[ToRSpartaz]

So guys the second SEACL will be coming round this year and I thought that we would enter 2 teams in the following Divisions.

Tier 2: (Platinum , Diamond , Masters and Grandmasters )

- Danosaur: :
- Jae: :
- AyaWind:
- Fur:
- DeeSam
- Trusty
- Superman:
- Snod:
- iMw:
- Kringe:
- Cool:
- Kringe:
- Erasmus
- AuhC

Tier 3: Platinum and Diamond

- Doofus:
- HTXypha:
- DeekZ:
- ToRDjvillian:
- ToRsPook:
- Kweeeeeeeers:
- Shadowz:
- Saucy:
- AZKSupapower:
- Recoil:

Predominantly our PD CL team, need to know what kind of support we have here after the Season 5 promotions.

Tier 4: (BSG, and )

- ToRZorba:
- JoFritzMD:
- BlitzKrieg:
- SmotPokingFish:
- Fainty:
- Deathsfang:
- Suipr:
- MrSandman:
- ThePandarine:
- ToRMaverick:
- Uglymutt:
- ToRZanderax:
- Bugalugs:
- ToRNamasTe:

Our BSG CL team and those new recruits to ToR you just need to let me know where you guys are at in your progress.

Coaches and Team Managers that are willing to dedicate time to this cause. Let me know PM me and post in this thread.

So guys let me know if your avaliable, i expect high commitment from you guys and the training sessions will contribute towards our success.

ToR Fiiiighting

Spartaz

[ToRSpookToR]

yoooo sign me up boss plat like a boss i assume you will be playing in the BSG team troll face

Quick Comments

ToRSpartaz:

Come at me? -.- Nope forever coach. I hit diamond soon son /^^

[oo0zula0oo]

Brotha~ sign me up for the tier 3 team~
if u guys wanna invite me haha~

ill put my commitment into this and hopefully we can have heaps of trainin sessions~

oh and if u want me to join to tier 2 team ill join but not sure if im good enough

Quick Comments

ToRSpartaz:

Twice a week, excluding casual practice bro

[ToRSpookToR]

As do i spartaz as do i...

[JoFritzMD]

Currently Gold, but hopefully plat soon. Currently vsing half plat, half gold in ladder and winning about 80% vs gold. But I won't be happy until i reach GM ^_^

Quick Comments

	ToRSpartaz:	Ballller <3 Reppp every comment son ^^
	AsylumofSouls:	Played a stretch of 4 months vsing and beating only Plats but still got re-placed in Gold
	dippa:	that's the spirit, aim for the skies.

[ToRPandarine]

Hwaiting!! Count me in

[ToRMaverick]

Count me in. Im always on and committed as anyone . Still silver and hope to progress to bigger and better things .

[ToRSmotPokingFish]

sure sign me up i can manage or w/e as well if you need i guess i will be in the gold one until i get promo? idk ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[wOrD]

i will lead youre platnium divison to victory

[ToRDeathsFang]

I demand to be Captain/Manager of the BSG team

[ToRSpartaz]

Originally Posted by DeathsFang

I demand to be Captain/Manager of the BSG team

Player manager?

[ToRDjvillian]

Is it even necessary for me to post here? You should know by now that I'm always keen to rep

[ToRSpartaz]

Originally Posted by Djvillian

Is it even necessary for me to post here? You should know by now that I'm always keen to rep

Course braaaah

Its just the active members of the clan. I havent seen some of the clan on in the last few months. E.g ToRlokki and ToRSeeker and Avatar etc

[AsylumofSouls]

Add me to the BSG team.
The opposing noobs will be swarmed.

[Uglymutt]

After our attempts at BSGCL 2 fell just short from the finals I'll be having another crack at it, sign me up for tier 4 please

Uglymutt.161

[ToRSpookToR]

yeah that was bs cant believe we didn't make the finals QQ

[Synizta]

I feel i should be doing management of BSGCL team, as DeathsFang previously (season 1) didn't maintain commitment. That's also same reason why i am NOT putting my hand up for the PDCL side.

