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**nirvAnA** · Sat, 13th-Aug-2011, 1:29 AM

sc2sea Race Wars 2011!

So I was clearing my sc2sea inbox today (2,500 msgs omg) and found this interesting message from EdgE way back in december "Hey Nirvana, i had an idea for an Xmas racewars for SC2SEA. It could be either involving the whole community, or just top players that could be chosen and or voted by people, and just broadcast it as a fun showmatch between each races. I was thinking all kill format as well."

I was really busy back then, and since sc2sea's 1 year anniversary is approaching soon next month, I thought why not hold it now! Its basically gonna be 6 players per team (4 players 2 subs), with players decided solely on invitation by ME! It will just be a fun event finishing in one day and celebrating 1 year of awesomeness that has been sc2sea.

These are the players I have shortlisted so far, and could change based on player's availability or form.

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aLtShortizz · Sat, 13th-Aug-2011, 2:03 AM

I was about to ask if i could play when i saw a ton of good zergs on that list.

Totally approve your short list.

pRoTimber · Sat, 13th-Aug-2011, 2:25 AM

soooo racist

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nirvAnA:

haha not really! I wanted to include random so i love all races equally.

**iM tgun** · Sat, 13th-Aug-2011, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Shortizz

I was about to ask if i could play when i saw a ton of good zergs on that list.

Totally approve your short list.

Vouching for Shortizz to be shortlisted.

soulmanfOu · Sat, 13th-Aug-2011, 8:49 AM

oh race war

NvJazBas · Sat, 13th-Aug-2011, 10:37 AM

If this gets prize pool that'd be great but if not thats fine too I think. Would be just fun thing. GSTL style would be great but many players will miss out though..

deL · Sat, 13th-Aug-2011, 11:19 AM

I don't think it should have a prizepool, race wars have always been about having some fun and playing for the pride of your in-game race!

I say include Random!

Shortlist looks good but we should include more players per team. If we do it over 2-3 days we could have 4 players play day 1 all-kill, then another 4 on day 2, etc. so a lot of people get to play. It's too hard to narrow down those lists!

TAminimat · Sat, 13th-Aug-2011, 11:20 AM

Sounds like a sweet idea, should do a BSG one too

^.^

**TAEdgE** · Sat, 13th-Aug-2011, 11:56 AM

woo go edge

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Primex · Sat, 13th-Aug-2011, 1:20 PM

This sounds like a really fun thing to watch, and maybe even have one for the lower leagues too. (BSG)

Also maybe yCHSPR(ST_KingKong) should be added too, unless I'm blind and didn't see it.

Eldrid · Sat, 13th-Aug-2011, 5:03 PM

this would be cool!

It should be all kill format, GSTL Style. And i definatly think there should be a random team! (I was thinking this and then you asked if you should have it as I read everything - fantastic idea!)

gogo ^^

aLtShortizz · Sat, 13th-Aug-2011, 6:28 PM

Prize pool would be hard since there are so many players on each team.

**nGenLight** · Sat, 13th-Aug-2011, 6:32 PM

cool, love having my comment deleted

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nirvAnA:

chill yo nothing was deleted it probably didnt even go through coz of lag/browser/watever

syfMiley · Sat, 13th-Aug-2011, 6:47 PM

No mirror matchups what up?

**JacziE** · Sat, 13th-Aug-2011, 9:00 PM

It was the good old days, hey. Haha... I always wanted to do a race war! Can't wait for this!

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nirvAnA:

k ty for voluntering. jaczie shall cast sc2sea race wars with a partner of her choice!

Doctor · Sat, 13th-Aug-2011, 11:32 PM

OMG OMG !! this is a very good idea !! having the player playing each other by bringing the best out from the race they chose and proud of !! GO RACEWARS !!

**JacziE** · Sun, 14th-Aug-2011, 7:38 AM

Can I choose my favorite players, hohoho!

**nGenLight** · Sun, 14th-Aug-2011, 5:18 PM

I saw my comment go through because it was just above Shortizz. I understand it wasn't contributive but it was absolutely harmless - just a lame joke geez. Give me an infraction or something if it breaks a rule, or ask me to take it off or something, but please don't delete my post.

Anyway back on topic. I doubt there is the possibility to get a large enough prize pool to divide between 10+ players.

**nirvAnA** · Sun, 14th-Aug-2011, 8:43 PM

Light the way the site works is whenever a post deleted, it never gets removed from the database. The post becomes hidden from the public but it is still clearly visible to all mods/admins who have the option to restore the post, view it, see the deletion reason etc. I said that it was probably a browser problem cause we can't see such a deletion notice above shortizz's post so it never registered on the site in the first place.

As for the race wars - Yea based on the comments it looks like random will be included as well as more players! It will just be a fun event were the prize is helping determine if your race is the best on SEA! As we would like as many players to participate as possible, the format could be 5-7 players per race, each match a best of 3. Only the highlight match of each round will be cast and the rest will be played concurrently. All replays will be provided after the event.

Set 1: PvZ
Set 2: PvT
Set 3: PvR
Set 4: ZvT
Set 5: ZvR

The whole event will conclude in around 3 hours, which is less than how long our COs usually run.

Would that be better than a GSTL format which has a max of 4 players? Let me know what you think. Included a poll.

TAriiChard · Mon, 15th-Aug-2011, 12:32 PM

Just a suggestion. How about making this event a little longer by choosing 6 captains (2 from each race) with those captains taking turns picking players for their team.

Maybe 8 players per team with a minimum of 2 per race and maximum of 3 per race. Eg. 2 Zergs 3 Terrans and 3 Protoss. 8 players per team to give the captains more choices on who to use not to mention if players don't turn up. GSTL format of course with 5 players from each team playing.

**Maynarde** · Mon, 15th-Aug-2011, 2:48 PM

The zerg team looks SOOOOooooooooo good lol ^^

Really looking forward to this event, definitely think as many players should play as possible as there are so many match ups there that I want to watch

**Nemo** · Wed, 17th-Aug-2011, 7:03 AM

Such a good idea, I will definitely follow that if available !

For the format I would not prefer the GSTL system where a single star could overcome a lot of opponents. That's underlining the star more than the race itself.

A more classic frontal battle with 8 1c1 for example would fit more to the spirit of this clash IMO. For the fun one 2c2 or 4c4 could be made. It's probably not balanced, but as it's a fun tournament and only to sort draws (9th game), it could be entertaining.

We have a system in team 40k battles where you have the 2 captains of team A and B that select alternatively the players pairings :

Roll a dice to know if team A or B will begin selecting player. Let's say A will go first.
Each captain select secretly a member of the team that will be the secret champion
Captain A select his first defender
Captain B select one of his still available players to attack the first defender
Captain A (or the defender he chose), chose a map still available in the map pool
Captain B select his first defender
Captain A select one of his still available players to attack the first defender of B
Captain B (or the defender he chose), chose a map still available in the map pool
Proceed like that for the 6 remaining players of each team (beginning again by captain A)
At last the 2 champions are revealed and play on the last map of the Map pool

This is the system used For ETC40K and ETCFantasy (more or less world championship yearly tournament). It is the most balanced pairing system that was found after different try.

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