 2 hellions on the field. It's what i seem to be running into recently. Makes it hard for me to quick expand to my 3rd with hellions out and to even completey satch my expo. hopefully this helps i have no bloody idea on terran builds just what i run into!
Yeah...thanks for the reply...more option i guess for me.
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Unread Tue, 16th-Apr-2013, 2:04 PM BnetId: Spook.389  Race: Clan: ToR  Location: Adelaide, Australia  Total Posts Made: 1,570 # 4
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12rax12gas reaper and 15cc is the really only way to open tvx atm mby i am missing something though.
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Unread Tue, 16th-Apr-2013, 2:05 PM BnetId: distyL.742  Race: Clan: eMp  Location: Adelaide  Total Posts Made: 233 # 5
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I think scouting your opponent is the best advice to begin with.
seeing and reacting to there build.
if you have a general idea of how other builds work and what the timings will be you can react better.
some games might not be possible to get a FE, some might.
Make sure you have good map control before you move any SCV's out to a expo.

We can practice if you like, always fun learning that way.



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Unread Tue, 16th-Apr-2013, 2:05 PM BnetId: distyL.742  Race: Clan: eMp  Location: Adelaide  Total Posts Made: 233 # 6
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12rax12gas reaper and 15cc is the really only way to open tvx atm mby i am missing something though.
reaper provides that perfect scout aswell

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Unread Tue, 16th-Apr-2013, 4:03 PM Race: Location: Australia  Total Posts Made: 328 # 8
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I think scouting your opponent is the best advice to begin with.
seeing and reacting to there build.
if you have a general idea of how other builds work and what the timings will be you can react better.
some games might not be possible to get a FE, some might.
Make sure you have good map control before you move any SCV's out to a expo.

We can practice if you like, always fun learning that way.



I try to scout...but on big map i can't afford to delay if i going expo or not.
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what about the 15 gas reactor expands?
Yeah...i am talking to a friend about that. He probable can show me the Build or something
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