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Unread Tue, 22nd-Feb-2011, 1:26 AM BnetId: TAScarecrow.531  Race: Clan: TA  Location: Sydney  Total Posts Made: 99 # 1
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But I digress. I think I already pointed out that she lacks professionalism, game knowledge and game sense. Her redundant rambling was an attempt to cover for her lack of knowledge and I think that has got to stop. I don't know if I'm making an erroneous analogy here but I can't help but to see parallels between the redundancies in Kelly's casting and the amount of evangelizing praise our politicians have been heaping upon our ridiculous Budget 2011.

It became painfully clear to be that she was trying to compensate for her lack of analysis of what was going on in the game, and so was it clear to me that our budget was a crock of horse manure which our politicians tried to neutralize the stink with their most puissant of praises.
Please remove the stick from your ass and drop the pretentious prose. It has to be tough living with such high standards but there's no need to vent on someone doing their best at something they love. Maybe try dropping the hate and do something productive with that intellect of yours

Basically, Kelly's casting doesn't deserve this sort of blanket criticism and to liken it to a crock of shit is just retarded.
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Unread Tue, 22nd-Feb-2011, 5:41 AM BnetId: NEWater 870  Race: Location: Singapore  Total Posts Made: 7 # 2
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Please remove the stick from your ass and drop the pretentious prose. It has to be tough living with such high standards but there's no need to vent on someone doing their best at something they love. Maybe try dropping the hate and do something productive with that intellect of yours

Basically, Kelly's casting doesn't deserve this sort of blanket criticism and to liken it to a crock of shit is just retarded.
*shrugs* When I worked for Colosseum, it became my business to know of all aspects of gaming in the region, so I won't admit that I know everything. While I'm now focused on college and writing for The Online Citizen I still care enough about gaming when I see a train wreck waiting to happen, or to check on how my mates in Bf.Nut are faring.

But honestly, gaming in SG has barely developed past its most basic of stages and has been hampered by nonsense like Rapture Gaming incompetence in organizing WCG and the proliferation of F2P games. This latest development simply isn't the correct step forward.
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Unread Tue, 22nd-Feb-2011, 2:08 AM BnetId: Makra.969  Race: Clan: HT  Location: Sydney  Total Posts Made: 200 # 3
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<== is a total Dune nerd and has read all the books.

But I digress. I think I already pointed out that she lacks professionalism, game knowledge and game sense. Her redundant rambling was an attempt to cover for her lack of knowledge and I think that has got to stop. I don't know if I'm making an erroneous analogy here but I can't help but to see parallels between the redundancies in Kelly's casting and the amount of evangelizing praise our politicians have been heaping upon our ridiculous Budget 2011.

It became painfully clear to be that she was trying to compensate for her lack of analysis of what was going on in the game, and so was it clear to me that our budget was a crock of horse manure which our politicians tried to neutralize the stink with their most puissant of praises.
Dude, you're tripping over your words in an attempt to sound intellectual. Just say what you want to say straight up, and at least you won't seem like an elitist arsehole.
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Unread Tue, 22nd-Feb-2011, 5:45 AM BnetId: NEWater 870  Race: Location: Singapore  Total Posts Made: 7 # 4
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Dude, you're tripping over your words in an attempt to sound intellectual. Just say what you want to say straight up, and at least you won't seem like an elitist arsehole.
Why, thank you. I'm no stranger to being labelled an elitist from the way I speak and my usage of vocabulary, but mainly the "elitist" word pops up right away the moment people discover the sort of school I came from.

But really, excuse me for caring about gaming in Singapore. Perhaps I ought to join the men in white and have an easier life smiling and nodding while everyone enjoys their backslapping and lovebombing.
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Unread Tue, 22nd-Feb-2011, 11:04 AM BnetId: Makra.969  Race: Clan: HT  Location: Sydney  Total Posts Made: 200 # 5
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Why, thank you. I'm no stranger to being labelled an elitist from the way I speak and my usage of vocabulary, but mainly the "elitist" word pops up right away the moment people discover the sort of school I came from.