Edit; that and i've already spoken to players about next playing next BSGCL, or whatever it's called.

Quick Comments

	Uglymutt:	SYYYYYYYN!
	|Erasmus|:	You showed no commitment to management previously too.

[ToRSpartaz]

I had a sensational idea for the Tier 3 and Tier 4 teams. Those guys who put their names forward as managers and Coachs. I think it should be up to the people to decide who they want to manage them.

Because it sounds good and fair all round, because it is a team right? ^^

[Bloodmyst]

Sup Spartaz, sign me up bro!

Yo diggity fo shizzle ra rizzle ma nizzle bro?

Btw, we may need some Bronzies for out BSG team.... Everyone is moving up lol.

Just thought I'd like to point out last BSGCL I was Bronze.... Now I'm Gold biatches!!!!! Yay for me

EDIT: It's ToRZorBa ere'

2nd EDIT: I have a giggle to myself every time I read your sig smot.... lel

[ToRSmotPokingFish]

Originally Posted by kiP

Just thought I'd like to point out last BSGCL I was Bronze.... Now I'm Gold biatches!!!!! Yay for me

Originally Posted by kiP

2nd EDIT: I have a giggle to myself every time I read your sig smot.... lel

i was bronze too, yay for me and ♥♥♥ zorba

[breadfan]

Quick correction... I'm Terran!

[breadfan]

Originally Posted by breadfan

Quick correction... I'm Terran!

Just need to call attention to this because it hasn't been updated anywhere, and ChadMann brought it up as something that should get fixed ASAP

[d00fus]

Would love to participate but finals in two weeks time i_i" . Most probably will contribute in february after all dat stuffz out of my way!

[Zanderax]

Put me in the tier 4 comp!
ToRZanderax.645

[ToRSpartaz]

Definately think we can enter the Tier 4 and 3 Teams. Maybe with a promotion each season each team. We can improve that way

[ToRSpartaz]

Im starting to update, the lists on the main post for the team. I know that there is quite a few members that havent signed up for it yet. But im going to be updating this thread with the teams and that, sooo advertise and remind the peoples whats happening and that ^^

[breadfan]

I'd be keen to participate in the BSG tier - I'm high silver on the verge of breaking into gold (ALL my matches are vs gold players so I imagine my MMR is right about there)

Quick Comments

ToRSpartaz:

Glad to have to you bro ^^

[KAshadowz]

sign me up for tier 3 =D

Shadowz

[Fainty]

Wouldnt mind signin up.

Tier 4 Gold Protoss Fainty.930

[ToRMaverick]

Spartaz... FYI registrations look to be open.

See nirvAnA's post

Question for Tier 4 Group.... looks to be around 11 already for this group

Whats the chances of registering 2 groups based on the numbers... if we are all keen to play than I would imagine we are all going to be fighting to get in on the action.... but with 2 groups may struggle with people no showing up? Whats your thoughts...

[Elusory]

i'm interested for the PD team. the CL is 15th jan right? it's a sunday, so i'll only be available from 1pm GMT onwards. i don't know what time the CL starts so.. yeah

[KAshadowz]

should be signing up the team soon? as everything but T4 is starting to fill up and hitting max soon

[ToRsupapower]

Can i join the P/D side?

[breadfan]

Just an update: I finally got my promotion to gold!

Quick Comments

	ToRMaverick:	Congrats!! Promos always get the blood pumping!
	ToRDjvillian:	:
	ToRSpartaz:	Gratz man <3

[ToRSpartaz]

Yeah im signing up the teams tonight guys.

Based on the quality and level of competition. I have decided to make it just two Teams that we are going to enter in this Seasons SEACL.

A BSG Tier Team and a PDM/Gm team.

So im going to do that now ^^

[ToRSpartaz]

GUYS THE LINE UPS ARE UP. But im not sure as to what name we are going to name the 2 Teams.

I thought for Tier 3: We could name it "Spartaz SEx Kitties" :3

Love to hear your thoughts guys ^^

[ToRMaverick]

Well done Spartaz.... will be interesting to see how the Tier 3 team fairs on this level. I recon we will own it!

