[Crucius]

I've had an idea pondering on the back of my mind for the past few days, and I figured I should throw it out there and get the opinions of the community.

Basically the idea revolves around conducting SC2 activities in order to generate donations for charities. It would mainly revolve around friendly (yet structured and organised) tournaments, be it 1v1, 2v2, etc. Most likely it will be of a buy-in format, and a percentage of the money obtained from the buy in, will be set aside for a prize pool (assuming no sponsors are involved), where as the rest will be donated to a recognized charity (all evidence of the transaction will be supplied, of course). And as a rough idea of how it would work if there was a sponsor involved would be that they would "match" the buy-in sum, or donate more than the generated amount.

The buy-in amount wouldn't be too large, approximately around AU$5. The reasoning for $5 is because, if we have the amount too low, most of it is lost to paypal fees; where as having it too large would result in people not wanting to participate (in general).

So the maths on that would be; assuming we have a 64 starting pool. $5 buy in would translate into $4.80 or so after paypal fees. 64x$4.80=$307. We could set $50-$100 aside for the prize pool, and the remainder would be donated to the charity. On a larger scale, it's not much, but every bit counts, right?

Other "activities" would have to be relatively small compared to the tournament work, and in all honesty I can't really think of any other ones at this moment in time that would be all that effective, except for viewing parties, but even then, most wouldn't really pay too much to join in on that.

So basically, I want to hear what you guys think about the idea; be it whether you would have interest in joining in on the tournament, the fact there is a buy-in, the cost of the buy-in, and/or other activities that could be run.

As, just to throw it out there in advanced, due to the licensing terms with Blizzard, people under the age of 13 are not allowed to participate in our tournaments, so if you're not over 13, please share your thoughts anyway, but keep the fact that we can't allow you to participate without written parental consent, etc.

[Dox]

That's a really wonderful idea. I'd be behind it 100%.

[Next_rim]

Good idea, although I would deviate from 1v1 tournament idea. Skills are so vastly different. You either have to implement divisons (bsg, pd, m), with all associated problems of smurfing, or change format. Say, play FFA, or "all random". I know there are lots of nice people, who would love to play in a charitable event, but some skilled players may just come for the money. Making $25-30 on a $5 investment for beating nooblets is not that bad of a deal, but would totally ruin the competitve (read - fun) part of the tourney.

[TAriiChard]

Raynors Party !!!! so like .. 8 to a game ... assuming theres 64 people there can be 8 games with 8 people in each game ... winner goes onto the finals where the winner of the finals wins the prize pool! WOOOT

[Crucius]

Originally Posted by Next_rim

Good idea, although I would deviate from 1v1 tournament idea. Skills are so vastly different. You either have to implement divisons (bsg, pd, m), with all associated problems of smurfing, or change format. Say, play FFA, or "all random". I know there are lots of nice people, who would love to play in a charitable event, but some skilled players may just come for the money. Making $25-30 on a $5 investment for beating nooblets is not that bad of a deal, but would totally ruin the competitve (read - fun) part of the tourney.

Yeah, that'd be the largest logistical issue to resolve, but with enough planning it should work out well for everyone...or at least the larger majority.

[Dox]

Make it a Starjewelled tourney...


(Mez and Dox all-kill)

[ToRDeathsFang]

Your just saying that riiChard because your the best at Raynor Party

On topic its a great idea but it will require a lot of support from the community

[Crucius]

Originally Posted by Dox

Make it a Starjewelled tourney...


(Mez and Dox all-kill)

Never ending battle of Starjewelled Masters!

[TAriiChard]

LOL I've only won once out of like ... 20 games of raynor's party. True story.

[Next_rim]

I once hosted a forum wc3 invitational. We had beginners, as well as pro-level WCG quota contesters. I decided to do an "arena" rather than olympic elimination. There was entire pool of players in one rooster. Everyone was required to submit their race and ladder level, this information was made public. We ended up with 14-ish players. Everyone had to challenge 4 players of their choice in a bo3, and everyone could refuse to play. You could challenge a person more than once and play more sets upon mutual agreement. If anyone played less than 4 sets, he was disqualified. Logic is was follows:

-If you are noob, you play with noobs and earn points.
-If you are pro, you play with pros and earn points.
-When a noob has played all other noobs, he only has pros to challenge. He may risk to challenge a pro in order to try and get more wins to compete for the prize.
-When pro challenges a noob, the noob can refuse in light of being crushed. Or can chose to play for fun, and carry some experience out of the game.

