Citizen: Most people playing the game are citizens. Their job is to accuse and vote on people they think are the Mafia or Arsonist players during the Daytime. Citizens win when all Mafia and Arsonist players are killed.
Informant: The informat is a town aligned player with a specific role. Each night the Informat can PM the Gamemaster and ask about any player in the game. The Gamemaster will reply with whether the player is suspicious or not. Suspicious players are those with Unique Roles that involve killing players. They are Mafia, Arsonist, Professional and Vigilante. The informat no longer knows who the Vigilante is, and must work independantly to assist the town however they can and still avoid being killed. The informat wins when all Mafia and Arsonist players are killed.
Vigilante: The Vigilante is a town aligned player that has the ability to kill 2 players per game. The Vigilante is town aligned and thus wins by killing all the Mafia players and Arsonist players. The Vigilante does not know the Informat anymore. The Vigilante is also no longer revealed upon killing a Citizen or Innocent role.
Doctor: The doctor is a vital role to the town and has the ability to protect any player of their choosing at Night from Mafia, Vigilante and Professional attacks. The doctor cannot block Arsonist attacks. The doctor cannot protect himself/herself. If the doctor saves someone during the nighttime phase, they gain protection from the next nighttime attack made against them. This can stack up to protect the doctor over a few nights if required. The doctor CAN protect Mafia and Arsonist players unknowingly. The doctor wins when all Mafia and Arsonist players are killed.
Mafia: The Mafia players job is to kill off the Arsonist and all the Town Aligned players. During the daytime they take part in the discussion on who to kill along with all the other players, however during the nighttime they get their own kill, and they can kill off any member they wish. The Mafia know the members of their own family.
Lovers: Lovers are 2 players which have unique win conditions. Lovers can only win if they are the only 2 members left in the game. Once one lover is killed, the other is killed instantly as well. Lovers can also have other roles, such as Informat, Vigilante or even Mafia, or they could simply be Citizens (This is explained in the PM sent when said role is told to the player). Lovers may also communicate as much as they want with each other. Lovers also know the other players role, and can disclose to each other all information they know, for example if one member is part of a mafia family, he/she may tell the other player who the other members of the family are.
Joker: The Jokers role is to be killed by the Citizen vote. If the Joker is killed by the Citizen vote, he wins the game (the game continues and further winners are decided like the normal outcome). If the Joker is killed by anything other than a Citizen vote, he loses. If he is not killed, he loses. If the Joker is killed by a citizen vote, a random player that voted for him is also killed (random number generater used). Unlike other tiebreakers, Mafia and Citizens have equal chance of being killed in this manner. The joker does not need to die for the Mafia or the Citizens to win.
Professional: The Professional has 2 kills per game to be used during any nighttime phase. He is not Town Aligned or Mafia Aligned. The Professional wins the game by killing those he see's as not benefiting society which are the Informat, Vigilante and Joker roles. If the Professional kills any one of these 3 players with his 2 kills, he wins the game (the game continues for a Mafia or Town win also and the professional must continue to play the game as normal, if he dies due to inactivity his win is not counted). If the Professional dies after this, he still wins the game. He can also use remaining kills in any way he wishes, and can vote to assist town or Mafia in Day votes (however he decides). If the Professional uses both kills and does not kill one of his 3 targets, he is instantly killed and loses the game. If all of his targets are killed by other means (Day Lynches, Mafia hits etc), he becomes a Survivor (outlined below). The Professional is emotionless and as a result is not considered as one of the random deaths caused by the Lynching of a Joker.
Survivor: The Survivor is a Neutral aligned role which is very simple. Live until the end of the game. If the survivor is alive, he wins the game no matter who actually won. The Survivor will not be killed by the first nighttime attack that happens on him, but is killed by the second. This includes Arson, Mafia, Vigilante and Professional kills. The survivor is a low priority for Town, Mafia and Neutral players to kill or remove from the game as they are not a threat to each role winning the game and have no offensive capability, so it can sometimes be a good idea to announce your role publically. Then again it could also be a good role to pretend to be...
Arsonist: The Arsonist is a Neutral aligned role. The Arsonist at night can send the Gamemaster a message letting him know who he wants to douse in fuel. That player is now 'Doused' (This information is not revealed to anyone) and the Arsonist can each night choose a different player to douse. The arsonist can also choose (instead of dousing a target) to light all doused targets, killing them all in the one night phase. The Arsonist wins once all other players are killed. The Arsonist wins ALL tiebreaker situations (even over Mafia) and as a result, if a Day Phase results in the Arsonist and any other player being the only 2 players left, the Arsonist wins (Except if his opponant is a Survivor in which they both win).
1. Once 18 players have signed up, players have an additional 24 hours to register before the game will begin. I will private message (PM) players with special roles the details of their roles. I will post which roles are active in the game in the thread then I will then post in this thread that the game has begun. If you do not receive a Private Message, you are a Citizen
2. The game starts in the Daytime, with the Citizens voting on who they think the Mafia is, and the player with the most votes will get killed and removed from the game. Remember the Mafia can (and do) vote as citizens so keep an eye on who votes for who to try and figure out who is part of the Mafia.
3. After the Daytime (Which lasts for 48 hours or until everyone has voted), it will be the Nighttime. Each Mafia family will PM me their Kill for the round, and the Informant will PM me asking about a specific player. This phase lasts for 24 hours, if I do not receive a message from any Mafia family or the Informant, they will miss their opportunity for the turn.
4. After the Nighttime, the Mafia kills will be revealed and it will become Daytime again, with the Citizen Vote. The cycle repeats until one team has won.
How to win?
Citizens, Informants and Vigilantes win by killing all 3 Mafia players and the Arsonist. Dead citizens do not win. Mafia win by killing all of the citizens and the Arsonist. Dead Mafia do not win. Neutral roles win with their unique winning conditions. See roles above for details.
Rules:
1. The game is restricted to 18 players on a first come, first serve basis. Once signups begin, post in the thread 'I wish to join the next game'
2. If you are killed, you are no longer a part of the game and cannot post in this thread. Posting in this thread will result in your post being deleted. If you continue to post you may be banned.
3. If you miss 2 Citizen votes in a row, you will be killed and will miss out on the next 2 games. Checking the forums every day or 2 isn't that big of a deal. If you will be unable to participate in the game midway through, message me and I will kill you off, however you will not receive a 2 game ban in this situation.
4. The only people who are allowed to talk about the game in PMs are the members of the Mafia families. The Informant is allowed to send the Vigilante PMs, but only containing the name of Mafia members and what family they are in, no other talk about the game should be happening in these PMs. The only place anyone else (dead or alive) should be talking about the game is in the game thread. Not in emails, IMs, PMs, at other message boards, but here in the game thread. You cannot link images or quotes from outside of this game thread that relates to the game.
Prizes:
The prize for winning a game of Mafia is a forum Achievement (and fun!)
Not all the roles will be used in the game, but the roles will be announced at the start of the game.
I will accept the first 18 signups in this thread. Once 18 has been reached, a further 24 hours will pass where I will accept additional signups up to a maximum of 28. The game will begin after those 24 hours have passed.
Starting in '10 hours', Doctor! Be patient! He never specified which planet's clock we were following, perhaps in Kropulu sector a day is = 3 of ours.. Or he may be using another obscure planet's time.. We never know.
With the website being down and me being busy, the start of this has obviously been delayed. I'll try get it up tomorrow but Nation Wars finals are on and I could be busy, i'll get it done asap
just a head's up, i might be voting late if it starts this weekend because i'll be at TGX(9-11 sep). so at least you guys know why i failed to vote or something.
Apologies for not starting the game yet, I have been quite busy over the last week and starting up the game is the most time consuming part (Gotta sort out roles, PM's etc)
Apologies for not starting the game yet, I have been quite busy over the last week and starting up the game is the most time consuming part (Gotta sort out roles, PM's etc)
you want me to do the setting up? cos i dont mind doin it. i have your PMs when i was selected as mafia so i pretty much have the templates for them.
2 Tortellini Family
3 Rossellini Family
2 Vigilantes
2 Informants
1 Doctor
1 Arsonist
1 Professional
1 Joker
7 Citizens/Survivors. There may or may not be survivors in this game.
If you didnt get a PM, you are a citizen.
And with that, it is now Daytime. Players have 48 hours to submit their Daytime Votes.
NOTE: ALL NIGHT TIME PMS ARE TO BE SENT TO xGkingBenji.
for those who received a pm, please pm me an acknowledgement so that I know that you know your role.
Before this dayphase ends, just want to give you guys a few pointers on the next voting phase in case I die tonight which is highly likely. I'll have to play my cards early this round. Sigh.... I was thinking of chilling for once.
