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Unread Sun, 6th-May-2012, 8:04 PM BnetId: elain  Race: Location: Houston, Texas  Total Posts Made: 347 # 1
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ZvP double gas 4 gate after FFE

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Hi,

What's the correct response to after dealing with double gas 4 gate off FFE?
This toss (JesseYLToT) transitions into robo blink into third base, similar to what Yang does

(I know I under-droned and had poor upgrades in this game)
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Unread Sun, 6th-May-2012, 8:15 PM Who's Who:   BnetId: NvPinder.933  Race: Clan: TA (Nv)  Location: Melbourne  Total Posts Made: 885 # 2
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6:30 Roach warren

build a few lings while roach warren builds

then build some roaches when roach warren finishes (dont overproduce them)

then build drones again till 70.
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6:30 Roach warren

build a few lings while roach warren builds

then build some roaches when roach warren finishes (dont overproduce them)

then build drones again till 70.
thanks for the reply, but I was wondering what to do AFTER the 4 gate pressure

The toss turtles with sentry immortal and gets a third up eventually :|
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Unread Sun, 6th-May-2012, 8:52 PM Who's Who:   BnetId: NvPinder.933  Race: Clan: TA (Nv)  Location: Melbourne  Total Posts Made: 885 # 4
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thanks for the reply, but I was wondering what to do AFTER the 4 gate pressure

The toss turtles with sentry immortal and gets a third up eventually :|
3 main options,

1) hardcore roach pressure off 60-70 drones hoping to break the protoss's third (known commonly as 'stephano style' where you max out at anywhere between 11-13 minutes depending on the protoss's damage with his harass and your ability to macro).

2) muta-ling into take the whole ******* map with lots of crawlers and threatening counter-attacks if he ever moves out.

3) really fast tech to broodlords whilst building infestors/crawlers as defense and taking a 4th.

Or some combination of any of the above three (1 transition to 2 works fine, 2 transition to 3 also works really naturally since youre building crawlers anyway, 1 straight to 3 bypassing 2 is generally not so great as you leave yourself open massively to 3-base immortal/collosi timings).

Which route you go can be somewhat map dependent, option 1 is great on maps if the third is hard to hold for protoss(such as Korhal compound, metalopolis), option 2 is great on maps where rush distance is long and has a lot of bases that are relatively spread (metropolis, tal'darim) whilst going straight for option 3 is generally better for maps where you can take >3 bases off just a few small chokes or one large choke (shakurus is best for this in terms of how easy it is to mass crawler the mid of the map).

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Unread Sun, 6th-May-2012, 9:08 PM BnetId: elain  Race: Location: Houston, Texas  Total Posts Made: 347 # 5
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thanks!
1->2->3 sounds really smooth, I'll try that out

Though I recall watching a game on mOOnGLaDe, he was really ahead, made mutas and lost ._.
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Roaches and lings beat everything LOL
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when ever i see someone turtling i take the whole map if u see him moving out u can max instantly!!
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