Tier 3 - ToR Winning!
Tier 4 - ToR Fighting!

[KAshadowz]

:O doesn't having gms in T3 make it a little unbalanced?

[syfChadMann]

Originally Posted by KAshadowz

:O doesn't having gms in T3 make it a little unbalanced?

Yeah I don't think having Masters and GM players in Tier 3 will work.. you might want to split and try and get a third M/Gm team or move your Plat/Dai/M/Gm players into Tier 2 and some of the plats can probably play in Tier 4...

[ToRSpartaz]

Originally Posted by TAChadMann

Yeah I don't think having Masters and GM players in Tier 3 will work.. you might want to split and try and get a third M/Gm team or move your Plat/Dai/M/Gm players into Tier 2 and some of the plats can probably play in Tier 4...

Sigh* I thought it might be, just trying to keep the balance. Yeah ill see what I can do for "The Chad"

[KAshadowz]

Originally Posted by TAChadMann

Yeah I don't think having Masters and GM players in Tier 3 will work.. you might want to split and try and get a third M/Gm team or move your Plat/Dai/M/Gm players into Tier 2 and some of the plats can probably play in Tier 4...

The only possible issue that I can see with the M/GM team is that some players may show up, but if you can clear up that issue then the M/GM team should be fine. Either of chad's suggestions should work.

Another option would be that you can take some of the golds and have a T3 team of plats/golds, while moving the rest to T2

[|Erasmus|]

Originally Posted by TAChadMann

Yeah I don't think having Masters and GM players in Tier 3 will work.. you might want to split and try and get a third M/Gm team or move your Plat/Dai/M/Gm players into Tier 2 and some of the plats can probably play in Tier 4...

Other teams in T3 are already chock full of masters. On average our team is still weak for that division. Not being all kill format makes the whole one strong player argument incredibly weak. Even if Dano and Jae carry with 2 kills every week, we only barely win, and if everyone knows they will play Dano for ace every week they can plan their best vT to go ace. Im sure there are plenty of masters in tier 3 who can take him down if they know that.

It also seems silly if we have to force clans to just rush and try to pick up a bunch of players that aren't a good fit just to fill out a roster with people in specific leagues.

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oo0zula0oo:

ur back! u can see the forums~ and i agree no point to get players we dont or connect with~

[syfChadMann]

Originally Posted by |Erasmus|

Other teams in T3 are already chock full of masters. On average our team is still weak for that division. Not being all kill format makes the whole one strong player argument incredibly weak. Even if Dano and Jae carry with 2 kills every week, we only barely win, and if everyone knows they will play Dano for ace every week they can plan their best vT to go ace. Im sure there are plenty of masters in tier 3 who can take him down if they know that.

It also seems silly if we have to force clans to just rush and try to pick up a bunch of players that aren't a good fit just to fill out a roster with people in specific leagues.

While I haven't been thru all the rosters yet to check how many Masters and GMs there are in each team, I still feel that this many Masters and Gms is a bit OP... if the two Gms play and win every week then the worst you'll do is get a draw... (unless on the off chance, they lose). Also, if this team wins with out separation into two teams, next season you'll see this team in Tier 2 - the plats included..

While there has been no ruling on this yet, I'd suggest splitting into two teams is advisable, I'll talk to Lemminks and Frogmite about it soon and see if it permitted.


EDIT: Just had a browse through some of the teams rosters that have signed up. None have Gms and I think there is only 1 with a Master league player - VB, who also have a few golds in the Tier 3 team.

[breadfan]

Originally Posted by TAChadMann

Also, if this team wins with out separation into two teams, next season you'll see this team in Tier 2 - the plats included..

This is a very very good point - I mentioned that it might be tough on the players to keep coming back if they get put into Tier 2 and keep losing, but they are going to face that next season anyway.

[Stallion]

Originally Posted by TAChadMann

While I haven't been thru all the rosters yet to check how many Masters and GMs there are in each team, I still feel that this many Masters and Gms is a bit OP... if the two Gms play and win every week then the worst you'll do is get a draw... (unless on the off chance, they lose). Also, if this team wins with out separation into two teams, next season you'll see this team in Tier 2 - the plats included..

