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Unread Sat, 3rd-Mar-2012, 7:49 PM BnetId: statix.501 EU  Race: Location: England  Total Posts Made: 144 # 1
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ZvT - 2 rax, bunker rushing . . help!

Every game (and i really do mean every game!) its a ZvT in korean ladder a bunker goes up infront of my nat if i 15 hatch, ive watched replays from here, online, everywhere and pulling the 3 drones and all that less than 50% of the time succeeds.

Has anyone got any personal replays where they defend this or can someone drill against me for an hour or two
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Unread Sat, 3rd-Mar-2012, 7:53 PM BnetId: wTlzq.495  Race: Clan: wT  Location: Singapore  Total Posts Made: 207 # 2
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1) send your 9 supply overlord to your expo
2) the moment u see a bunker, regardless of where it is, pull at least 4 drones.
3) if there is more than one scv, pull alot more( this means they are committing to the bunker rush)
4) target the scvs/marines( not the bunker)
5) try to delay until u can get lings, if u want to play extra safe get an instant spine( queens can wait)

note: do not chase out too far with the drones; your focus is on the bunker not getting up
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I see more pro's going 15 hatch 14 pool 17 gas these days perhaps to deal with such things?
But if its 2 rax don't be shy with how many drones you pull
Better to have your econ behind than be totally dead

Have some drones attacking the bunker as well as going for scv and other drones you want to chase away the marines until you have lings queens and a spine down.
There is no real trick as I'm sure you know all this and the theory of how to defeat it but its like any of those cheese plays - it comes down to micro and multi tasking
Spend too long microing after your pool has pop instead of building those lings/queens asap and its game over
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Unread Sat, 3rd-Mar-2012, 8:00 PM BnetId: statix.501 EU  Race: Location: England  Total Posts Made: 144 # 4
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yeah, ive tried this but the stutter step they do is insane on this ladder its like so fast the marines are moving and never stop shooting, just one marine is so So effective, i totally admire it
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Unread Sat, 3rd-Mar-2012, 8:27 PM BnetId: Paroxysm.938  Race: Clan: ToR  Location: Townsville, Australia  Total Posts Made: 626 # 5
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I normally open with 15 hatch, 15 pool, 24 (ish) gas. realistically, you have to pull more than 4 drones to hold off just one bunker with ease, otherwise it will be purely down to your micro abilities. Otherwise, grab about 10, let 3 drones target each SCV, and the rest have to try and get a good surround on marines and PREVENT them from getting remotely close to the bunkers. If they do, you have to try and get spines down at your natural, which can be really difficult! Good luck, if you need more help swing me a PM
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Unread Sun, 4th-Mar-2012, 10:10 AM BnetId: statix.501 EU  Race: Location: England  Total Posts Made: 144 # 6
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np thanks you guys, i just need some partners who will drill these things with me . . my only other option is to pay PiG $25 a session. No one seems to want to practice, only just play games at you which i dont mind and all but pretty useless if they just do their same old build all the time
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Key to countering 2 rax is to make drones and then take a third.

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Unread Sun, 4th-Mar-2012, 11:15 AM BnetId: KezzGG.930  BattleTag: kezz#6356  Clan: FS  Total Posts Made: 227 # 8
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np thanks you guys, i just need some partners who will drill these things with me . . my only other option is to pay PiG $25 a session. No one seems to want to practice, only just play games at you which i dont mind and all but pretty useless if they just do their same old build all the time
Have you got an NA/SEA account?
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Unread Sun, 4th-Mar-2012, 1:15 PM BnetId: wTMillionair.430  Race: Clan: wng  Location: Malaysia  Total Posts Made: 15 # 9
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Dude, u need to specify whether the 2 rax come from his own base or proxied .. Whether it is 11/11 or 12/14 etc. Drone micro wil help u defend ( 3 drones beat 1 marine , 4 drones stop 1 bunker from going up no matter how he micro his scv ) while u get 1 spine n lings up.
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Unread Mon, 12th-Mar-2012, 12:07 AM Race: Location: Czech republic, Europe  Total Posts Made: 11 # 10
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Hello,
You should try these things:
1) pull your overlord off top of your hatchery so you gain vision
2) pull 4-5 drones and shift + click building scv, so if it moves your drones will follow it and won't stop attacking
3) try to catch marine reinforcements, if you keep 1 or 2 drones attacking scv and pull 2-3 drones in front of bunker so marines won't get in, it will definitely make you survive
If you are unable to do these things, you might try to go spawning pool first, but that will make you behind in economy and not always terran will bunker rush you.
If you lose hatchery, try to baneling bust him.
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