1. My track record to date.
Lynched 0 citizen, 7 mafia (+ the one I killed during a night phase 2 rounds ago), and unfortunately 1 joker but the joker played the game well and obviously will want to be seen as a mafia but not reveal himself to be the joker too. Based on this alone, it is highly likely that the mafia will want to lynch me early given the opportunity rather than waste a kill on me during a nightphase. Zanderax lynching me for revenge for the past 2 rounds, gave them this opportunity. I don't think Zanderax is the mafia so unless he does something later on that proves otherwise, don't bother lynching him during a dayphase.
So, going by this, you can go through the list of people who voted for me today and take your pick as to whom you wish to lynch tomorrow.
2. Deciding whom to randomly lynch day 2.
I'd personally go for the more active member out of the list who voted for me solely because having 2 active members going after the mafia would benefit the town especially when 1 of the active members happen to be someone who hasn't lynched a citizen yet and has completely wrecked the mafia members. So basically, when an active member decides that I'm a liability to his chance of winning, you'd have to say that it's highly unlikely that he's got a citizen role or a doctor in fact because keeping me alive to be killed at night means that the doc can constantly save me/Deaths, gaining this immortal-like shield until the arsonist hits him of course or if he gets killed during a dayphase.
3. I love pattern analysis sections in psychometric tests.
My lynches haven't been by random luck. I lynched based on the actions of the players which indicated strong mafia-like behaviours which unfortunately, is rarely spotted by the others unless of course they have informant roles. You'd say that the first day's lynches are usually random but in this round's case, it's different because the mafia knows whom to fear. As I mentioned earlier, they'd take this perfect opportunity to kill the person who can weed them out one after another. The sooner/earlier the better whilst voting seems random. I was the only person who spotted a pattern in the second day's voting phase last round, which gave me the name of 2 mafia members instantly.
As of now, I know one person who is definitely NOT a townie. I believe he knows that I'm referring to him. I did make it a little obvious in some of my pointers.
Just thought I'd pop these few points in before I get stoned to death or shot in the head by both families. LOL!
Daytime has ended. Bugalugs McScruffin screamed as he was dragged off by the township to the parade square. He proclaimed his innocence as he was tied to a post. The town ignored his protests and proceeded to stone him to death. After his death, a search through his pockets showed that he was...
A member of the Rosellini family.
It is now Nighttime. Please PM your nighttime activities to xGKingBenji. Night time ends in 24 hours or when all night time activities have been concluded.
People left alive: 2 Tortellini Family
2 Rossellini Family
2 Vigilantes
2 Informants
1 Doctor
1 Arsonist
1 Professional
1 Joker
7 Citizens/Survivors. Player list:
1) Deathsfang
2) SMEG.Void
3) BakaInu
4) souljah
5) EveRorschach
6) Paroxysm
7) Crazerk
8) cruxis
9) Doctor
10) Zanderax
11) ThePandarine
12) Dtorr
13) Skrawl
14) Lemminks
15) Snod
16) mustapusta
17) deshface
18) pikk0n
19) next_rim
20) nobunaga
21) LennX
22) Bugalugs Killed by Citizens (Rosellini Family)
I think it was one of those magical barrier dealios, where you have to defeat all the enemies in the area before you can proceed. Helps against pickpockets, and once I'm dead I don't particularly care who goes through my pockets anyways.
Yeah, if it wasn't for the doctor getting killed, it would have been a perfect night. Whoever that vigilante is screwed up big time. I would love to hear their reasoning for taking a stab in the dark on night 1.
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Oh and now that my role is revealed. I hate you so much for making me the arsonist AGAIN, nard and Benji!!! I obviously got trolled. Chances of getting arsonist twice in 3 rounds is ridiculously low.... RAGE!!!
So,a good night for the town. Not a whole lot of information to go off, but with Pikkon picking a mafia right, I would guess that Bugalugs allies would try to save him and vote Pikkon.
There's a group of 3 players next to each other that voted for Pikkon (9, 10, 11). Now, considering there are 2 mafia members at the end, I would guess one, maybe 2 of those players are Mafia.
So, I will take a stab and vote Zanderax
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I also like voting for someone who picked pikkon last round, as that's really the only information we have to go on. Two of that list have a vote already today, so without wanting to add a third name to that list, i will vote Zanderax as well...
Have no idea why yall decided to pick Zanderax besides him voting Pikkon, and Pikkon voting Zanderax. Pikkon was Arsonist, he had 0 reasons to be picky about who to vote at this point in game, either citizen or mafia death suited him well.
I think it would be better for us to tie a pikkon voter to someone else of suspicion, and keep voting in ties till we find mafia. Testing two people per turn is better than one.
vote Zanderax because I know nobody would listen, and Zanderax is going down anyway.
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Upgrade : Give roaches invulnerability to nukes, as their namesake on Earth have.
Have no idea why yall decided to pick Zanderax besides him voting Pikkon, and Pikkon voting Zanderax. Pikkon was Arsonist, he had 0 reasons to be picky about who to vote at this point in game, either citizen or mafia death suited him well.
I think it would be better for us to tie a pikkon voter to someone else of suspicion, and keep voting in ties till we find mafia. Testing two people per turn is better than one.
vote Zanderax because I know nobody would listen, and Zanderax is going down anyway.
I will change my vote to Next-Rim, as only a Mafia could think going for constant ties is a good idea.
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I always vote for pikk0n. He remember lest round. And the round before that. We have had an awesome rivalry ever since. That's the only reason why I voted him. I voted him before we started anyway so there is nothing helpful there.
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DT rush. The only good strategy.
Clan ToR
Zanderax 611
As I proved 2 games before that with pure math, constantly tieing same player over 3-4 round is in fact better, than random lynching for same rounds. Refer to Me vs Crazerk somewhere in mid-game 2 games ago. Thats exactly what I'm suggesting - pick one pikkon voter and keep tieing him over and over.
add: in fact, you can think of it in terms of logic, not numbers. Say we random lynch every round. Plain and simple. Now let's say we pick a random player and keep him tied with another. We are picking two random players, and one dies to lynch. In essence, we are doing same thing - lynching a random person, except for we are testing another while at it. Killing two stones with one bird, as long as it happens consistently over several rounds.
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Upgrade : Give roaches invulnerability to nukes, as their namesake on Earth have.
Last edited by Next_rim; Tue, 13th-Sep-2011 at 5:02 PM.
Killing two stones with one bird, as long as it happens consistently over several rounds.
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Originally Posted by Next_rim
Smashing stones with a biologically produced mass is to a certain degree harder, than killing a fragile living creature with a stone. Thus, rephrasing is not only humorous at some angle, but stresses the difficulty of the underlying task, and how the method proposed accomplishes the seemingly impossible. I personally find the rephrased version absurd, thus funny, but still carrying some wit. Feel free to disagree, I don't care as long as you get my point
I see the logic. Personally absurd does not automatically equal funny, but again, I can appreciate the humour of the phrase. In the end my issue is that it is impossible to kill stones with anything. To kill something it must, by definition, have been alive at some point. Since stones are not alive they can not be killed, no matter how many birds you throw at them.
I don't see how rephrasing the regular adage helps emphasizes your point. Isn't the original accurate enough?
I have something to say about the flawed logic of extricating information from the first round, but I shall save it for until I get killed by Mafia to reveal it (probably next night anyway, since there's no more Doctor)
Anyway, I vote SMEG.void again and I'm not responsible for any dimwits who follow suit for whatever reason they have.
Last edited by crAzerk; Tue, 13th-Sep-2011 at 9:53 PM.
I don't see how rephrasing the regular adage helps emphasizes your point. Isn't the original accurate enough?
Smashing stones with a biologically produced mass is to a certain degree harder, than killing a fragile living creature with a stone. Thus, rephrasing is not only humorous at some angle, but stresses the difficulty of the underlying task, and how the method proposed accomplishes the seemingly impossible. I personally find the rephrased version absurd, thus funny, but still carrying some wit. Feel free to disagree, I don't care as long as you get my point
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Upgrade : Give roaches invulnerability to nukes, as their namesake on Earth have.
Ah, now I see your logic. But as said, would have been funnier if it actualy made sense (I.e. Stones can be killed).
Regardless, it wasn't a v good joke. Thus I conclude you're not the Joker.
The crowd grew deathly silence as Zanderax was marched out from his cell in which he was kept since morning that day. He had been grabbed from his bed after a not-so-secret vote had been taken to kill him.
As he looked out to the townspeople, he cursed and shouted "I know who voted for me... and I will ensure that none of your puppies give birth to kittens!" The crowd looked at him in bewilderment and decided that such madness must be punished.
Zanderax was killed by the townspeople. He was a Vigilante.