While there has been no ruling on this yet, I'd suggest splitting into two teams is advisable, I'll talk to Lemminks and Frogmite about it soon and see if it permitted.

to put it in perspective for you the crux B team which is entirely - 3 people masters players is in tier 3. tier 2 is you can have an entire team of gm players is the difference. You also have to remember you are putting a lot of pressure on Jae and Danosuar to win every time to even get a draw which is hard and Eramus has an exellent point of view on this if they know that one of those two is ace every match then it gives the oppoent an advantage in knowing itl be a T or P. Also remember GM doesnt really mean that much over the high masters players its more who ahs the better mmr at the time for example cruxDoc aka Souljah missed out on gm but is top of masters still matching up vs top 50 gms. Theres no way that teams op mate and if you look at tier two teams im sure you will see why ^_^ glgl ToR Hwaiting

[KAshadowz]

pssssh should be for me
I brought it up lol

[Paroxysm]

Yo, I wouldn't mind helping out and coaching some young zergies if you need it at some stage . Could coach them up to a platinum level. All i ask for in return is some practice games every now and again with some of the top tier players in the clan

Lemme know if you're interested

Paroxysm

Quick Comments

	Synizta:
	ToRsupapower:

[ToRSpartaz]

Originally Posted by Paroxysm

Yo, I wouldn't mind helping out and coaching some young zergies if you need it at some stage . Could coach them up to a platinum level. All i ask for in return is some practice games every now and again with some of the top tier players in the clan

Lemme know if you're interested

Paroxysm

Always love the help bro hang around with us mate and practice with the top tier players bro ^^ they always willing to reaally boss it out xD

[KAshadowz]

I'm top tier I'll practice with you

[Elusory]

my name's spelt wrongly pretty sure it isn't ahuhc haha. change it to auhc pretty please? ^^

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ToRSpartaz:

Oopsies bro D:

[ToRSpartaz]

Hm... Im not sure whether we should enter for the Tier 2 side, I have a lot of faith in you guys and I know that we can improve.

Whats your opinions? ^^

[ToRMaverick]

Going through all of the registrations I think we may have a tough time with a Tier 2 team, as there are some pretty awesome line-ups in there. They are predominantly players with some and in the mix.

The issue for us is that we don’t quite have the numbers up top but in saying that, the way the tournament is structured you can always give it a go then if our Tier 2 team is struggling we would be challenged by the top Tier 3 team for our spot at the end of the season.... the comp will ballance things out over time.

Originally Posted by Frogmite

Last two teams of Tier 2 will play Up/Down matches GSL style with the top two teams of Tier 3. The top 2 winners will play in Tier 2 for next season, the losers will be playing for Tier 3.

I also believe we need to promote our GMs / Master players and give them a chance to play against other suitable opponents. Having GMs in a Tier 3 team isn’t really giving them a chance to play were the need to be…

My suggestion at this stage would be as per Kashadowz response…

Originally Posted by KAshadowz

Another option would be that you can take some of the golds and have a T3 team of plats/golds, while moving the rest to T2

I understand there is a ballance issue in relation to having enough people showing up to play and also not having too many that only a select few get to play. If we are at all serious about and actually give a dam about each other then we really need to show some commitment until we can gather a few more numbers to help with any possible no shows....

Thats my thoughts anyways... GL with the decision as it will never please everyone.

[breadfan]

I think it should be left up to the players in that team.

From my perspective, it seems like it's the issue of letting everyone get involved (including the GMs) vs cutting people out for greater success

For everyone to be involved, it means we're going to have a mostly tier 3-suited team playing in tier 2, which means they can probably expect a lot of losses. This may affect morale (maybe people won't show up week after week if it's to get their ass handed to them) but some people might take the view that this is an excellent chance to take on some masters players, get some valuable experience and help their personal progression.

