[DevilMayCare]

DevilMayCare looking for a team. I'm from Melbourne, have never been on an sc2 team before.

If anyone has a spot for me let me know.

[Fenner]

Do you have #dedication?

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TCPLemminks:

This guy has the #dedication

[DevilMayCare]

I work full time but I try to get as many games in as I can >.<

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syfChase:

Dedication to work good enough for me :>

[DevilMayCare]

DevilMayCare.262, forgot the number

[ToRRedemption]

May i ask what server you are GM on?

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FLuX:

Or even better, ask him his league/points on KR..

[DevilMayCare]

Just GM on Sea.

Master on Na and not good enough for grandmaster there.

Haven't played on kor.

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SayfT:

be prapred for a huge shock when you start that KR ladder :P

[ROOT`iaguz]

Teams only recruit on an invite basis. Go play in any of our numerous online tournaments to impress them. Being GM is not enough, particularly on SEA which is a joke ladder.

There are social clans you can join though.

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	Fairyking:	Lol you covered my comment ty :P
	Another:	pretty much this. GM on SEA means nothing at all

[TABjornbrandr]

Originally Posted by fray`iaguz

Teams only recruit on an invite basis. Go play in any of our numerous online tournaments to impress them. Being GM is not enough, particularly on SEA which is a joke ladder.

There are social clans you can join though.

Just for reference, DevilMayCare, don't take the above as being condescending. It's a blunt truth that is hard to tip-toe around.
Practice and play and do what you can to market yourself without looking like a retard. You'll eventually get some good attention.

[DevilMayCare]

Ok thanks guys. I knew sea ladder was a joke, but I haven't really got any other credentials.

I'll take the advice. And yeah I'll delete this thread in a little bit as I think it's done.

[TCPLemminks]

Just echoing what iaguz said, if you wanna join a team, place high in tournaments.

[BAD.BiGbiRd]

Troy, make BAD again for me please

[DevilMayCare]

Originally Posted by AvToR.SpookFan

Troy, make BAD again for me please

Actually, I spoke to oOrs and Fighto and we are re-making team BAD. Hanfish and Jarvs are here as cheerleaders too.

Come out of retirement Bigbird, then we'll have the 4 we need to get a proper strong lineup. Get in touch on skype if you're not already on a team.

I'm organizing a clan war with iVn to get the ball rolling.

[ToRSpookToR]

I am going to get EXTREME hate for saying this. But nobody said to livibee that SEA GM was a joke everyone said gratz etc and if they didn't they got told to bugger off. Bring me the hate.
But yeah get gm on another server .

[Snx.Mufasa]

Originally Posted by Av.ToRSpook

I am going to get EXTREME hate for saying this. But nobody said to livibee that SEA GM was a joke everyone said gratz etc and if they didn't they got told to bugger off. Bring me the hate.
But yeah get gm on another server .

no hate from me, its kinda sad really... no one wanted to say it because 1, she's popular within the scene and 2. she's a girl

w/e

[|Erasmus|]

The fundamental difference is one person was celebrating an achievement (promotion to GM) and another person is actually claiming that achievement means something... No need to shit on their celebration, but a reality check in the second case can be reasonable.

Livi (or almost anyone else who has achieved Sea GM in the last 8-9 months) has really said that means anything particularly huge about their skill level.

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ToRSpookToR:

Good point :)

[ROOT`iaguz]

SEA GM definitely means something, the difference between livi getting it and this dude is that livi doesn't intend to join a team off of it (well, ok technically she's part of Nv but not for her starcraft ability. I think)

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Snx.Mufasa:

im not sure devil was looking for a pro team either, just a clan/team

[Snx.Mufasa]

Originally Posted by fray`iaguz

SEA GM definitely means something, the difference between livi getting it and this dude is that livi doesn't intend to join a team off of it (well, ok technically she's part of Nv but not for her starcraft ability. I think)

im pretty sure she did blog about her wanting to get onto a proper team, not 100% sure though.