1) Deathsfangvoted cruxis 2) SMEG.Voidvoted snod 3) BakaInu voted skrawl 4) souljahvoted Zanderax 5) EveRorschach voted ThePandarine 6) Paroxysm 7) Crazerk voted SMEG.Void 8) cruxis voted next_rim 9) Doctor 10) Zanderax voted next_rimand was killed by the Citizens. (Vigilante) 11) ThePandarinevoted Doctor 12) Dtorr voted skrawl 13) Skrawl voted BakaInu 14) Lemminks 15) Snodvoted mustapusta 16) mustapustavoted Deathsfang 17) deshfacevoted Zanderax 18) pikk0n - Killed by the Tortellini Family (Arsonist) 19) next_rimvoted Zanderax 20) nobunaga - Killed by The Rossellini Family (Tortellini Family) 21) LennX - Killed by the Vigilante (Doctor)
22) Bugalugs -Killed by Citizens (Rosellini Family)
Zanderax - 3 votes
next_rim - 2 votes
skrawl - 2 votes
BakaInu - 1 vote
ThePandarine - 1 vote
SMEG.Void - 1 vote
cruxis - 1 vote
Deathsfang - 1 vote
Snod - 1 vote
Doctor - 1 vote
mustapusta - 1 vote
Paroxysm, Doctor and Lemminks missed their vote. They would be auto killed if they miss their next Daytime vote.
It is now Night time. PM your Night time activities to xGKingBenji.
Nice story there, nard. by the way, at the end of the game, can you reveal which vigi killed lennx? If it was zanderax, he totally deserved to be lynched. Lol.... told you guys zanderax was innocent. Not sure how you came to the conclusion that he is guilty tho... Hehe....
Like he said I was a mad vigilantie. Your puppy (lennx) will never give birth to kittens (babies) (He was a doctor). I'm a crazy man. I deserve to die. Good game.
P.S. I chose Lennx because his name was between 2 dead people and I like patterns.
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DT rush. The only good strategy.
Clan ToR
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Last edited by Zanderax; Thu, 15th-Sep-2011 at 3:37 PM.
Like he said I was a mad vigilantie. Your puppy (lennx) will never give birth to kittens (babies) (He was a doctor). I'm a crazy man. I deserve to die. Good game.
P.S. I chose Lennx because his name was between 2 dead people and I like patterns.
As I said before, I ♥ you. T_T
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Early game loss = Cheese
Mid game Loss = All in
Late game Loss = Imbalance
souljah, would it have to have been two survivors?
I guess it depends on how you read the rule. First attempt is a missed/fail, but second attempt in the same night is a success is how I read it, but who knows... oh yeah, Benji of course. :P
I had to decide, if there was too many there would be a balance issue.
I assume I'm crazy, but I read this as you tried to RNG the number of survivors and it came out with a stupid number, so you had to choose. Not that it matters either way.
So you have two survivors that are now vulnerable. o_O
LOL!!!! This is interesting. Didn't realise that there could be more than 1 survivor... By the way, how will this work out if 2 survivors remain in the last 4?
LOL!!!! This is interesting. Didn't realise that there could be more than 1 survivor... By the way, how will this work out if 2 survivors remain in the last 4?
The survivors are working independently, so I don't see why that will be a problem
Ok... stupid example then. Say 2 survivors in the last 3 means both survivors win? Or in the unlikeliest of cases, 3 survivors in the last 3. LOL!
Say mafia is already dead. Then you have 3 survivors and 2 citi remaining. In the last 5... Does citi get the win for killing off the mafia or will they have to somehow kill the survivors? Because survivors can just auto-win in this case if they identify each other.
2 survivors in last 3 means both win along with that 3rd guy whatever his role is
3 citizens 2 survivors will mean 5 winners, since survivors are neutral aligned and so whenever citizen-side(adding the 'side' because there are citizen-side roles that are not 'citizens', such as informant, etc)or mafia wins, the survivor wins too. So yes, they are of little threat.. Unless they're actively gunning for mafia/someone in day phase
Mustapusta voted snod, and snod voted back. Then Doctor voted Crazerk, and he voted back. I know Cruxis will vote for me because he doesn't understand math. So I vote Cruxis in advance. Now it's 1:1:1:1:11?).
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Upgrade : Give roaches invulnerability to nukes, as their namesake on Earth have.
Mustapusta voted snod, and snod voted back. Then Doctor voted Crazerk, and he voted back. I know Cruxis will vote for me because he doesn't understand math. So I vote Cruxis in advance. Now it's 1:1:1:1:11?).
Hurr durr.
vote doctor, as he is in that section to be a Mafia.
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Yea right! Why would you announce it now?
1) As a matter of fact, I wanted to announce it right at the start of the game, but I was mistaken about the Professional's role - I remembered his job was to 'kill those not benefiting society' and ... clearly Survivor does not benefit directly! So I thought Professional could kill me if I exposed myself.
HOWEVER, after the revelation that there are actually more than 1 survivor I went to re-read the roles, and realized that the Professional is only interested in killing " Informat, Vigilante and Joker"!
Why would you announce it?
2) Obviously, because I want to survive. Read on.
Why should the Mafia not kill me?
3) I am of no threat. If you've seen my previous votes I'm just throwing my votes randomly, and I'm actually just directing my votes on one person (smegvoid random choice) so I don't make too many ppl 'upset', as you know ppl get upset when you vote for them. I just want to survive)
I'm just in it for the ride, enjoying the drama going on and contributing whatever I can to it.
Clearly, I do not boast the same leet record as pikk0n of 7-0 100% Mafia-identification rate or whatever he said, in fact, I only present facts and make my observations.. which are not always accurate.
You are better off trying to figure out who the Professional (as he can kill you), Vigilante and Informant are. (Why they are of threat to you is obvious)
Why should the Citizen-side not kill me?
4) Once again, I am of no threat. I am not aligned to either side and I can't kill you at night.
I can't kill you in the day either - My 'efforts' in leading citizen lynches haven't been great either, I always lose LOL. So there's no point killing me.
Citizens (and Citizen-aligned roles) need to align to get rid of the remaining 3 (? If i dont recall wrongly) mafia, I haven't gone pattern hunting but I have a hunch.
Yea right you're probably Mafia and your'e talking crap.
Think about it this way - why would a Mafia suddenly come out for no reason and put such a big target on his back? Mafia would just sit under the radar, and cruise and come out till later on. Anyone who has been Mafia before would know it's better to stay low. Out of sight, out of mind.
Citizen: I don't believe you anyway I'm going to vote you !@$&# head
Well go ahead, you're wasting your vote if you do that, and not contributing to the Mafia-hunt that should be happening.
Mafia: I don't believe you anyway I'm going to snipe you at night with my Mafia guns
I must remind you of the fact that there are multiple Survivors in this game. Whether I am one of those who got hit by a Mafia, I do not know (You would), but there's a chance I've not been hit. If so, you would be entirely wasting a night shot on me, instead of taking out higher priority threats.
If you did not Mafia-vote me last night, more likely than not, I still have my Survivor-protection
Ok one last question - why are you voting Doctor then?
Partially a tit-for-tat 'protection' vote, he voted me so I throw the ball right back at him, so that there are more names up for those who like to latch onto a trend and follow suit in their votes.
Partially because he was one of those who hopped on the vote-for-pikk0n train as he was probably worried that his role will be exposed. Just what is his role?
EDIT: "I know Cruxis will vote for me because he doesn't understand math" LOL.
voting cruxis because he posted above me and i'm too lazy to be contributive.
With this post alone, it has come to my attention that either Crazerk or DeathsFang is a liar.
With Crazerk's post about being the survivor, he has admitted that he knows his role as the survivor, thus being able to come out.
On the other hand, with this quote, DeathsFang speaks as if he is unsure if he is a survivor or not. That puts doubts in my mind as to if Crazerk is trying to claim a role he cannot be, or if DeathsFang is trying to bluff us all with his "Probably a survivor" line. Think about it guys. With that, i change my vote to Crazerk based on this inconsistency
Hmmm, there could be 2 survivors. Me being randomly targeted for unknown reasons (cough >.>) and crAzerk being a blabbermouth we could both be survivors but whatever happens, happens.
Also to note, crAzerk in the past has done the exact same thing, not sure which round but we all know what a great liar he is.
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I don't blame you for being you, but you can't blame me for hating it
There is DEFINITELY more than 1 survivor, that has been established already if you read the preceding posts.
I've never done 'the exact same thing', I've never been Survivor before! And as I've explained in my post if you bothered reading, there's NO REASON for me to do so at this time if I'm NOT survivor. I was not in danger of getting voting out, etc.
Okay crAzerk not the exact same thing but you have manipulated it so your in the clear before.
And from what Next_rim was saying i am by no means saying i am a survivor. I am just suggesting that i might be given past history. Anyway, if i am, the mafia has wasted a night-time kill and should hopefully leave me alone. Hopefully....
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I don't blame you for being you, but you can't blame me for hating it
I'm a Survivor. I didn't get a PM last night, saying anything about using a life, so I don't think I was attacked. But I don't know if Benji PM's that info or not, so I could have been.