The tourney lasted for 2 weeks. The players set a mutually convenient time for themselves. Time for matches had to be publicly announced, so people could come and watch.

I was concerned about one major flaw - what if nobody agrees to play with the pros, or there are few pros and many noobs, so noobs end up with more points out of plain number. The multiple challenge addition was designed to encourage players of relatively same skill to bash on each other trying to win more points. The most active players got more points, ofcourse, but that wasn't a necessarily bad thing. It brought the forum community together, and generated plenty of replays, smacktalk and trolling to chew on in the next 3 weeks.

Interestingly enough, everyone played with everyone. Weak players challenged pros on obscure maps with cheese strats, and we got plenty of fun moments.

There was no buy-in though, the prize pool came from forum donation pool.

[Crucius]

There was no buy-in though, the prize pool came from forum donation pool.

I'd like to give a choice to the players on whether or not they'd want to donate, and how much they'd want to donate, but then the issue becomes whether or not you'd get anyone donating.

If it turns out that people will donate when they join in regardless, then I'd be happy to just say "come and join, and if you wish to do so, donate as much or as little as you wish to the cause".

[nard]

this would be a good idea if not for the legal intricacies behind the scenes. for any charity event, one has to transparent in all matters and also in singapore's case, get a licence for hosting a charity event. not bothering with a licence would be fine until someone starts questioning where the money went to or disagreeing with a charity that the organisers had donated to. its too much hassle imo

[crAzerk]

dont say Singapore's hosting it and it'll be fine? We have too many dumb strict laws

[Crucius]

Originally Posted by nard

this would be a good idea if not for the legal intricacies behind the scenes. for any charity event, one has to transparent in all matters and also in singapore's case, get a licence for hosting a charity event. not bothering with a licence would be fine until someone starts questioning where the money went to or disagreeing with a charity that the organisers had donated to. its too much hassle imo

Well since I'm in Australia, the only legal contract I am (technically) bound to is the one with Blizzard in regards to running tournaments, but that is very loose. The charity of course will be announced when the tournament is announced (as well as my reasoning if required), so they have a choice whether or not they want to support them.

[ToRDjvillian]

Could try and make it an inter-cafe charity. Just have everyone join a chat channel.
To make it more enjoyable competitors should verse people of the same caliber.

[Zanderax]

Can I suggest that we don't have an elimination setting. I would hate to pay $5 for one game of SC2 v a Diamond that kicked the crap out of me with a 6 min push.

[Crucius]

Originally Posted by Zanderax

Can I suggest that we don't have an elimination setting. I would hate to pay $5 for one game of SC2 v a Diamond that kicked the crap out of me with a 6 min push.

Well, that's the thing. As far as SEA goes, I'm the only one in my group who does tournament stuff. So it's going to come down to what workload I can take on. If we get more people in the group, by all means, we can figure something out. But if not, what I can suggest is a double elimination (maybe), and for those who are out completely, just randomly pair them up with people of similar levels so you guys can still have some fun. Either that, or we have a huge pool, you pick your players, etc. And gain points for beating people, and of course number of points will vary depending on what level of player you chose to verse.

[Zanderax]

Just do it swiss style
EDIT : Thats what she said XD

[Paroxysm]

I am behind this 100%. If you need help organising this let me know. There are a lot of ways that this could work out with regards to raising funds for charity.. Add me on skype - nickmcguffin

[ke_ivan]

Great Idea!

Well, in Singapore, you'll probably just team up with a charity of your choice and then run the event. That removes any legal obstacles. I think it's the same in aussie. For your prize pool, you can just approach a previous sponsor that supports your charity (the prizes won't be that big) so those that join can have the freedom to give as they please. Also you can have strategy workshops, spectator are, a beginner's centre etc... if it's an online thing then donations would be made through paypal and your sponsor would be providing bandwidth and hosting (which costs nothing to them).