Of course, if we can't provide a way for GMs to participate (who are the most serious players among us) then they may seek other places, meaning that we'll struggle to build up for the next season.

Basically, it depends where the individuals themselves stand on that issue. Personally, I'd be in the Tier 2 camp, and I kind of hope it swings that way

[|Erasmus|]

This whole conversation seems mighty confusing having (I think) missed most of it...

Why we seem to have numerous naming conventions for this stuff is something I don't know. But , I assume it's like this:

Sharn Kemp SEA Premier League - Only and by invite (Tier 1)
(We might have to split tier 2 into A/B)
SC2SEA Championship League A: - Mostly (Tier 2)

SC2SEA Championship League B: - Mostly (Tier 3)

SC2SEA League 1: Mostly (Tier 4)

SC2SEA League 2: Mostly (Tier 5)

I have no idea how this argument can go that we are way too strong for Tier 3. Ask anyone qualified the difference between random highish masters player and GM outside top 100, and most answers will be that it's largely irrelevant. And the average strength of the team is just silly for tier 2.

@superman: It's not giving me errors from here at work, but I should stop wasting time...

[syfChadMann]

Originally Posted by |Erasmus|

This whole conversation seems mighty confusing having (I think) missed most of it...

Why we seem to have numerous naming conventions for this stuff is something I don't know. But , I assume it's like this:

Sharn Kemp SEA Premier League - Only and by invite (Tier 1)
(We might have to split tier 2 into A/B)
SC2SEA Championship League A: - Mostly (Tier 2)

SC2SEA Championship League B: - Mostly (Tier 3)

SC2SEA League 1: Mostly (Tier 4)

SC2SEA League 2: Mostly (Tier 5)

I have no idea how this argument can go that we are way too strong for Tier 3. Ask anyone qualified the difference between random highish masters player and GM outside top 100, and most answers will be that it's largely irrelevant. And the average strength of the team is just silly for tier 2.

@superman: It's not giving me errors from here at work, but I should stop wasting time...

I think the confusion here is that Tier 5 doesn't exist, and (what you have listed as Tier 2 and tier 3 is Tier 2 (A and B)...

So your team is aimed at the Tier 2 B league? thats fine... I was assuming when you said Tier 3, which is the PDCL...

so it should be more like:
Sharn Kemp SEA Premier League - Only and by invite (Tier 1)
(We might have to split tier 2 into A/B)
SC2SEA Championship League A: - Mostly (Tier 2)

SC2SEA Championship League B: - Mostly (Tier 2B)

SC2SEA League 1: Mostly (Tier 3)

SC2SEA League 2: Mostly (Tier 4)

And your team is aimed at the Tier 2B league?..

[ToRDeathsFang]

We cant have a Tier 1 team, we're not good enough/ don't have enough players. I think that we should keep it at having our Tier 4 BSG team, Tier 3 PD team and put all our Masters/ GM's into a Tier 2. That's the simplest way to do it and we will have 3 full teams.

No need to over-complicate things

Quick Comments

	syfChadMann:	yep
	KAshadowz:	definitely simplest :)

[|Erasmus|]

Originally Posted by DeathsFang

We cant have a Tier 1 team, we're not good enough/ don't have enough players. I think that we should keep it at having our Tier 4 BSG team, Tier 3 PD team and put all our Masters/ GM's into a Tier 2. That's the simplest way to do it and we will have 3 full teams.

No need to over-complicate things

Except we don't have enough players for that... :/

[Frogmite]

Yeah basically i made a system of points that ranks the teams in the good division. So in general it's better for the team to be balanced (either GM/masters or masters/diamond,...), there will be greater chances they'll play in the division that suit them the best.

If you want to keep it simple:

Tier 1 : only
Tier 2 : /
Tier 3: /
Tier 4:

Hope it helps.

[syfChadMann]

Originally Posted by Frogmite

Yeah basically i made a system of points that ranks the teams in the good division. So in general it's better for the team to be balanced (either GM/masters or masters/diamond,...), there will be greater chances they'll play in the division that suit them the best.