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Yea, definetely more than 1 survivor in this round but you cant really trust any of them, though since everyone is claiming to be a survivor so my decisions will not change even if you do claim to be one.
Vote crazerk because if he's truthful and turns out to actually be a survivor and dies, well it happens. But if everyone believes that he's survivor and he is actually mafia, he gets a free ride into the last couple of rounds. It's a risky move, yes, but I dunno, not buying it this round.
Firstly i'd like to apologise for being away. I have been on a school ski trip, and have only had access to a computer as of today. I am going to vote for Doctor as a random vote, as I have absolutely no clue what has been going on in the last few days and i have had no chance to catch up on information. Again, sorry.
The old lady rubs her hands in glee as she views the current status of the town vote. Her plans are coming to fruition....
NOTE: this line has nothing to do with roles within the current mafia game. its just a segue for an ongoing storyline. Speculation does absolutely nothing.
1) Deathsfang voted cruxis 2) SMEG.Void voted cruxis 3) BakaInu
4) souljah voted cruxis
5) EveRorschach voted Crazerk 6) Paroxysm voted Doctor 7) Crazerk voted Doctor
8) cruxis voted Doctor 9) Doctor voted Crazerk 10) Zanderax - Killed by Citizens. (Vigilante) 11) ThePandarine voted mustapusta 12) Dtorr voted Deathsfang
13) Skrawl voted Doctor
14) Lemminks voted cruxis 15) Snod voted mustapusta 16) mustapusta voted crazerk 17) deshface voted cruxis 18) pikk0n - Killed by the Tortellini Family (Arsonist) 19) next_rim voted cruxis 20) nobunaga - Killed by The Rossellini Family (Tortellini Family) 21) LennX - Killed by the Vigilante (Doctor) 22) Bugalugs -Killed by Citizens (Rosellini Family)
16 votes in 1 to go. Roughly 4 hours before its night time.
If cruxis is telling the truth that he is a survivor, then the theory that the darker black writing of cruxis and my name proves that we are survivors since I too am with the role of survivor.
Well, I'm going to die it looks like, last vote can't save me. I am the survivor, which could explain the bold. I don't see why such an obvious hint would be given out though...
I was thinking there were 3 survivors, because there were no kills, and as far as I'm aware, i didn't get hit.
if you're a survivor as well, then you must have been hit and survived. Did you get a message along these lines?
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Last edited by cruxis; Sat, 17th-Sep-2011 at 8:46 PM.
to i wanna change my vote to save you know...but thn itll still be 5-6..and im new to the game so i dont know how to change my vote but i wanna change my to Doctor now
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Last edited by ToRPandarine; Sat, 17th-Sep-2011 at 11:52 PM.
Reason: to hopefully save someone
i wanna change my vote to save you know...but thn itll still be 5-6..and im new to the game so i dont know how to change my vote but i wanna vote for Doctor now
Just bold the whole 'Change my vote to Doctor' section and you're good to go.
Just a reminder to everyone, Be sure to notice people who claimed survivors and people who assumed they were survivors. i got a sticky feeling someone may come after my pitiful FOREVERALONE.jpg life
The old lady, let's give her a name, let's call her Mary, shouts out loud as cruxis was "cruxificed" in what seems to be the worst pun ever in the world. She watches on TV as the unfortunate cruxis was marched to the council... Jeff Probst (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Probst) looks cruxisin the eye and extinguishes his flame.
He failed to Survive.
For the benefit of those slower on the uptake (yes you pikk0n), he was a Survivor.
1) Deathsfang voted cruxis 2) SMEG.Void voted cruxis 3) BakaInu voted skrawl
4) souljah voted cruxis
5) EveRorschach voted Crazerk 6) Paroxysm voted Doctor 7) Crazerk voted Doctor
8) cruxis voted Doctor- Killed by Citizens. (Survivor) 9) Doctor voted cruxis 10) Zanderax - Killed by Citizens. (Vigilante) 11) ThePandarine voted Doctor 12) Dtorr voted Deathsfang
13) Skrawl voted Doctor
14) Lemminks voted cruxis 15) Snod voted mustapusta 16) mustapusta voted crazerk 17) deshface voted cruxis 18) pikk0n - Killed by the Tortellini Family (Arsonist) 19) next_rim voted cruxis 20) nobunaga - Killed by The Rossellini Family (Tortellini Family) 21) LennX - Killed by the Vigilante (Doctor) 22) Bugalugs -Killed by Citizens (Rosellini Family)
I wish cruxis and I had swapped roles..... D: Arsonist.... grumbles.... You basically have to survive to the last 2 and hope the bloody informants die before they decided to nvestigate you.... The role that takes the longest to win....
My theory was correct then. Mafia if you shoot me you will just waste your chance of winning. Citizens Voting me won't benefit you at all as you can obviously see. Also CrAzerk is lying about been survivor since I am the sole survivor left.
My theory was correct then. Mafia if you shoot me you will just waste your chance of winning. Citizens Voting me won't benefit you at all as you can obviously see. Also CrAzerk is lying about been survivor since I am the sole survivor left.
I don't know where you got the idea that there are only 2 Survivors, as discussed before there could very well be 2 or more.
In addition, it seems like I have done too good a job in outlining why people shouldn't kill me as I'm a Survivor as now suddenly DtorR is trying to pretend to be one.
If only it was as easy as that, I could just screenshot the PM I got and post it here.
However, this is against the rules as said before in previous rounds of Mafia, so... :/
Also posting of any screenshots is prohibited. Post, and die!
(And before anyone reads into this, I don't remember off the top of my head who is what, and haven't checked my list lately :P)
Benji's typical weekends. Best time to get lynched in the past few mafia rounds has been during weekends when you get the extra 12-24 hours to plead your case. Unfortunately, this time he has nard.... *shakes fist* My cheating days are now gone!
Benji's typical weekends. Best time to get lynched in the past few mafia rounds has been during weekends when you get the extra 12-24 hours to plead your case. Unfortunately, this time he has nard.... *shakes fist* My cheating days are now gone!
It's pretty hard to cheat when you are already dead.
Ok, since night votes are locked, it's time to look at certain things. This post is going to be a recap of everything that has happened so far, with some basic thoughts of mine.
There is this misconception that you can look at votestacking in day 1 and decide from there who is Mafia, since it's typical that Mafia will vote together.
However, think for a moment if YOU were Mafia. Would you do that? Certainly not. Back when I was Mafia I know my team more or less spread out their votes precisely to avoid this pattern.
HOWEVER, this pattern MAY arise if in the first round, your fellow Mafia member is under pressure. Naturally, one or two may just pretend to be 'hopping on the train' to vote someone else to save their fellow Mafia.
Up until Lemmink's vote (his was 5th on Bug), Bugalugs was clearly in the vote lead. Who then proceeded to vote stack on pikk0n? Doctor, Bugalugs, nobunga.
Suspicious? Perhaps.
(Note that I excluded people who placed a vote on pikk0n before the vote-train on Bugalugs, because it doesn't make sense to suspect them when it was really a random vote (no pre-existing factors/vote))
Night 1
Nobunga killed by Mafia (he is Mafia too) , pikk0n killed by Mafia (he is Arsonist), Lennx killed by Vigilante (he is Doctor)
cruxis votes Zanderax > deshface votes Zanderax > souljah votes Zanderax (All 3 people, deshface, cruxis and souljah claim their vote for Zand is because he voted for pikk0n, which as I've said before doesn't really make sense. If they really did want to do this, they should've voted Doctor, who was one of those who vote-stacked after Bugalugs was in danger)
next_rim votes Zanderax (he claims he votes as such as it's inevitable that Zand is going down, despite him believing in ties.) > Deathsfang votes cruxis > cruxis vote changes to next_rim (not buying the tying story)
next_rim defends his tying logic, also introduces a complex metaphor > Zanderax votes next_rim > crazerk votes smegvoid
It could be just laziness in checking (didn't realize Zand was the original voter and not one of the vote-stackers) that led cruxis, dethface and souljah to make their votes for Zand. Then again, it could be that they (at least 1 or 2) are Mafia and are trying to pin something on an innocent person.
Next_rim? possible too. Any vote-stacker always draws suspicion to himself, if the rationale for his vote isn't quite clear.
This was the only apparent trend this round, the rest of the votes were not of significant interest.
It should also be noted that Doctor, Paroxysm and Lemminks all missed their day vote.
Night 2
Noone was killed at night.
The direct implication of this is that there are at least 2 Survivors in the game, and both Mafia teams hit one Survivor each.
