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Unread Tue, 15th-Nov-2011, 1:46 AM Who's Who:   Race: Clan: iRL  Location: Singapore  Total Posts Made: 1,494 # 1
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The mono-Unit Challenge.

I'm only posting this in the forums section and not the blogs because I may want to document/compile stuff, and see if anyone else is interested.

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Can you win a game with X?

Because I fulfil all of the above 5 points, I'm going to embark on a personal challenge and just checking if anyone would like to join me just for FUN. I know it's going to sound lame or cheesy or stupid or dumb to people, but this is for FUN DAMMIT so stop being a wet blanket rawr.
It's ok if noone joins me I will just do it myself then and document my own experience for your entertainment.

The challenge is : win a game with just a single type of unit the whole game.

Basic Rules:
- 1v1 only. For team games there are monobattles which is different from what I'm trying to accomplish
- Must be a Platinum or higher league opponent (reason being pulling off any of these against a new Bronze player isn't that much of an achievement) (If you're BSG and still want to try this by all means )
- Must be a proper game (i.e. having your friend just hold position his units doesn't count. He shouldn't know what you're trying to do. Your opponent should have half a brain and be trying to win)
- Save a replay!

Just going to list out the possibilities I can think of:
: Drones, Queens, Zerglings, Roaches, Hydralisks, Banelings, Mutalisks, Infestors, Ultralisks, Broodlords (Corruptors, Overlords/Overseers not possible)
: SCVs, Marines, Marauders, Ghosts, Reapers, Hellions, Tanks, Thors, Vikings (??), Banshees, Battlecruiser
(Medivacs not possible, not quite sure how Vikings will work but in theory it is possible. Not sure if SCVs can be done)
: Probes, Zealots, Sentries, Stalkers, Dark Templars, High Templars (??), Archons, Immortals, Colussus, Void Rays, Carriers
(Observers, Warp Prisms, Mothership left out. High Templar most likely has to be excluded. Not sure if Probes can be done)

Some additional clauses have to be added to make things possible.
- Queens/Workers are always allowed regardless of which unit is being used
- Progression units are allowed to be made(e.g. Zerglings for Banelings, Templars for Archons) but not to be used to attack
- For Tier 3 units (Battlecruiser, Carrier, Broodlords/Ultralisks), Tier 1 units (specifically: Marines, Zealots, Zerglings) are allowed for defensive purposes.
- For Factoryunits/Vikings, Marines are allowed for defensive purposes
- To clarify, 'defensive purposes' simply means you cannot use a mixture of Marines + X to win the game. However, early marine pressure / bunker harass is allowed.
- Defensive structures are allowed (Spines, Cannons), but cannot be instrumental in your win. For example, if you're going mass carriers to win, you cannot have cannon rushed out half his base beforehand to set him super far behind.
- (Will add more to the list when I discover impossibilities)


I will document my progress in blog entries, should start with worker rushes tomorrow We'll see.

I think the main challenge is figuring out how to make it work from a strategic standpoint. Players are obviously not stupid and will be scouting you and reacting to what they see. How do you get it to work? Fakes? Feints? Some are obviously easy (e.g. Marines, Lings) but some do get challenging (Ghosts?! Vikings?!? Infestors? Colussus?? (only) )

I'm thinking of more Basic Rules or Clauses I have to add, so please do let me know if you think of anything that should be included. Thanks!


Once again, I'm sorry if you find this stupid and a waste of your time to read, I did already warn you beforehand. Regardless, I'm going to have fun trying to accomplish these and will document it in a blog so... you can wait for it Or join too!

Remember, it's not about whether it's been done before, it's whether YOU can do it!


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Completed challenges:
Drones only
Zerglings only
Roaches only (no Zerglings, not 7 RR)
Marines only (no Bunkers, no upgrades)
Marauders only (no Marines!)
Banshees only (no Marines!)



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Great idea bro!

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Unread Tue, 15th-Nov-2011, 1:51 AM BnetId: TABottles.446  BattleTag: 6589  Race: Clan: TA  Location: Tasmania, Australia  Total Posts Made: 430 # 2
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Simpsons did it.

I'd love to do it - i've done it with marines many of times but maybe I can cook up something more fresh for the sc2 hipsters.

Cool idea, though Day9 owns the copyright i'm sure.
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Unread Tue, 15th-Nov-2011, 1:54 AM Who's Who:   Race: Clan: iRL  Location: Singapore  Total Posts Made: 1,494 # 3
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Ah I knew it would have been done somewhere before. I know Day9 does alot of these funny challenges with his Funday Monday thing.

Nevertheless, it'll still be something fun to attempt and document.