If you want to keep it simple:

Tier 1 : only
Tier 2 : /
Tier 3: /
Tier 4:

Hope it helps.

Really?
My understanding was that it was:
Tier 1 : only
Tier 2A : /
Tier 2B : (mainly)
Tier 3: /
Tier 4:

[Frogmite]

Originally Posted by TAChadMann

Really?
My understanding was that it was:
Tier 1 : only
Tier 2A : /
Tier 2B : (mainly)
Tier 3: /
Tier 4:

Yeah it's roughly the same thing.
The teams are sorted depending on how strong a team is.
For example, in tier 3 a team with one master and 4 diamond can be considered as strong as a team with two masters and 3 platinums

[breadfan]

I think this discussion originated before the 2a/2b split Erasmus - people aren't saying the team is too strong for a master dominant division - it's too strong for the PD division (because the team is essentially half GM/M, half PD). You can't really have players playing down that far, but you can have players playing up without a worry.

DeathsFang, we don't have enough GM/M players for a Tier 1 or 2a team is the big issue

[KAshadowz]

if everyone is committed and as games can be arranged to different times then it shouldn't be too hard to split up the team. Basically the matchups will be pm'ed to the admins and then the individual matches can be played throughout the week if the default day doesn't work out?

Makes it easier as having gms into T3 doesn't seem very fair, also pushing plats up to T2b can be a struggle and may limit their playtime.

[ToRPandarine]

whatever the outcome is, 's stand ready

off topic: i need a sparriing partner cause I'm really out of practice :/

[Kringe]

im in for this

Quick Comments

|Erasmus|:

another solid player... <3.

[Cool30]

I'm in if your willing to let me play

[ToRSpartaz]

Yupo, I have revised the line ups and we are breaking into Tier 2: Lets see how we do fellows ^^ Boss it out guys.

Plus you guys have to dedicate yourself to being there for Clan Matches and that man. ToR Fiiiiighting .

[Elusory]

spartaz >.> not ahuC, it's auhC.

Quick Comments

ROOTPetraeus:

Thats his second spelling mistake today!! Hang him!

[KAshadowz]

lineup looks good

[d00fus]

Just a heads up since I'm still on the list, I can't play till february x.x"

[ToRSpartaz]

Originally Posted by d00fus

Just a heads up since I'm still on the list, I can't play till february x.x"

I know but it adds the avaliability for you to play bro.

Quick Comments

d00fus:

Thanks ;)

[DeekZ]

I'd like to sign up if still available, let me know.

[ToRSpartaz]

Did it already son ^^

[ToRsupapower]

The Title for the plat team was failed xD it turned out i Platinum

[ToRSpartaz]

Sigh* Every time xD

[ToRDjvillian]

from your iPod still spartaz?

[ToRSpartaz]

Lol hell no son xDDD Just my keyboard -.-

[Elusory]

@spartaz: big reminder to change my name from ahuC to auhc LOL.

[ToRSpartaz]

Originally Posted by Anarki

@spartaz: big reminder to change my name from ahuC to auhc LOL.

Initially i think it was that mate o.O

[Recoil]

Change my icon to plat too haha

[JoFritzMD]

Change my icon to GM while you're at it

[ToRDjvillian]

Change the Diamond i Diamond to Diamond in the O.P whilst your at it

[ToRSpartaz]

Lol whoopsies bro :P

[ToRDeathsFang]

Change Kringe to masters you mofo

[Bugalugs McScruffin]

Spartaz, you didn't add me in.

[ToRSpartaz]

doing it now bugs

[|Erasmus|]

Everyone should add me and spartaz on skype. That way we can set up a group for the people in each roster and can discuss who is available and wants to play in each round there.

Also should organise everyone to join the ToR facebook group for announcements and stuff. But we can do that and get everyone on realid and stuff once we're all on skype.

[Trusty]

Are we going to take this seriously?

If we are, can we arrange:

1) Team Captain/Coach (Makes decisions about who goes out, etc). Ideally shouldn't be a player - and preferable knows everyone.
2) People's strengths/weakness in their MU's (We want to find specific MU snipers).
3) Ace players (Don't think it matters since it's not winners' league format?)
4) Broad player info (who likes 1basing, who likes 2basing, who is comfortable in long games).

