SC2SEA.com - Starcraft 2 SEA eSports Community Site


  • Home
  • About
  • Streams
  • Features
  • Tournaments
  • Forums
SC2SEA.com - Starcraft 2 SEA eSports Community Site > Starcraft 2 Discussion > Bronze Silver Gold > [TvZ] What can I do more?
About Us
An Overview of sc2sea
About Us
Contact us
Join our team!
Features
Live Streams
Replays
SEABets
Site Achievements
Articles
Article Archive
Who's Who
sc2sea.com Weekly Tournaments
Tournaments
Every Saturday BSG Open - (Bronze, Silver, Gold)
Every Sunday GPD Open - (Gold, Platinum, Diamond)
Monthly Sunday Masters Cup
Oseanic Championship Series 2015
Point Standings
The Grandmaster Manual
1. Introduction
2. Basics
3. Advanced
4. Anti-Cheese
5. Protoss
6. Zerg
7. Terran
8. Summary
9. Bonus Content!
Coaching
TGM Member Only Forums
TGM Official Coaches
Misc
Help us Rate TGM!!
Suggest what you'll like to see!
Need help? Contact Support!
Community Links
Members List
Search Forums
 
Advanced Search
Search Downloads
Advanced Search
Go to Page...
Community
House Clans
Clans
No recent threads.
Community
No recent threads.
Tournaments
No recent threads.
Latest Blogs New
tier list of people...
asdfSchnitzel
My Life Was Turned...
Sc2Clare
I've been playing...
SLCN.Wally
My Starcraft/eSpor...
syfChadMann
My Starcraft/eSpor...
syfChadMann
General
Stickied Threads
No recent threads.
General Threads
No recent threads.
StarCraft II
Starcraft General
No recent threads.
Strategy Discussion
No recent threads.
BSG Discussion
No recent threads.
Other Games
Other Games
No recent threads.
Sports
No recent threads.
News
News Archive
No recent threads.
Tournament News
No recent threads.
Articles Archive
Replays
Photo Gallery
Mark all forums as read
Reply
Display Modes
Thread Tools
View First Unread View First Unread
Unread Tue, 1st-Jan-2013, 12:48 AM Race: Location: SG  Total Posts Made: 3 # 1
donma
Default Avatar
[TvZ] What can I do more?

TVZ Antiga

Other than macro which I still need to improve on, what else do I need to do? Should I rush out siege tanks or focus on double medivac around 8 min mark?

TvZ Entomed

For this one, what can I do? Drop earlier or scans to see the ultra caverns? Input please?

Happy New Year in advance!!

Quick Comments
 Antel0pe:  
welcome to our community~ :D
Attached Files
File Type: sc2replay Antiga Shipyard TvZ_10.SC2Replay (50.9 KB, 10 views)
File Type: sc2replay Entombed Valley TvZ_9.SC2Replay (71.8 KB, 3 views)
donma is offline   OLD POST Reply With Quote
donma
View Public Profile
Send a private message to donma
Find all posts by donma
Unread Tue, 1st-Jan-2013, 12:52 AM BnetId: [ToR]FracTaL.585  Race: Clan: ToR  Location: Singapore  Total Posts Made: 113 # 2
ToRFracTaL
ToRFracTaL's Avatar
Great Beginnings
Achievements (1)
Let me start of with saying welcome to SC2SEA donma! I hope you enjoy your time here. Feel free to ask me help for anything really.

You should work on your micro a bit. If you see a unit with low health pull it behind your army. Every unit counts as it still does the same dmg even with low health. Also when scanning you should scan behind mineral patches etc, thats normally where Zergs hide their tech. Even though I'm not Terran the stuff I told you are normally what higher league Terrans do ^_^ If you need any help feel free to talk at the Chatbox. I'll be there often.

