[frozen_water92]

Hi guys. This is my first thread in this forum so go easy on me k.

I would like to find out which build order is good enough (if you go hatch before pool first) so that by the time your hatch is finished, you will have enough food and minerals to immediately build 2 queens simultaneously, at the same time, you have a bit of gas mining going on already for ling speed. Please share.

The reason I'm asking this is because I normally go for:
10 ovie
14 extrator
14 pool
16 ovie
16 queen
then see what happens from there onwards

This build fits me very well if i'm planning to go on one base because by the time your pool finishes, you get 100 gas and 250+ minerals for a queen and ling speed.

But here's my problem. I wanna learn how to go for a more economically strong build and have a smooth opening just like my current BO. So if there's anyone out there who can help me, pls share. or if you're interested in SHOWING it to me, I would very much be appreciative of that too. Thanks.

[Apth]

Originally Posted by frozen_water92

by the time your hatch is finished, you will have enough food and minerals to immediately build 2 queens simultaneously, at the same time, you have a bit of gas mining going on already for ling speed.

9 Overlord
14 Hatch
15 Pool
14 Gas
16 Overlord

Should give you 40-50 gas and 300 minerals when your second hatch and pool finish at the same time.

At the moment I'm playing around with Overpool openings:

10 Overlord
10 Pool
Drones to 13
Pool up -> Queen, 3 Lings
18 Hatch/Gas depending on opponent

It gives you 6 lings to kill probes/pylons with, an early pool to deal with those stupid SCV all-ins and a decent macro opening. I'm liking it so far.

[frozen_water92]

this build looks like the one i'm looking for but there's still smth i need to ask.

if you go for 14 hatch, 15 pool, wouldn't that leave you vulnerable to early rushes?

[nirvAnA]

hatch first opening like Apth's is for ZVT. You still need good drone micro and need to know how to hold off bunker rushes.

pool first opening is more for ZVP and ZVZ

the speed ling opening is especially good/safe vs P, glade does that every game and crushes with it

[ToRXypha]

I use to use 15 hatch 15 pool, however most people these days especially when i got to diamond are quite capable of shutting you down,

I now use 14 pool 18 hatch delays the expansion a little but you very unlikely to lose it due to being able to respond better to any early aggression. it does give Terrans a slight lead on econ however you are much more likely to overtake theirs and will find are more capable of delaying there own expansion.

[eXcLusiVe]

i go sometimes 14 hatch 15-16 pool coz one of them the timing when ur hatch finishes ur pool will finish so u can double queen strait away :P

[PhilipScrewdriver]

against a terran, my diamond zerg friend told me 14 hatch, 14 pool 18 gas. Delaying your gas will give you more minerals to make zerglings and hold off bunker rushes, it also give you minerals for spines if hellions come along.