ThePandarine votes mustapasta > mustapasta votes snod > Doctor votes crazerk
Crazerk votes Doctor > snod votes mustapasta > next_rim votes cruxis
crazerk announces that he is Survivor and explains why you shouldn't kill him
cruxis votes doctor > Deathsfang votes cruxis > souljah votes cruxis
smegvoid votes cruxis > mustapasta changes vote to crazerk > deshface votes cruxis
Dtorr votes Deathsfang > cruxis announces he is Survivor > EveRorschach votes crazerk
Paroxysm votes Doctor > Skrawl votes Doctor > Lemminks votes cruxis > Dtorr announces he's Survivor
Bakainu votes scrawl > ThePandarine changes vote to Doctor > Doctor changes vote to cruxis
Result - cruxis is voted out, he was a Survivor (not quite)
I found the sudden vote dump on cruxis highly odd. Deathsfang, souljah, smegvoid, deshface and Lemminks were part of this vote dump. Doctor's vote change is for obvious reasons (to save himself)
I found Lemminks' vote to be slightly suspicious as at that point, his vote only served to increase the buffer between Doctor and cruxis - if you were truly neutral and random you would just vote for one of the lesser votes people or make a random vote. This is NOT definitive of course.
The others who participated in the vote dump should not be ignored too.
It is worthwhile to note that from Day 2 on there are only 1 Tort 2 Ross Mafia members. This means one of the Mafia is working independently and the other are a pair.
Dtorr claims to be Survivor - something which I DO believe.
This is because it makes no sense for a Mafia player to claim he is Survivor when he isn't even in trouble in the first place.
Citizen-aligned role claiming to be Survivor? Don't quite see the point either. It just puts a target on yourself.
Joker? Quite possible.
I've always had my suspicions on Doctor from the Day 1 vote pattern. Remember the vote stack on pikk0n from Nobunga, Bugalugs and Doctor? Note that Nobunga and Bugalugs were both Mafia BUT they were from different families. Thus they were not working together!
It seems like Doctor could very well be Nobunga or Bugalugs' Mafia partner.
deshface has been part of the vote train since Day 2. His vote on Day 1 was seemingly random but that could be because he was not from the same Mafia family as Bugalugs so didn't have to protect him. In Day 2 and 3 he hops on the random mob lynch without any real reason.
souljah is another 'vote train' player (part of vote train in Day 2 and 3), and importantly - he also voted for pikk0n in Day 1. He could be in the same family as Doctor and Bugalugs, for all we know.
All in all, the next 3 votes should be for Doctor, souljah then deshface.
With that, I'm probably going to get killed in the next night (if I'm not already killed tonight), so gl and have fun everyone I had fun doing this recap
Please do correct me if I made a factual error somewhere, may have done so as this was a long post :/
Last edited by crAzerk; Mon, 19th-Sep-2011 at 6:17 PM.
Crazerk has been killed by the Tortellini Family. He is a Citizen.
Paroxysm has been killed by the Rossellini Family and the Professional. He is the Joker. The Professional is a Winner, however will remain nameless until he/she is killed.
Doctor has been killed by a Vigilante. He is an Informat.
1) Deathsfang 2) SMEG.Void 3) BakaInu 4) souljah 5) EveRorschach 6) Paroxysm - Killed by The Rossellini Family (Joker) 7) Crazerk - Killed by the Tortellini Family (Citizen) 8) cruxis - Killed by Citizens. (Survivor) 9) Doctor - Killed by the Vigilante (Informat) 10) Zanderax - Killed by the Citizens (Vigilante) 11) ThePandarine 12) Dtorr 13) Skrawl 14) Lemminks 15) Snod 16) mustapusta 17) deshface 18) pikk0n - Killed by the Tortellini Family (Arsonist) 19) next_rim 20) nobunaga - Killed by The Rossellini Family (Tortellini Family) 21) LennX - Killed by the Vigilante (Doctor) 22) Bugalugs -Killed by Citizens (Rosellini Family)
It is now Daytime. Daytime will finish in 48 hours or once all votes are in.
Last edited by Benji; Tue, 20th-Sep-2011 at 10:54 AM.
For those wondering why I bothered to come up with the whole Survivor bit - I felt that I would be a target of the Mafia, so I wanted to try to avoid that. Apparently didn't work. At least I got my long post out before I died
Last edited by crAzerk; Tue, 20th-Sep-2011 at 12:13 AM.
For those wondering why I bothered to come up with the whole Survivor bit - I felt that I would be a target of the Mafia, so I wanted to try to avoid that. Apparently didn't work. At least I got my long post out before I died
Got it out JUST in time but judging from the voting pattern so far, I doubt half of them would even bother reading. LOL!!!
I was under the impression that survivor's AND citizen's didn't get pm'd and that it was just random. Then i'm not a survivor, i'm a citizen but meh, no one will believe me/not read and then i'll die and it will be revealed that i'm citizen and blablabla whatever good game
Edit: vote myself because pikkon gave me the idea and there's no point voting anyone else im just gonna get lynched
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Last edited by ToRDeathsFang; Tue, 20th-Sep-2011 at 4:30 PM.
I was under the impression that survivor's AND citizen's didn't get pm'd and that it was just random. Then i'm not a survivor, i'm a citizen but meh, no one will believe me/not read and then i'll die and it will be revealed that i'm citizen and blablabla whatever good game
Edit: vote myself because pikkon gave me the idea and there's no point voting anyone else im just gonna get lynched
What happened to your avatar? Do you lose it once you hit 500+ posts?
DeathsFang, if there are 13 people left, and 6 have already voted for you, your vote secures your own lynching. Why not try and derail the current vote train and start a new one. I'd love to see a vote come down to 7 to 6.
Don't give up just yet, DeathsFang.
Last edited by Bugalugs McScruffin; Tue, 20th-Sep-2011 at 4:36 PM.
Reason: Stupid grammatical errors. :/
Voting Bugalugs. Don't think dtorr is mafia, but he looks screwed. Might change if a better case is put for someone.
Yeah, I mean you can try and vote for me, but I was very soundly lynched in the first round.
If the admins are willing to revive me so that I can be voted on that would be fantastic, but I'm dead...
Of course I would be insta-lynched for being a Mafia then. :/
The onlookers in the courtroom looked smug as they watched the trial with vested interest. Deathsfang was brought before the court and accused of being a Mafia member. He never bothered to defend himself. After two quick days of testimony and finger pointing, the jury decided that Deathsfang was guilty of being a mafia. He was sentenced to death.
It was no longer a question of whether he was a mafia or not, it was a question of which family he belonged to, the Tortellini, or the Rosselini.
After his death by hanging, neither family came forward to claim his body.
He was a Citizen.
Elsewhere, Mary cackled as she saw the public hanging of Deathsfang, just one more phone call....
1) Deathsfang Killed by Citizens. (Citizen) 2) SMEG.Void voted deathsfang
3) BakaInu voted deathsfang
4) souljah voted deathsfang
5) EveRorschach voted Dtorr
6) Paroxysm - Killed by The Rossellini Family (Joker)
7) Crazerk - Killed by the Tortellini Family (Citizen)
8) cruxis - Killed by Citizens. (Survivor)
9) Doctor - Killed by the Vigilante (Informat)
10) Zanderax - Killed by the Citizens (Vigilante)
11) ThePandarine voted deathsfang
12) Dtorr
13) Skrawl voted deathsfang
14) Lemminks
15) Snod voted deathsfang
16) mustapusta voted deathsfang
17) deshface voted deathsfang
18) pikk0n - Killed by the Tortellini Family (Arsonist)
19) next_rim voted deathsfang
20) nobunaga - Killed by The Rossellini Family (Tortellini Family)
21) LennX - Killed by the Vigilante (Doctor)
22) Bugalugs -Killed by Citizens (Rosellini Family)
Lemminks and dtorr has missed this round's vote. They will be killed should they miss the next day time vote.
It is now Night time. All PMs to be sent to xGKingBenji. Night time ends after 24 hours or when all possible PMs are in.
souljah has been killed by the Rossellini Family. He is a Citizen.
DtorR has been killed by the Tortellini Family. He is a Survivor.
EveRorschach has been killed by the Professional. He is a Vigilante.
1) Deathsfang Killed by Citizens. (Citizen) 2) SMEG.Void
3) BakaInu
4) souljah - Killed by The Rossellini Family (Citizen) 5) EveRorschach - Killed by the Professional (Vigilante) 6) Paroxysm - Killed by The Rossellini Family (Joker)
7) Crazerk - Killed by the Tortellini Family (Citizen)
8) cruxis - Killed by Citizens. (Survivor)
9) Doctor - Killed by the Vigilante (Informat)
10) Zanderax - Killed by the Citizens (Vigilante)
11) ThePandarine
12) Dtorr - Killed by the Tortellini Family (Survivor) 13) Skrawl
14) Lemminks
15) Snod
16) mustapusta
17) deshface
18) pikk0n - Killed by the Tortellini Family (Arsonist)
19) next_rim
20) nobunaga - Killed by The Rossellini Family (Tortellini Family)
21) LennX - Killed by the Vigilante (Doctor)
22) Bugalugs -Killed by Citizens (Rossellini Family)
It is now Daytime. Players have 48 hours to submit their Daytime votes.