Good luck
FracTaL
___________________________________
|Name : Renzo "FracTaL" Canare|
|WoL: |HoTS: |
ToRFracTaL is offline Send a message via Skype™ to ToRFracTaL   OLD POST Reply With Quote
ToRFracTaL
View Public Profile
Send a private message to ToRFracTaL
Find all posts by ToRFracTaL
Unread Tue, 1st-Jan-2013, 1:05 AM BnetId: arteezy  Race: Location: Singapore  Total Posts Made: 622 # 3
Antel0pe
Antel0pe's Avatar
Tourneys Joined: 5
If you aren't really confident in your micro, I'd suggest going mech. Mech is better ways as you're less prone to fungal/banes/ling surrounds.
But you should always prioritize your macro first in BSG.
In the first replay, you started floating a lot of minerals past the 10 minute mark, when you start doing that, it's a good time to drop a third and get more production going. Also pure bio isn't that great vs zerg.
You also started rallying workers to ur natural too early. you had like 10 scvs on minerals in ur main and 20 in your natural. Optimally you should be aim for 2 per mineral patch which is 16 workers, which is exactly 2 rows ~
You also have poor map vision in the mid game. If you wall-in, you should be safe from most counterattacks. Also try harassing/attacking your opponent more.
Just watch out for supply block, use a better unit composition and you should be good.
___________________________________

Check my stream out here
RIP SolaRity 4/1/2013
Antel0pe is offline Send a message via Skype™ to Antel0pe   OLD POST Reply With Quote
Antel0pe
View Public Profile
Send a private message to Antel0pe
Find all posts by Antel0pe
Unread Tue, 1st-Jan-2013, 9:01 AM Race: Location: Ausyralia  Total Posts Made: 8 # 4
terranmilf
Default Avatar
hi domam

seems like boith zerg likes to get infestation pit and burrow around 9 mins in both games

if u attack before 9 mins with .. marine maurader / marines with +1 and stim / 2 medi etc it would affext zerg late game

because you didn attack before 10 mins, both zergs got to build 12 drones at a time and heaps of upgrades
terranmilf is offline   OLD POST Reply With Quote
terranmilf
View Public Profile
Send a private message to terranmilf
Find all posts by terranmilf
Unread Tue, 1st-Jan-2013, 9:57 AM BnetId: breadfan.875  Race: Clan: ToR  Location: Brisbane, Australia  Total Posts Made: 1,073 # 5
breadfan
breadfan's Avatar
Tourneys Joined: 14
To infinity and beyond!The Manner Man
Achievements (2)
Antiga

Macro
- Tighten up your macro. Here's some specific advice so you have a place to start
  • When you wall off with depot-rax-depot, the SCV who builds the second depot can go straight down and build a command center. In that time, you'll have made 2 marines.
  • Make your 16th SCV when going gasless with second depot before expand. Your rax will finish and your SCV will be building - let it finish before OC.
  • You don't need to bring another SCV to make your depot - just throw it down after the rax finishes. That way, you get more mining time!
- Take a 3rd base - 10:00-12:00 is a good approximation if there hasn't been a major conflict, and if you notice it's after 15:00 and you have no 3rd, alarm bells should ring.
- Generally, your SCV production is getting there, but still needs a lot of work. Aim to have around 50 SCVs at 10:00 (I think 48 is reasonable with that particular expand) - you had 39. That's 9 SCVs missed altogether, or 153 game seconds, or more than 2 and a half minutes out of the first 10 without building an SCV. Pretty substantial, eh? I do the math for you because it's easy to think "I'm doing pretty good" and not realise how huge a problem it is. I fell into that trap myself.

Scouting
- While good bunker placement, you are playing scared. You saw he went hatch first, so you didn't need to bunker so early (you did it good on entombed). Also, consider walling off with buildings at the front to give you protection (again, somethine you did good on entombed).

Other
- Nice effort at multipronged drop harrass. Doing that while pushing the middle would be even better.
- You have a good number of rax
- Keep checking for idle SCVs (F1 by default)


Entombed

Entombed was generally an improvement in some areas. Still only 40 SCVs at 10:00 this time, but that's fine - it's something to work on!

