[kpb]

Please delete thread

[HuT]

MMM OWNS gateway units.. especially when he has a decent number of upgrades.. you need to get colossus or HT's out, stimmed MM rips through gateway units.

[kpb]

yes but with his production, i couldnt because I had absolutly NO timing window. he had a larger army all the time

[kpb]

i dont understand why MULEs havnt been nerfed yet. if you can keep up production with 20 harvesters on technically 1 base against an opponent with 52 and 2 bases... theres a problem

[HuT]

Why should they be nerfed?

-o- Terran can't keep up with the Probe / Drone production of P / Z...

[kpb]

no but when they lose all there harvesters they can still keep up LOTS of production with MULEs... if toss loses all their probes there stuffed. if terran does they can still win

[HuT]

No, they cant keep up with lots of production.. they can support a bit, but MULEs don't = a saturated mineral line.

[kpb]

well in his case it did. he kept up production of 5 raxes with MULES and even day[9] says MULEs are OP.

[HuT]

Proof or it didn't happen.

[kpb]

im not very technological. how do u get replays out of ure files?

[HuT]

Doesn't matter, we're talking about why you got owned by by MMM.

1. You didn't have colossus
2. You didn't have HT
3. If you're worried about keeping up with T production.. don't 4 gate, expand
4. Better sentry / FF usage.

[kpb]

okay looking back man i was just angry at the fact i got knocked out on my possibly last BSG tourney. and eliminate option 4 cos my sentry usage was quite good.

[kpb]

thanks for changing my post moderators...

[inFeZa]

Originally Posted by HuT

MMM OWNS gateway units.. especially when he has a decent number of upgrades.. you need to get colossus or HT's out, stimmed MM rips through gateway units.

Heh.

When i play Terran i usually open VR's when i see a tech lab/marauder, they usually have no idea what to do because they just love their marauders so much.

[BoxeR]

Haha i had bout 6 medivacs think tht helped the most ingame

[HuT]

Originally Posted by PoisoN

Heh.

When i play Terran i usually open VR's when i see a tech lab/marauder, they usually have no idea what to do because they just love their marauders so much.

Yeah, and when you make it T3, if you don't auto-win, you're imba lategame so yeah.

[Xeen]

Protoss is a lot less 'imba' lategame when Terrans know how to multitask and make ghosts.

Originally Posted by HuT

Why should they be nerfed?

-o- Terran can't keep up with the Probe / Drone production of P / Z...

One big reason. They allow Terran's maximum one-base income to completely outdo the other races. This is really critical when it comes to the power of T one-base allins, because other races fall behind by one-basing in response, but expanding opens a huge timing window. Not only does the P (for instance) expansion have to pay for itself, the income has to be weighed against the inflated T one-base income. This means T can sit on one base for a good ten minutes against 1gate FE and not really be behind in terms of supply or army.

If MULEs couldn't mine over SCVs, or simply made up worker difference without inflating income past max saturation point, a lot of those builds would be significantly less viable.

[HuT]

Originally Posted by Xeen

If MULEs couldn't mine over SCVs, or simply made up worker difference without inflating income past max saturation point, a lot of those builds would be significantly less viable.

..which would decrease the amount of flexibility Terran offers.

[kpb]

every race is flexible. terran economy is > then any other. even though zerg is suppose to be higher. but it isnt. MULE's close up the gap to the point where 1 base T vs 1 base P = 1200 income for terran and 900 for protoss. meaning the P needs to expand and/or 1 base aswell. if they one base aswell there economy cant keep p. if they expand the t kills them. 1 base Terran = OP

[Aean(:]

Originally Posted by kpb

every race is flexible. terran economy is > then any other. even though zerg is suppose to be higher. but it isnt. MULE's close up the gap to the point where 1 base T vs 1 base P = 1200 income for terran and 900 for protoss. meaning the P needs to expand and/or 1 base aswell. if they one base aswell there economy cant keep p. if they expand the t kills them. 1 base Terran = OP

Terran is the most flexible race, since you can switch buildings to change addons, etc. 1 base terran isn't THAT op, protoss can manage with it. Look at all the high level replays, do you see terrans doing 1base 1base 1base all the time? no. protoss can deal with it, you just cant. "if they expand t kills them" are you even using forcefields?