By the reaction test of initiating the first vote from yesterday, snod and bakainu were very fast on the bandwagon without any reasoning at all.
but i'll continue from my day1 gut feelings and vote Snod
HAHAHAHAHA! I knew it... Rorsh was the vigi.... Wow... for a moment there, I thought Dtorr was a mafia. So, we have 1-2 mafia (from each family), 2 citi/survivor, 1 informant and 1 prof(actually, he's the survivor now), and um.... By the way, nard.... That character list you gave us earlier, only had 17 players.... Not 22.... Does this mean we have 2 more citi/survivors?
So 5 town aligned (discounting the survivors), 1 neutral, and 3 mafia.
Last edited by pikk0n; Thu, 22nd-Sep-2011 at 10:18 PM.
Lol gg. Whoever was mafia really had bird poo for brains wasting a shot on survivor since it doesn't really benefit mafia. But yeah 4 civies and an informant vs 3 mafia. Looks like the odds are starting to favour mafia now.
Vote mustapusta for making clueless claims. BakaInu and Snod are clearly not associated, go back and look at votes. And gut feeling is never a solid argument.
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Lol best case scenario now would be for citizens to lynch Ross family, and at night Mafia kill each other xD that would make for a hilarious finish! Haha
People that voted for Snod
Mustapusta, ThePandarine, BakaInu, SMEG.VoiD
People that Voted for BakaInu
Snod,Lemminks
I'm sure Next_Rim is definately not the informat, more likely to be the professional.
I made myself sound extremely scummy, but Snod did not vote for me and try tear apart my flimsy argument, and instead votes for BakaInu. Lemminks was fast to vote on Inu with a bandwagon reason.
Assumption
If snod dies as a rosellini, Lemminks is very likely the last rosellini. (Based on past votes, they follow the same trend except for one time)
Bakainu might be a Tortellini, but he might also be a citizen/survivor.
Next_Rim is not an informat, likely Professional
At the time of assumption, Desh and Skrawl has yet to vote.
If either of these two are mafia they're likely tortellini- the only time we actually have lynched a mafia member (rossellini family by 1 vote) they both voted for him.
Snod made his way down to jail. He knew full well his fate and the futility of fighting it. He just couldn't fathom how an upstanding Citizen like him could be mistaken for a mafia. He faced the firing squad straight up. Their first volley missed totally. That's what you get when you have no more than 2 Vigilantes. No one else could shoot straight. The second volley somehow managed to maim him. Snod lay there for the better part of an hour as the rest of town scrounged for bullets. Dinner time then came and everyone forgot that Snod was still lying there bleeding to death.
Death came anyway.
Snod was killed by the Citizens. He was a Citizen.
1) Deathsfang Killed by Citizens. (Citizen) 2) SMEG.Void voted Snod
3) BakaInu voted Snod
4) souljah - Killed by The Rossellini Family (Citizen) 5) EveRorschach - Killed by the Professional (Vigilante) 6) Paroxysm - Killed by The Rossellini Family (Joker)
7) Crazerk - Killed by the Tortellini Family (Citizen)
8) cruxis - Killed by Citizens. (Survivor)
9) Doctor - Killed by the Vigilante (Informat)
10) Zanderax - Killed by the Citizens (Vigilante)
11) ThePandarine voted Snod 12) Dtorr - Killed by the Tortellini Family (Survivor) 13) Skrawl
14) Lemminks voted BakaInu 15) Snod voted BakaInuand was killed by the Citizens (Citizen) 16) mustapusta voted Snod 17) deshface voted BakaInu 18) pikk0n - Killed by the Tortellini Family (Arsonist)
19) next_rim voted mustapusta 20) nobunaga - Killed by The Rossellini Family (Tortellini Family)
21) LennX - Killed by the Vigilante (Doctor)
22) Bugalugs -Killed by Citizens (Rossellini Family)
Out of the 4 that voted for Snod, 3 are mafia.
I CLOSE MY CASE AND I HAVE MY WILL OUT NOW
WILL : Apologies to DeathsFang and Snod for getting y'all killed. now i join you all in hell :<
ROFLMAO! This is why the doctor should have kept me alive. At least when I do lynch, I don't lynch citis. I'm laughing so hard now at the daytime lynches.
Edit: By the way, mods. Seeing that the prof has used up his 2 kills and is now just a survivor, would he be considered suspicious if an informant investigates him tonight?
Edit: By the way, mods. Seeing that the prof has used up his 2 kills and is now just a survivor, would he be considered suspicious if an informant investigates him tonight?
Because he/she won, they are still a Professional, and will show as such during investigations.
Next_Rim has been killed by the Tortellini Family. He is a member of the Rossellini Family.
Bakainu has been killed by the Rossellini Family. He is an Informat.
1) Deathsfang Killed by Citizens. (Citizen) 2) SMEG.Void
3) BakaInu - Killed by the Rossellini Family (Informat) 4) souljah - Killed by The Rossellini Family (Citizen) 5) EveRorschach - Killed by the Professional (Vigilante) 6) Paroxysm - Killed by The Rossellini Family (Joker)
7) Crazerk - Killed by the Tortellini Family (Citizen)
8) cruxis - Killed by Citizens. (Survivor)
9) Doctor - Killed by the Vigilante (Informat)
10) Zanderax - Killed by the Citizens (Vigilante)
11) ThePandarine 12) Dtorr - Killed by the Tortellini Family (Survivor) 13) Skrawl
14) Lemminks
15) Snod - Killed by the Citizens (Citizen) 16) mustapusta 17) deshface 18) pikk0n - Killed by the Tortellini Family (Arsonist)
19) next_rim - Killed by the Tortellini Family (Rossellini Family)
20) nobunaga - Killed by The Rossellini Family (Tortellini Family)
21) LennX - Killed by the Vigilante (Doctor)
22) Bugalugs -Killed by Citizens (Rossellini Family)
It is now Daytime, players have 48 hours to submit their daytime votes.
Last edited by Benji; Mon, 26th-Sep-2011 at 10:24 PM.
Well, last night's kill was beneficial. A dead informant is a bad trade-off but now you guys have just 1 kill per night to deal with. 6 Players left. Would the mafia dupe the citis into killing yet another one of their own or would the citis somehow miraculously get their lynch correct!!!! *drum rolls*
now you guys have just 1 kill per night to deal with
Wrong, it's still 2 families.
FUUU i know who the Tortellini is, too bad I can't tell yall. I thought I have one more round till he will go for me, was gonna snipe him next night. Gogo teamie, I have faith in you.
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now you guys have just 1 kill per night to deal with
Wrong, it's still 2 families.
FUUU i know who the Tortellini is, too bad I can't tell yall. I thought I have one more round till he will go for me, was gonna snipe him next night. Gogo teamie, I have faith in you.
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Upgrade : Give roaches invulnerability to nukes, as their namesake on Earth have.
OH!!! LOL!!! My bad. I thought bugalugs was in the 2 member family. 2 more kills.... Lemme think... If citi gets lynched now, then tonight mafia kills 2 more citis, um... that means the next day time lynch = 2 mafia 1 citi = gg citi. Same as last round. LOL! The remaining dude will decide who wins. Hehe....
And I know I'm wrong when Next_rim makes 2 posts to emphasise this point. :'( You're so mean... HEARTLESS!!!
i went back to check who rim has voted for that actually survived, and i am sad to say none, with the exception of me. i would be trying to imply that i'm not part of the ross family. right now, a role claim is best and we can take our time to pick out the fakes from the reals.
I'm a Citi! I SWEAR! Jeez!! Don't kill me...er...vote...er....vote...SMEG.Void (sorry mate) cause i kinda believe mustapusta wouldnt lie....would ya mate?
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@mustapusta: you yourself said that out of the four who voted Snod, 3 of em are Mafia. Seeing that you and I are both Citis and BakaInu is, excuse me, was an Informant it leaves to suggest that SMEG.Void is a Mafia. That or you could be lying through your teeth and are actually the last member of the two families.
Then, again, I could be lying through my teeth too but seriously, would a Mafia member have a change in heart to save someone he barely knows? That and I'm a complete newbie at the Mafia scene so it wouldn't make sense for me to balls it up now would it?
That and it could be just that the Citis have just had plain poor luck this game around and SMEG.Void for all we know is a Citi.
Which leaves us the final question, assuming that you and I are Citis in the first place, who is the other Citi and who are the last two Mafia members. I feel though that the last two members are people who have played the game before which makes this a little bit harder :/
Yeah, we're screwed lol XD
@Benji: Didn't breach anything did I? Just checking :3
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Last edited by ToRPandarine; Tue, 27th-Sep-2011 at 10:00 AM.
