[Mayo]

The full title is "Australia! Tastosis wants an Australian Tournament! What can we (the other continents) do to help you get this rolling?!"

Link below.
http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/co...an_tournament/

[SLCN.Kez]

haha i heard him say that on gsl, lost my shit hoping they would come down for something, hopefully they see the thread and something happens! Maybe they come down for an acl or something i dunno

[Peleus]

Would be awesome to have them here.

[Maynarde]

There's plenty around! Wonder what the price tag is to book Tastosis these days.

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	ToRSpartaz:	Really relevant point
	FsDronesInJail:	many many $$ and korean currency too
	SLCN.Kez:	i heard somewhere in the region of ~5k, not sure if thats each or together tho

[|Erasmus|]

Originally Posted by Maynarde

There's plenty around! Wonder what the price tag is to book Tastosis these days.

This is always going to be the big issue with getting them out here... They say they really want to come, but I doubt they will do it for free.

[breadfan]

Dox Cup #3? Yes please

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Maynarde:

Hope there's room for a couple more casters D:

[Maynarde]

Originally Posted by |Erasmus|

This is always going to be the big issue with getting them out here... They say they really want to come, but I doubt they will do it for free.

That goes without saying lol.

Why pay for your own trip when you can be funded one

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|Erasmus|:

Don't know any event in Australia that can afford to pay to get them out here, though... :/

[Benji]

From the numbers I've heard they charge more than we currently have as prizepools.

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MooZfY:

xD

[ToR.Arnor]

Originally Posted by Maynarde

There's plenty around! Wonder what the price tag is to book Tastosis these days.

relatively cheap (atleast what was quoted a couple months ago) but still over the budget of any of the current aussie tournaments (with perhaps the exception of WCS Oceania?)

EDIT: as mentioned by benji our tournaments have smaller prize pools teehee

[|Erasmus|]

Originally Posted by xGKingBenji

From the numbers I've heard they charge more than we currently have as prizepools.

So when are you convincing the taiwan guys to have the finals of one of their big money regional events here and get tastosis as english casters?

[mGGDrGooSe]

As artosis said, he would love to get PAID to go to Australia. As for internet quality, just hook up with UTS or USYD. They have mind blowing internet when it's not throttled. Any university for that matter would have good enough net for streaming, it's just the latency issue. Face it, cost of flying people out to Aus would negate very many people from coming. Best case scenario is someone donates the airfairs for artosis and co. to come down inorder to cast an ACL or similar.

[breadfan]

Even though it sounds pretty rad, I think that the more immediate focus needs to be on bringing quality international players to our shores. Then worry about the casters. And my focus, I mean the higher priority for the spending of the hypothetical money that is paying for this.

I know that casters are a huge deal, but in the end I don't think that even Tastosis casting will get all that many americans interested in staying up to watch two guys they've never heard of duke it out, even if they are big performers on the SEA stage. Basically, Tastosis will add exposure to a tournament, but inviting players over will add exposure to the SEA player base, which I would argue fuels exposure to the tournament in its own way, and sets up the long term better.

[inFeZa]

When i was in Korea he said something about casting a big event in Australia, (this was March 2011) And he said that it was super DL so he couldn't say anything about it.

I think it turned out to be the PPSL thing.
Or maybe They're coming for WCS Sydney? (doubt it)

[inFeZa]

Also

Shoutout to this guy

http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/co...nament/c531qzk

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Champi:

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

[AusBox]

I posted a link in reply, hopefully it gets some attention: http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/co...ustralian_sc2/

It's sitting just off the front page, hopefully it gets a few more views.

[ACL VaNzR]

Not outside the realms of possibility.

*end totally unsubstantiated hype*

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EveSigns:

Begin substantially unsubstantiated hype"

[Eddie]

I'd rather big name players come to Australia. Adds more to the event imo.

Haven't we already got some quality and entertaining casters?