[ToRSpookToR]

Bigbird is on spook fan team

[mGGNemesis]

While I know there are many good players out there, being a gm on any server is an achievement even if it doesnt mean that a certain player might be outstandingly above to be in a top pro team and/or beyond etc. It is not an achievement that can be achieved just by everyone and still represents the top tier of players. I think we shouldnt just dismiss the achievements of those who achieve it legitly, even if it's on SEA.

That said in context, what they are really trying to say is, if you hope to be picked up/ join a pro team, doing well in tournaments and getting gm on the servers where getting gm is harder, would help you towards your goal.

Good luck

[eMp.distyL]

There are many online teams on the SEA Server that accept players to scrim and play casually online.

You mentioned you are from Melbourne and would like a SC2 team, are you talking about an active LAN team that plays competitively? Maybe it would be worth checking out the Melb lan scene and getting your name in there? I'm not sure of melbs lan scene but it has to be a good start

Best of luck with your findings!

[x5.RunaMoK]

www.ixlegion.net

enough said

[NvPinder]

As everyone has already said, congrats on gaining GM man, it's a huge goal to hit for the first time! Unfortunately though it will almost definitely not be the basis any team recruits on. I'm not going to just add what everyone else has (which is totally valid and legitimate advice; play in all the online and lan tournaments you can. If you start doing well there you will eventually get noticed if you're good enough)...

As with everything in life it's not necessarily what you know, its who you know. I can't value enough the importance of interacting with the community. Interact with the community (in a positive way) as much as you can. Be active on the forums, participate in the sc2sea chat, do anything you can to get into this community so you become a name people recognize not just for your tournament results and it will do a hell of a lot to help you.

Basically, network. This isn't just about making yourself "look more appealing for sponsors". Make friends in this scene, everyone's connected to someone in someway. Without those connections you are going to have to do significantly better than someone with them in tournaments to get recognition for your results. I can say with 100% confidence I would've never got the offers I did if all I did was ladder and do reasonably in tournaments, and that for sure applies for many of the players on top teams currently as well.

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	ToRSpookToR:	so true
	Seffy:	Pinder telling it like it is.
	eMp.distyL:	Pinder has Spoken!

[DevilMayCare]

Thank you for the reasonable response

I think the misunderstanding was people thinking I wanted to go straight onto a sponsored team just from getting GM. I was just only hoping to get onto a semi-casual team and hopefully play next season of T3 in SEAL. I do know that GM SEA is not an impressive credential, I have actually made GM several times but I always get demoted as I prefer to practice on NA.

In the end I decided to make a team with some close friends, with any luck we will be accepted into SEAL next season.

We will also play a clan war vs iVn on Sunday.

Thank you for the more reasonable response and for managing not to insinuate that I must be terrible because I mentioned what league my SEA account is in.

[NvPinder]

Originally Posted by DevilMayCare

Thank you for the reasonable response

I think the misunderstanding was people thinking I wanted to go straight onto a sponsored team just from getting GM. I was just only hoping to get onto a semi-casual team and hopefully play next season of T3 in SEAL. I do know that GM SEA is not an impressive credential, I have actually made GM several times but I always get demoted as I prefer to practice on NA.

In the end I decided to make a team with some close friends, with any luck we will be accepted into SEAL next season.

We will also play a clan war vs iVn on Sunday.

Thank you for the more reasonable response and for managing not to insinuate that I must be terrible because I mentioned what league my SEA account is in.

Ahhhh the major issue is here we define what you're describing as a clan. In our scene a clan and a team are two different things.

Generally speaking, a clan is a group of friends who aren't sponsored and just enjoy being associated with one another as a friendship group & its own little community, a team is a professional team with sponsors who they represent at events and things.

It may seem somewhat bizarre, but it is a rather important distinction. Quite a lot of top players are on the same clan, but different teams, or the same team but different clans. It's generally accepted by most teams you don't have to leave your clan to join the team.

[eMp.distyL]

Pinder why you so wise!!