Reason: so confused lol
Has triggered the 2 most recent vote trains off super flakey logic which have both resulted in citizen deaths. Next_rim throughout the round has seemed to be distancing himself from mustapusta specifically - calling out his dodgy logic, and even voting for him "yesterday" (after it was clear Snod was probably going down). Why would a mafia want to call out shoddy reasoning when one of his own was not up for lynching?
Mustapusta,why say that you are voting last for once in a round as crucial as this? However, going back I see that in the first round with Bugalugs was lynched, me, you and Panda did not vote for Bugalugs, which makes us all suspicious. But Deshface did also not vote for Bugalugs, so how can we assume that he is not the last member of Rossellini? I believe that Skrawl is citi but should not be left unthought of.
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Perhaps it'd be wise to refrain from posting anything remotely game-related once you're dead.
I have a feeling the warning Benji gave was not only meant for pikk0n but everyone else dead.
All Pikk0ns posts from this point on until 48 hours have passed will be deleted.
I warned you, you kept analyzing the game anyway, next time you will receive a ban for a game.
General Warning:
If you're dead and you want to post, make it small things like 'Oh I didn't expect X to happen' or 'Well played Y Person'. If you're analyzing the game in any way, you are misunderstanding what it means to be dead. If you're writing more than a sentence, you're doing it wrong.
Well it has come to my attention that the trigger's now on me. Let me do some defending and maybe you guys would be able to understand.
i am infact The Professional
What i have done is simply trigger enough results so i can find my silly little targets. After which all i had to do was kill people off. I'm already a winner, and perhaps voting me off seems like a good choice, But as you know, Both mafia families AND the town needs my vote to win. I am a wild card, i can help anyone, or sabotage anyone. This was also as planned when i said i would vote last.
*HINT* Of course another simple way to expose yourself is to bandwagon at the last moment. since that guarantees your survival.
Why would the professional even bother defending themselves? They have already won. Claiming you are the professional and figuring that would be some sort of defence is typical of the weird logic you have already displayed..
@pikkon
I guess the fact that you are arguing at all and there is discussion within the thread about what dead people can and can't say during one of the last day phases shows that you have totally missed the point..
Why would the professional even bother defending themselves? They have already won. Claiming you are the professional and figuring that would be some sort of defence is typical of the weird logic you have already displayed..
@pikkon
I guess the fact that you are arguing at all and there is discussion within the thread about what dead people can and can't say during one of the last day phases shows that you have totally missed the point..
because if i claim citizen, no one will believe me either way, nor will my argument be heard. makes sense right? no wait i'm not supposed to make sense.
@pikk0n
I think the main idea is that the dead aren't supposed to post at all after they're dead. Benji is already giving leeway by allowing 'non-gamerelated' posts.
Fact is this, you're dead and you were posting information that is game related. Wether its pointing out who you think is who, or even being subtle and evaluating roles, its simply against the rules.
Sure, your post might have not been as game related as your previous ones, I saw you previously making VERY game related posts and I let it slide, but you continued and I had to warn you. I don't have the time to read and evaluate every post you make, and if you want to discuss some roles, the time for that is in the downtime between games.
I am VERY lenient. to quote the rules on the first post:
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2. If you are killed, you are no longer a part of the game and cannot post in this thread. Posting in this thread will result in your post being deleted. If you continue to post you may be banned.
I let people that are dead post because there is no harm in it most of the time, but sometimes I am required to step in. I have let you post alot of stuff in this thread that is game related, and I even warned you. If i was following the rules, none of that would have happened and you would already be banned.
This is the last I want to see on this matter, this is not a discussion point. Back to the game!
while mustapusta is basically a dead man now, and claiming to be the professional is basically pointless since he's a survivor now. I'm voting ThePandarine.
Since we're all pretending to be different people I'm a Survivor.
I'm still not dead, at least not until the end of the day. BUT before that, i still can wait for void/desh to change their votes and not kill a citizen...UNLESS they are mafia
No attempt at story telling today. Sorry. Down with a fever.
Mustapusta has been killed by the Citizens. He was a Citizen.
1) Deathsfang Killed by Citizens. (Citizen) 2) SMEG.Void voted mustapusta 3) BakaInu - Killed by the Rossellini Family (Informat) 4) souljah - Killed by The Rossellini Family (Citizen) 5) EveRorschach - Killed by the Professional (Vigilante) 6) Paroxysm - Killed by The Rossellini Family (Joker)
7) Crazerk - Killed by the Tortellini Family (Citizen)
8) cruxis - Killed by Citizens. (Survivor)
9) Doctor - Killed by the Vigilante (Informat)
10) Zanderax - Killed by the Citizens (Vigilante)
11) ThePandarine voted mustapusta 12) Dtorr - Killed by the Tortellini Family (Survivor) 13) Skrawl voted mustapusta 14) Lemminks voted ThePandarine
15) Snod - Killed by the Citizens (Citizen) 16) mustapusta- Killed by Citizens. (Citizen) 17) deshface voted mustapusta 18) pikk0n - Killed by the Tortellini Family (Arsonist)
19) next_rim - Killed by the Tortellini Family (Rossellini Family)
20) nobunaga - Killed by The Rossellini Family (Tortellini Family)
21) LennX - Killed by the Vigilante (Doctor)
22) Bugalugs -Killed by Citizens (Rossellini Family)
4 votes to mustapusta.
1 vote to ThePandarine
It is now Nighttime. Please PM your kills to xGKingBenji. Nighttime ends in 24 hours or after all PMs are in.
These are the roles left in the game.
1 Tortellini
1 Rosellini
1 Professional
2 Citizens
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The Rossellini Family have killed deshface. He is a Citizen.
The Tortellini Family have killed ThePandarine. He is a Citizen.
Benji has killed Lemminks. He is the Professional. (Lemminks was asked to be killed as he is going to Cambodia for holiday. This is within the rules outlined in the first post and he still wins the game.)
1) Deathsfang Killed by Citizens. (Citizen) 2) SMEG.Void 3) BakaInu - Killed by the Rossellini Family (Informat) 4) souljah - Killed by The Rossellini Family (Citizen) 5) EveRorschach - Killed by the Professional (Vigilante) 6) Paroxysm - Killed by The Rossellini Family (Joker)
7) Crazerk - Killed by the Tortellini Family (Citizen)
8) cruxis - Killed by Citizens. (Survivor)
9) Doctor - Killed by the Vigilante (Informat)
10) Zanderax - Killed by the Citizens (Vigilante)
11) ThePandarine - Killed by the Tortellini Family (Citizen) 12) Dtorr - Killed by the Tortellini Family (Survivor) 13) Skrawl 14) Lemminks - Killed by Benji (Professional) ***WINNER*** 15) Snod - Killed by the Citizens (Citizen) 16) mustapusta- Killed by Citizens. (Citizen) 17) deshface - Killed by The Rossellini Family (Citizen) 18) pikk0n - Killed by the Tortellini Family (Arsonist)
19) next_rim - Killed by the Tortellini Family (Rossellini Family)
20) nobunaga - Killed by The Rossellini Family (Tortellini Family)
21) LennX - Killed by the Vigilante (Doctor)
22) Bugalugs -Killed by Citizens (Rossellini Family)
It is now Daytime, players have 48 hours to submit their daytime votes.
Due to 2 players remaining, provided both players vote the result will be settled by a coin flip as per the rules.
1) Both vote - coin flip to break tie.
2) SMEG.Void votes, Skrawl doesn't in 48 hours. SMEG.Void is last man standing.
3) Skrawl votes, SMEG.Void doesn't in 48 hours. Skrawl is last man standing.
4) Neither vote within 48 hours. They both shoot each other at night. They both die. Lemminks wins.
I thought night-time activities were just successful now that the doctor is dead. That's slightly disappointing. I would have loved to have result 4 happen.
Also, can the dead people start speculating on who is which Mafia family? Apart from next_rim, nobunaga and myself of course.
Rofl so the person I was random voting the whole time is in fact a mafia! Smegvoid! :@
Anyway, isn't this rule rather silly, of having one more day phase just to check for activity :S
Since it's already technically a draw, I don't see why the coin flip isn't just done immediately.
Vote Skrawl
Not that my choice is really a surprise :P
Has Skrawl played Mafia Wars before? If he has, seeing that it is only my first time playing then you can just give it to him, as he has gone through more times than me. It's not like I won't get a second chance eventually ^-^.
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Reason: Forgot to post bottom sentences.
Btw, void has been sick for the most part of the game, and since bugalugs got lynched round 1, I've lead the family to almost flawless finale. So sad it's up to the coinflip now, no control over situation whatsoever.
We hit Dtorr on the "no kill" night, so it was obvious he was survivor. Was disappointed to see skrawl kill him later. I've narrowed down skrawl from timings of votes. However, was primarily suspecting mustapusta due to his inconsistent defense. I was going to kill mustapusta at night, but then saw people aggro at him for being vocal and stupid, so I figured he'd get lynched within next 1-2 rounds anyway. Which left skrawl the only suspect.