All these info should be discussed in private, and once we have map pool we can see the players' likes/dislikes on certain maps.

Even though it's not winner's league format, compiling this information about our players can help greatly for the coach to pick correct players to go out.

If we not taking seriously then its Ok

[Bugalugs McScruffin]

Trusty, each team has a manager/captain/coach. I know Zanderax is the goto guy for the BSG team. As far as I can tell it's up to the captain to work out the rest of the details. From what I've seen so far Zanderax is taking this seriously and knows what he's doing. Not sure about the other two teams, but we're taking BSG this seriously () then I'm sure the other teams will be taken seriously as well.

As for the specifics, they are all good suggestions, but probably best to discuss with the captain of your team.

Erasmus, will we have anywhere else we can make announcements other than the ToR Facebook page? I'm fine with RealID, but I'm not getting back on Facebook.

[|Erasmus|]

1) I think Spartaz is doing that for this team and is not playing on it. Should be okay.
2) Is a bit relevant. There are some starting maps less likely to be sending a zerg on (like, say, shakuras or something) If you don't want to play a zerg, don't go out on this map.
3) Still important as their is a 2 point match. Need to send someone good out on that one.
4) Always relevant. I like macro games personally, but there aren't any really small maps in the map pool since they removed Xel'Naga, so I think my last favourite one left is metal, just because it's hard to defend that expand with bunkers in TvP (but I don't mind it for TvT).

I think we are taking it seriously, to an extent. Even the 3rd division is pretty stacked though, with a number of NA gms and stuff. No real massive expectation, I guess, but we would like to put in a strong showing.

@ Bugalugs: I don't think it should only be done through facebook or anything. It is just one place we can put announcements for people to see. Skype is better, but facebook is a useful broadcasting tool (**** I hate a lot of what it does too). Even twitter is good for this sort of thing, but I haven't jumped on that wagon yet, and I'm not sure if someone created a ToR account anyway.

[Trusty]

Ah Ok my bad

[ToRSpartaz]

Originally Posted by Trusty

Ah Ok my bad

Absolutely not, when I get a free night. Im going round all players and individually and as a team to ask for strengths and weaknesses as I have been doing already with some of the recruits.

Yes to answer this question I am taking this very seriously, as it is a very notable competition and the opportunity to showcase our ability across all of our teams and therefore showing how far ToR has come in the last 10 months since its establishment this year.

As for management, I think im chosing the captains of the 2 higher teams (As Zander is taking full responsibility for the Tier 5 Team) so that they do have the ability to make decisions because of course NZST is 2 hours later than australia so once I go back to school systems will be put in place so I wont be S*** tired for school the next days

ToR Fiiiiiiiightiiing

[ToRNamasTe]

Spartaz , i would like to join the tier 5 one if it is still possible.. want to participate as part of ToR

Quick Comments

ToRSpartaz:

Last spot is for you bro

[KAshadowz]

Originally Posted by |Erasmus|

Everyone should add me and spartaz on skype. That way we can set up a group for the people in each roster and can discuss who is available and wants to play in each round there.

what are your skypes?

[KAshadowz]

is there currently any place where we have to discuss strategies? o.o like a skype group or something?

[|Erasmus|]

There's a little skype icon underneath both of our avatars...

I created a skype group for the T3 team, and we should have an entire clan one in addition to one for each team imo.

In any case, my skype name is brendan__cook

[KAshadowz]

someone should make a T4 one, and I agree we should also have a whole team one

[ToRSpartaz]

Oopsies bro. Did I do something else again -.- fixing it now.

[ToRSpartaz]

I was using the SEACL registration preferably over this one, so ill keep this one updated in the future guys.

[ToRDeathsFang]

sent in the line ups yet son?

[ToRSpartaz]

Yup sent in over the weekend, Zanderax is responsible for the Tier 5 team guys.

[breadfan]

Tier 5 is already posted, so no more secrets for us!