But really, excuse me for caring about gaming in Singapore. Perhaps I ought to join the men in white and have an easier life smiling and nodding while everyone enjoys their backslapping and lovebombing.
Sure, you may be 'using vocabulary', but you're not using it well. And go ahead, draw completely random points from what I said. Because I clearly accosted you for caring about gaming in Singapore.
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Sure, you may be 'using vocabulary', but you're not using it well. And go ahead, draw completely random points from what I said. Because I clearly accosted you for caring about gaming in Singapore.
this is silly, he used perfectly appropprate vocabulary. I dont see how someone using vocabulary which the lowest common denominator of people dont grasp doesnt mean he should stop using it, it means other people should raise their knowledge.
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Unread Mon, 21st-Feb-2011, 10:50 PM BnetId: iRLdKiWi.706  Race: Clan: iRL  Location: Singapore  Total Posts Made: 100 # 7
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Posted by DarthNoko in my thread on bnet forums.

During game 2:

Tasteless: Artosis would always say if you get ahead, get more ahead!

...moments later

Tasteless: If you get ahead...
Kelly: you get more head! (thats how i heard it anyway)

LOL

but yeah she was a little jittery at first but she did well.
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Today's casting was fine considering it was day one, but there's still a lot of room for improvement. At least you can see that she's put in effort to improve her casting abilities. Some things just can't be changed after a day (e.g. pronunciation of certain words) so it's all okay.
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Unread Mon, 21st-Feb-2011, 11:52 PM BnetId: iRLdKiWi.706  Race: Clan: iRL  Location: Singapore  Total Posts Made: 100 # 13
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MUCH better than i expected seriously, thank goodness. Its very good that SEA/SG now has a significantly larger slice of the e-sports contribution pie. If Kelly can keep this up i believe they wont need to recruit more Code A casters ^^
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Kelly did better than people expected her to :> Saying stuff like racecars is something people dislike, but that's her casting style. If people hate it, we just gotta let that fly. Sometimes I don't like Tasteless nasally voice but that's me.

Anyway, as for the rest, such as jokes/memes and stuff, as long as it's not offensive, it's fine. We spawned graken, grackets, gorillas and stuff. If people makes fun of the things she pronounce, it's funny -- laugh at it, but don't attack her with it. Even Tasteless said cweep. :>

I laugh about it a lot too, but come on guys... raging puts +10 years on your face, don't do it over StarCraft.
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Thanks GOM....now I have all the code A matches muted because I can't listen to this. Neither can my friends that used to come watch GSL with me on my big screen. I doubt GOM's sponsors want the stream to be muted but o'well. I have nothing against Kelly, I just want someone that talks clearly and maybe being a better player then I am instead of a worse player would be a bonus.
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Unread Tue, 22nd-Feb-2011, 6:53 AM BnetId: Froadac.469  Race: Location: Somewhere  Total Posts Made: 1 # 20
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OK. I admit it. First post. And I'm not from SEA. And I made this account just to post about this. (although it's quite the cool community now that I looked around)

Everyone has flaws. In fact Artosis himself made a "critique my commentary" thread on teamliquid. People talked about what he and tasteless needed to do more, artosis said they were working on it, admitted fault, etc etc...

Many excellent commentators applied for the position, and in my opinion, kellyMilkies was not the person for the job. Call it my stupid american bias or whatnot, but I find the voice straining (not impossible) to understand, and I find the level of analysis and style of commentary to be off. Moletrap ( youtube.com/moletrapsc2 ) whom I hold in high esteem applied, and did not get the position.

But I was more than willing to let her take a shot at the position. If she takes constructive criticism into account and seems like she's making an effort to improve, that's fine. If she's professional about it ( www.fuckslits.tumblr.com and the username kellyMILKIES?) and acknowledges that there are many valid concerns about her, I'm quite happy to let her work at it.

But what we've seen here is kellymilkies attempt to not only suppress criticism, but also attack those who do not care for her style. We've seen her tell people here to stop, and that they are acting like thye ahve just been six pooled.

Although I at this point do not want kellymilkies in the position she holds, I do have advice for her: take advice. Admit you aren't perfect. Don't act like somebody stuck up who merely insults anyone so depraved as to not care for her.

Unfortunately I've just been 6 pooled by imba zerg, so maybe it'll sound angry.

Seeing as nobody has really given advice yet...

1) Slow down a bit
2) Become a bit more familiar with unit names. Try to ladder some if you have the time. With tasteless/artosis yous houldn't be lacking for strategy advice. In any case, just get a better handle on the game.
3) Your professionalism comes off as poor. A few less cute jokes ><
4) Maybe just try and immerse yourself in british or american culture some. Hopefully can get rid of the much hated accent
5) Don't say haters gonna hate. ><
6) don't talk over tasteless with umm, err, I see, etc. I know from my limited casting experience it's easy to do, but definitely try and avoid it.
7) don't act quite as entitled.

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