We needed a Tortellini kill at night to have better chances of winning (another dead citizen), but I didn't expect myself to die. At the moment, I wasn't on radar for being mafia, and got labeled to be professional by musta. I assumed mafia would stick with that (because proffesional would survive a night attack), but meh. Should've claimed posted more hints on being professional on same day.
If I wasn't killed that night, void and I would've prolly gone for you, skrawl.
I gots outplayed like a noobzor, which is unacceptable for a season sc2sea mafia veteran.
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Btw, void has been sick for the most part of the game, and since bugalugs got lynched round 1, I've lead the family to almost flawless finale.
Thankyou very much for that by the way, I am still not great but able to use a computer for a normal amount of time now ^-^ Very very well done, You deserve this as much as me/more than me ^-^
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too bad my "WILD MUSTAPUSTA USES CONFUSION. MAFIA FAMILY IS CONFUSED, MAFIA FAMILY HITS ITSELF IN CONFUSION" tatics didn't work.
skrawl always votes so late, too hard to guess it was him from my perspective.
Yea voting late and saying little gives little room to work with.
Another strategy I'm wondering why hasn't been used is feigning inactivity when ure Mafia.
Since you only get mod-killed if u miss 2 votes in a row, u miss every other vote to minimize vote trend analysis on u and make u seem like ure not v involved in the game n stay under the radar
Ofc it wouldn't work for me cos I'm gonna have a target on my back eventually regardless of what I do, and if anyone is thinking of using it in the future.. EXPOSED.
Another strategy I'm wondering why hasn't been used is feigning inactivity when ure Mafia.
First, it's not fun. The whole point of the game is to be involved and have fun along. If you want to replenish your winning desire cuz you suck on ladder, mafia isn't for you. Second, it's not exactly fair. If you are inactive for whatever reason, you are not respecting your teammates' or opposing players' involvement into the game, and basically say "I don't give a ****". Which isn't a right attitude in any form of team and social game.
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Upgrade : Give roaches invulnerability to nukes, as their namesake on Earth have.
You know in retrospect it doesn't really matter if I had asked Benji to kill me or not, considering that the game would have been over before I was killed from inactivity (if they lynched me this would have happened, otherwise I would have survived the night and the one of the other mafia would have won).
Could have at least made this a little bit more interesting so sorry guys T_T, didn't know I would have internet since I'm not in a hotel and the place where I'm staying doesn't have any.
It seems that you've barely understood the strategy or its manifestations before launching into your little tirade against it. Allow me to elaborate.
Firstly, this strategy came to mind after noting how every round, certain players inexplicably have to miss votes (because of RL events, etc), and as a result they get to dodge the bullet because of the flawed logic that inactive = not mafia when the mafia is shown to be actively killing at night
(this actually did occur in a previous round)
Next, feigning inactivity does not necessarily mean a lower involvement in the game - you may even be posting much more than others! You are only missing alternate votes, thus this could mean that you ARE actively discussing on rounds which you are voting (which is already more than what a majority of players currently do), but conveniently disappear on certain rounds (citing 'real life events' )
Third, to be clear what the benefits of this strategy is - It reduces the chance of you being targeted by vote trend analysis, which you have to admit is a main tool of analysis in this game.
Of course, if everyone starts doing it, it's going to cheapen the game and reduce the overall enjoyment of everyone, so some rule could be implemented to prevent this - e.g. Redefine inactivity from just 'missing 2 consecutive votes' to 'missing 2 consecutive votes AND/OR missing a total of 3 votes in the entire game'.
Finally, it must be clear that I do not endorse inactivity, which should be evident in my personal playstyle. It's obvious that the best way to win is to stay under the radar for a good portion of the game, and only start throwing out significant arguments/accusations/defences towards the latter part of the game (which is the case for all those who lasted till the end and won in prev rounds, or at least for those that I bothered staying to observe)
However, I still stake my 'life' by being involved from the beginning, as I am here to have fun and I enjoy contributing to such discussions.
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and as a result they get to dodge the bullet because of the flawed logic that inactive = not mafia
More like "don't talk = nothing to cling to".
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feigning inactivity does not necessarily mean a lower involvement in the game - you may even be posting much more than others! You are only missing alternate votes
But nobody does that. Genuine busy people, who don't vote, don't talk either.
Talking is what draws attention much more than any voting patterns. If you want to stay under the radar, just don't talk. Not voting, but still actively talking is contradictory to the whole under the radar notion. Besides, there will still be other players who will throw accusations around, primarily based on previous game history and "gut feeling". And not talking = little to no suspicion. Look at SMEG.Void this round, he just voted and never talked. Never drew suspicion. Same for Skrawl.
I'm not saying your strategy won't work, it probably will, primarily because it's a forum game, and there are people who don't care about a forum game. I'm saying that there are better strategies out there, that don't involve behavior that undermines other active player's experience.
If you were at a party with friends, you wouldn't have an option to just wander off and not vote. Precisely because mafia is a social game, and revolves around an assumption that people will vote and give explanation, and where no explanation is and explanation in itself. Not voting is in essence breaking the fundamental assumed rule of the game. It's like playing Monopoly, and refusing to make a move because you know you will end up bankrupt no matter what dice combination you get.
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Upgrade : Give roaches invulnerability to nukes, as their namesake on Earth have.
and as a result they get to dodge the bullet because of the flawed logic that inactive = not mafia
More like "don't talk = nothing to cling to".
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feigning inactivity does not necessarily mean a lower involvement in the game - you may even be posting much more than others! You are only missing alternate votes
But nobody does that. Genuine busy people, who don't vote, don't talk either.
Talking is what draws attention much more than any voting patterns. If you want to stay under the radar, just don't talk. Not voting, but still actively talking is contradictory to the whole under the radar notion. Besides, there will still be other players who will throw accusations around, primarily based on previous game history and "gut feeling". And not talking = little to no suspicion. Look at SMEG.Void this round, he just voted and never talked. Never drew suspicion. Same for Skrawl.
I'm not saying your strategy won't work, it probably will, primarily because it's a forum game, and there are people who don't care about a forum game. I'm saying that there are better strategies out there, that don't involve behavior that undermines other active player's experience.
If you were at a party with friends, you wouldn't have an option to just wander off and not vote. Precisely because mafia is a social game, and revolves around an assumption that people will vote and give explanation, and where no explanation is and explanation in itself. Not voting is in essence breaking the fundamental assumed rule of the game. It's like playing Monopoly, and refusing to make a move because you know you will end up bankrupt no matter what dice combination you get.
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Upgrade : Give roaches invulnerability to nukes, as their namesake on Earth have.
bumping this just so this isnt forgotten. I would do the coinflip but this decides the winner and will require the use of a special coin which only Benji has.
SMEG.Void has been killed by the Citizens. He was a member of the Rossellini Family.
1) Deathsfang Killed by Citizens. (Citizen) 2) SMEG.Void -Killed by Citizens (Rossellini Family) 3) BakaInu - Killed by the Rossellini Family (Informat) 4) souljah - Killed by The Rossellini Family (Citizen) 5) EveRorschach - Killed by the Professional (Vigilante) 6) Paroxysm - Killed by The Rossellini Family (Joker)
7) Crazerk - Killed by the Tortellini Family (Citizen)
8) cruxis - Killed by Citizens. (Survivor)
9) Doctor - Killed by the Vigilante (Informat)
10) Zanderax - Killed by the Citizens (Vigilante)
11) ThePandarine - Killed by the Tortellini Family (Citizen) 12) Dtorr - Killed by the Tortellini Family (Survivor) 13) Skrawl - (Tortellini Family) ***WINNER*** 14) Lemminks - Killed by Benji (Professional) ***WINNER*** 15) Snod - Killed by the Citizens (Citizen) 16) mustapusta- Killed by Citizens. (Citizen) 17) deshface - Killed by The Rossellini Family (Citizen) 18) pikk0n - Killed by the Tortellini Family (Arsonist)
19) next_rim - Killed by the Tortellini Family (Rossellini Family)
20) nobunaga - Killed by The Rossellini Family (Tortellini Family)
21) LennX - Killed by the Vigilante (Doctor)
22) Bugalugs -Killed by Citizens (Rossellini Family)
Congrats to Skrawl and Lemminks on winning round 5!
As you can tell by my lack of activity, even with nard helping my ability to run this game is severely diminished due to commitments elsewhere. If you guys want a round 6, someone else will need to run it, however I do NOT want this game being ruined by poor role choices, which is why I will provide the number of each role for the next game, but really cannot run it in any other way.
If someone wants to run the game, PM me and I'll figure something out.
I'm just happy to be part of this game in any capacity. Especially since
I already had the opportunity of winning... Just thought I'd give back by assisting to run it
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