I'll tweak the OP tmr to reflect the fact that it's been done, deadbeat now going to bed.
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Unread Tue, 15th-Nov-2011, 2:07 AM BnetId: DtorR.199  Race: Location: Melbourne, Australia  Total Posts Made: 141 # 4
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I remember seeing slayersdragon troll lower leagues by going only ghosts. Not sure if it is possible though for any other unit other than the marine in higher leagues. Still would be fun to see someone try.
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Unread Tue, 15th-Nov-2011, 2:08 AM Who's Who:   BnetId: aLtnirvAnA.951  BattleTag: nirvAnA#1429  Race: Clan: aLt  Location: Singapore  Total Posts Made: 4,857 # 5
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I got an idea! The mofoship challenge. Make a mothership every PvZ and PvT and win 10 games in a row! You have to make a mothership every game, losing a game resets the counter back to 0. Having the game end before your mothership also resets the counter back to zero.
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Unread Tue, 15th-Nov-2011, 2:18 AM BnetId: TABottles.446  BattleTag: 6589  Race: Clan: TA  Location: Tasmania, Australia  Total Posts Made: 430 # 6
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Yeah I fairly certain that's where the monobattle custom maps derived from. I'm sure you can think up something equally as intriguing for the masses.

Here's some patented scenarios i'd like to let out:

Warp Prism transport only! Anywhere but you and your opponents base / natural is all hot lava! Use only the warp prism to cart your ground units around. Additionally - no proxy pylons may be warped in as that is cheating. Warp ins from prisms may be used only if in the No Lava Zone

No Collosus Allowed <-- don't be so quick to assume. You can have collosus if you so please. Your opponent however cannot. Be a total boss and prevent the opponent from getting out a collosus the WHOLE GAME. Must be legitimate i.e no one base nastiness, be creative. Alternatively if the opponent has no intention of going Collosus you must beg for one and if he complies mess his plans. Otherwise gg chalk that one up on the ol' wins streak

Tug of War on Ladder As goes for the tug of war custom map you must rally ALL attacking units to your opponents base as they're built - you are allowed to A Move them during the rally - no micro. kill them with a constant stream of units.


What do you think?
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Unread Tue, 15th-Nov-2011, 3:41 AM BnetId: AsGZealo.172  Race: Clan: AsG  Location: perth, australia  Total Posts Made: 607 # 7
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can work with any T 1 unit i think (in diamond at least)

i've done it with roaches, stalkers, lings, rines, zealots.

people get kinda upset/bm at you though

i'll try to find reps of interestingish games

edit: forgot you can win with cannons lol

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Unread Tue, 15th-Nov-2011, 4:24 AM Who's Who:   Total Posts Made: 877 # 8
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I pick zerglings.
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Unread Tue, 15th-Nov-2011, 5:55 AM Who's Who:   Race: Clan: eCKo  Location: Adelaide, Australia  Total Posts Made: 750 # 9
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I've got like 5-10 reps by now of me going only zerglings.

As in before this challenge was posted.

So, I should try something more difficult...
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Unread Tue, 15th-Nov-2011, 7:24 AM Who's Who:   Clan: None  Location: Melbourne  Total Posts Made: 2,231 # 10
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Unread Tue, 15th-Nov-2011, 9:06 AM Who's Who:   BnetId: iMSystem.117  BattleTag: System#6328  Race: Clan: iM  Location: Gold Coast, Australia  Total Posts Made: 923 # 11
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I'm currently trying to remember where I have seen something like this before, but basically there was a thread somewhere, that had challenges of certain aspects that you had to complete in a Ladder game.

This reminded me of that, still looks fun.

Oh shit, it was actually in HoN.

Here is the thread
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I got an idea! The mofoship challenge. Make a mothership every PvZ and PvT and win 10 games in a row! You have to make a mothership every game, losing a game resets the counter back to 0. Having the game end before your mothership also resets the counter back to zero.
I think Pinder already did this.

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Unread Tue, 15th-Nov-2011, 9:10 AM BnetId: Darkphoenix 107  Race: Location: Melbourne  Total Posts Made: 76 # 13
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sounds like a normal day on the ladder when i play as toss, warp prisms & motherships ftw
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Unread Tue, 15th-Nov-2011, 9:14 AM Who's Who:   BnetId: xGKingBenji.281  Race: Location: Sydney  Total Posts Made: 1,457 # 14
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Step 1: Play Terran
Step 2: Pick Marines
Step 3: Play a standard game
Step 4: ????
Step 5: Profit!

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Unread Tue, 15th-Nov-2011, 9:40 AM Who's Who:   BnetId: iMSystem.117  BattleTag: System#6328  Race: Clan: iM  Location: Gold Coast, Australia  Total Posts Made: 923 # 15
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Just thought of one:

Force your opponent to early GG via the use of Hallucination.
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Unread Tue, 15th-Nov-2011, 9:41 AM Who's Who:   BnetId: ToRErasmus.733  Race: Clan: ToR  Location: Sydney  Total Posts Made: 1,454 # 16
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Step 1: Play Terran
Step 2: Pick Marines
Step 3: Play a standard game
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Step 5: Profit!
if you're gonna mass marines as a challenge, don't mine gas so no upgrades/stim/shields or even reactors.
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Defensive structures only tbh!

Just have a limit on the amount of marines allowed in a bunker etc.
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challenge: win a game by doing a bunker train across the map for instant reinforcements...

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Unread Tue, 15th-Nov-2011, 9:57 AM Who's Who:   BnetId: xGKingBenji.281  Race: Location: Sydney  Total Posts Made: 1,457 # 19
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if you're gonna mass marines as a challenge, don't mine gas so no upgrades/stim/shields or even reactors.
So play a korean style then, got it.
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So play a korean style then, got it.
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