- Don't clump your army up so much. There were engagements you lost that you could have won because too many units were caught by a fungal/not firing at the back. It's a good habit to get into that when you are setting up a position, say at the watch tower, to spread out. That's also an easy way to always have the better concave.
- Your first push was very damaging. I would have kept on piling on that pressure. Maybe followed it up with a drop at the natural while hitting the 3rd by ground again.


In General

- I recommend you make more decisive attacks. It's one thing to do some nice little drop harrass around the sides, but you need to to tie in with some big time aggression.
- Use control groups for things like drops.
- Also, if you look at your bank and see a huge excess of minerals, throw down a ton of rax, and then spam that A key. Generally you're staying ahead of your opponents on unit count (until getting supply blocked) but you're never maxing out.
- Make sure you are using hotkeys for everything. That little section at the lower right hand corner of the screen with all the icons to build things? Your mouse should never go there (maybe to turn on auto repair if you don't remap it, but you should remap it)

Otherwise, keep practicing. Amount of time spent is the single greatest indicator of speed of improvement.

Quick Comments
 donma:  
thanks i will take note ^_^
___________________________________

Last edited by breadfan; Tue, 1st-Jan-2013 at 10:00 AM.
breadfan is offline Send a message via Skype™ to breadfan   OLD POST Reply With Quote
breadfan
View Public Profile
Send a private message to breadfan
Find all posts by breadfan

Reply

« Previous Thread | Next Thread »

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
View All Posts View All
Linear Mode Linear Mode
Hybrid Mode Switch to Hybrid Mode
Threaded Mode Switch to Threaded Mode

Events
Upcoming Events Add
No events scheduled in
the next 7 days.
OSC SEA Participation Bonus
Live Streams
No streams online.
Open SEABets
No open bets.
2015 OSEANIC Series
Latest Results
Americas Open #110 KeeN
OSC SEA Weekly #24 Probe
SC2Online Comm Open #38 aLive
February EU Ladder Heroes Nerchio
February NA Ladder Heroes TRUE
ANZ Cup #12 iaguz
Filthy NA Weekly #16 Semper
Proxy Tempest Open #43 PiLiPiLi
Top 20 OSC Rankings
1ByuN
2Seither
3DemiLove
4PiLiPiLi
5Kelazhur
6Cham
7iaguz
8aLive
9Solar
10KeeN
11EnDerr
12KingkOng
13TRUE
14GuMiho
15Probe
16puCK
17Snute
18PandaBearMe
19PiG
20Ryung
Full Point Standings
Earn extra points with Challenge Matches!
Bounties
Defeat these players and collect the $'s!
ByuN$100
INnoVation$75
Solar$75
Neeb$60
herO$50
GuMiho$50
Nerchio$50
TRUE$50
uThermal$50
Kelazhur$40
MajOr$40
Scarlett$40
Snute$40
aLive$30
Bly$30
iAsonu$30
KeeN$30
PiLiPiLi$30
puCK$30
Ryung$30
Cham$25
Cyan$25
iaguz$25
Guru$25
Seither$25
Semper$25
JonSnow$15
PandaBearMe$15
Probe$15
Latest Collected
Yours 2-0 Neeb $60
SC2ONLINE Comm Open #38
Azure 2-0 Seither $25
ANZ Cup #12
Cham 2-0 Cyan $25
OSC All Stars #24
FuturE 2-0 KeeN $30
ESL Americas Open #109
Donations
Donate using Paypal!

Even the smallest donations help keep sc2sea running! All donations go towards helping our site run including our monthly server hosting fees and sc2sea sponsored community tournaments we host. Find out more here.
Home - Contact Us - FAQ - Members List - Advertise - Terms of Service - Top - Mobile-friendly (alpha)
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.2
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
The contents of this webpage are copyright of sc2sea.com © 2010-2015. All Rights Reserved.
The Grandmaster Manual is a Starcraft 2 Guide created and owned by sc2sea.com
Starcraft2 is a trademark of Blizzard Entertainment, this is a community fan site and no infringement is intended.
Custom artwork by Zeus, Banner designed by Cute, other artworks is used with permission with credits listed here. vBulletin skin by CompletevB.com