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Maynarde:

Thanks sweetheart <3

[SLCN.Kez]

People might watch for an hour or so if they want to see their favorite player, they'll tune in all w/e to watch their favorite caster(s) imo

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	mGGDrGooSe:	I think people staying for the weekend will only happen if you get both. One or the other is just a novelty.
	fur:	This x1000. We have plenty of good players. A high profile casting combo is how you build OUR players up.

[Dox]

Spent hours reading all that crap, it was frustrating as hell. People are so misguided.

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Mayo:

Yep!

[Fadey]

Someone create a kickstarter for this! Ive seen far more useless things on it like kids selling banana bread.. Could sell it as a Aussie tourney start up or something >.>.

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	breadfan:	Good idea!
	Dox:	noooooo

[Dox]

Honestly? We have a lot of work to do on ourselves before we start outsourcing. Our scene needs to mature organically before we start pissing away money on luxuries like that. WCS Australia/Oceania will be the first major step forward in this regard.

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fur:

This also. And really we are on the right track. The scene has grown so so much.

[Baldie]

Just to add my 0.02. Yes international attention is good and welcoming but you only get one or two shots at going international and if we push too soon it will just ruin all of our work which will negatively impact any future attempts.

Think about some of the events that have been a huge flop, not just in eSports. There have been a variety of music festivals which have had a poor reception because they spent too much money on getting big name bands in at the expense of quality of food, facilities etc which not only pisses the customers off but the bands themselves. Same for us. If we spend too much money on getting big names in at the expense of equipment quality, internet and production it will piss off the spectators, the players and the casters.

We need to run flawless events of an international standard time and time again attracting the corporate world before we even consider luxuries. As much as I would love to have all the best players and casters from around the world in Australia, I would be the last person to bring them down if I couldn't ensure a desirable experience for them.

I appreciate people's intentions are pure and we all want the same end goal but I think a lot of people are unaware of how much time, financial investment and planning goes into events and what it actually takes to have a flawless event of an international standard.

Tastosis can fly down to Australia and cast an event if they wish - we just wont be paying for them for a while longer yet.

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Dox:

great analogy with the music festivals, exactly right

[NOM]

If he comes down he is welcome to sleep in my bed. Deth can go sleep with Miley.
Everybody is happy.

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Dox:

fight you for him

[Cordance]

I have to say I am in Dox and Baldie's corner on this one we just dont need them yet due to cost.

However as we start heading towards trying to become a significant presences in the world as far as starcraft2. We should probably be looking at sponsors that reach an international market. Tourism in my mind is a wonderful place to start. It is the major thing people will be thinking about when they think about Australia and by extension all of SEA. If your in the USA or Europe your not really thinking lets head down to SEA to play in a starcraft comp or pick up a cheep laptop. That advertising is for people already in SEA or online side of marketing. If you are watching a starcraft comp and you see an add about the gold coast it might be enough for you to look at the holiday more seriously.

When you look at things like ACL. The competition travel around the nation having sponsors to help with travel costs would be a blessing. On tourism's side of the market, showing off the rest of Australia target audience 15-25 give or take seems very marketable to them. Airlines hotels venues are always looking for chances to convince more people to use them. I dont know what our international numbers are like but Im sure there is a sale able marketing chance there either now or in the making.

However Dox and Baldie said we need to work towards these lofty goals not break a leg sprinting. We want to do so with a marketing plan not a marketing cluster <expletive deleted>. We also dont want to lose the "grass roots" sides of things (sports reference for those who dont know) because of these more heavy weight sponsors. Keep in mind Starcrafts chance might be the only chance for Australian Esports for a long while. We do not look back on what happened with the IPL qualifiers thing back in late 2011 with fond memories.

Off on a tangent the best way to actually get the two of them out here would probably be to give them a holiday across the country rather than straight up cash (we dont have). I would much rather them show up at ACL or like maybe get asked to cast a game event rather than be casting the whole thing keep in mind they would have less of an idea of peoples tactics etc. The downside to this is there is hardly any downtime for them to sneak away for a few weeks from the GSL.