[TheGentleman]

Originally Posted by TheGentleman

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I don't know why you think he'd still be welcome.

I fixed my post prior to this comment so it might look a little out of place. I'm an optimist I can't help but try and see the good in people.

[AsGNabi]

Originally Posted by xGKingLight

AsGNabi: N YOU ARE still defending the guy that literally lied to your face and had you defend him this whole time? YOU, not just anyone, his better half, his significant other. WTF?

I don't really mean it when I tell someone to go die in a fire. But out of respect for you, go die in a fire Chobo.

He told me a little white lie, about a game. Big deal. If I was a real ***** I would make a fuss about it, but to be honest I don't really care. I never had to defend him, in fact I was told to stay out of it because things would become too personal. Of course I'm going to stand up for him because (duh) he's my partner, and I know what he has accomplished fairly. At the same time there is no excuse for his wrong doing and him coming clean should not effect any less on the severity of his punishment.

Edit: Lol Revenant. Don't even. ^_^

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	x5.Revenant:	Your faithfulness to such an unethical person baffles me.
	Dox:	hey cmon this post is legit, don't hate
	iM tgun:	Are you faithful to him? Yes. Is it smart to be this faithful without realising what happened? Nope.
	mGGAequitas:	how do you know what he has accomplished fairly he lied to your face once...
	ROOTPetraeus:	no
	Snx.FigJig:	why the hate? you expect her to leave chobo or something because of this? pathetic
	Bash:
	deL:	dump his ass

[NvJazBas]

Originally Posted by AsGNabi

He told me a little white lie, about a game. Big deal. If I was a real bitch I would make a fuss about it, but to be honest I don't really care. I never had to defend him, in fact I was told to stay out of it because things would become too personal. Of course I'm going to stand up for him because (duh) he's my partner, and I know what he has accomplished fairly. At the same time there is no excuse for his wrong doing and him coming clean should not effect any less on the severity of his punishment.

Stop using those 2 words. "Coming clean"

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AsGNabi:

Zzzzzzzz

[TAScaramanga]

"The findings will also be posted on TL and Reddit where the two parties involved will be publicly shamed."
Unfortunately I don't think TL nor Reddit will really care about a smurf on SEA

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	Peleus:	You underestimate the lynch mob
	x5.Revenant:	I think they will care about TSL_Hyun and vVvseohyeon though.
	Bash:	wait TLSHyun was in this?

[Dox]

Originally Posted by nirvAnA

Chobo will be punished severely, will not receive any prize money for his MC win and be stripped of all titles. Will discuss with the other admins as well how to proceed best from here. I imagine jaz will post the summarized findings on PlayXP and tgun will contact vVv and playadmin. The findings will also be posted on TL and Reddit where the two parties involved will be publicly shamed.

I reckon with all maphackers/smurfs/cheaters of any capacity, banning them from online tournaments is more than sufficient. I'd never ban them from a LAN event where they can irrefutably prove their skills.

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breadfan:

I like this thinking, but I'd respect a tournament admin decision to enforce the ban at their lan too

[UHF]

So how much did Seo actually play?

Chobo knocked mOOnGLaDe out of Community Open #58 in the top 8. Which (IIRC) if mOOnGLaDe had won against Chobo, would have qualified for the SEASL Grand Finals. (i think?). Chobo also qualified and played in the SEASL grand finals.

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nirvAnA:

pretty sure it was all seo.

[iM MaFia]

pretty sure seo played all games in every tournament, the actual chobo wouldnt be able to beat anyone

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nGenLight:

have some rep for some serious conviction, u guys got him!

[TAEdgE]

Originally Posted by UHF

So how much did Seo actually play?

Chobo knocked mOOnGLaDe out of Community Open #58 in the top 8. Which (IIRC) if mOOnGLaDe had won against Chobo, would have qualified for the SEASL Grand Finals. (i think?). Chobo also qualified and played in the SEASL grand finals.

I remember in the SEASL qualifier where I lost to qxc in the semis, 'CHoBo' made the other semi vs axslav. Chobo beat SEA players, including Ninja on the way.

[TASlowHands]

Originally Posted by AsGNabi

He told me a little white lie, about a game. Big deal. If I was a real ***** I would make a fuss about it, but to be honest I don't really care. I never had to defend him, in fact I was told to stay out of it because things would become too personal. Of course I'm going to stand up for him because (duh) he's my partner, and I know what he has accomplished fairly. At the same time there is no excuse for his wrong doing and him coming clean should not effect any less on the severity of his punishment.

Edit: Lol Revenant. Don't even. ^_^

Nice of you to stand up for your partner, but this says a lot about his character

Big deal, this is a game? Maybe to you and your BF, but to many in this community it's a passion. Chobo and his friend basically stole money from this community through deceitful means. That says a lot about his character to me.

Since this is all just a game to him im sure he wont miss competitive starcraft 2, because to many of us it isnt just a game, but that selfish oaf of a man probably never considered that.

[AsGNabi]

Originally Posted by TASlowHands

Nice of you to stand up for your partner, but this says a lot about his character

Big deal, this is a game? Maybe to you and your BF, but to many in this community it's a passion. Chobo and his friend basically stole money from this community through deceitful means. That says a lot about his character to me.

Since this is all just a game to him im sure he wont miss competitive starcraft 2, because to many of us it isnt just a game, but that selfish oaf of a man probably never considered that.

I understand that. What I was trying to portray is that it's just a game to me, not to you guys or to him. I've got more important things to worry about like two jobs and uni.

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	neKo:	cool story
	Cyanide:	I think it's best you leave things as it is before things get out of hand again

[NvRossi]

Originally Posted by AsGCHoBo

Okay so what happened?
My girlfriend thought I was playing master cup while really I was playing on a spare account on NA. So while watching the stream, little did she know I was not actually playing on those particular games. I will rectify this with her as she was misled.

How did I get away with the smurfing test from Nirvana?
I got Seo to do this. Yes it was wrong, and I’m willing to admit to that. If I want to come clean, I need to leave no ambiguity.

Why I refused to post recent games?
I had different hotkey setup to seo and did not want to reveal this. Obviously, because did not want to show inconsistency of hotkeys

Hacked?
No. Definitely not. So all the analysis here and there was kind of well.. pointless. Sorry to have your time wasted.

Game Farming?
Yes. However I did not use any hack/bot program. I did this manually. The fact other people used bots just made it really easy for people not using the program to accumulate wins much faster.

Maintaining my account..
I had a few friends along my gaming which played on my account to help my bonus pool while my real life commitments were overwhelming.
However, they did not ladder me to achieve GM, I did this in the past myself.

So to conclude..
I am sorry to everyone who spent time trying to disprove a hacker, when really that wasn’t the issue at all. It was something completely different.
To all my clan who defended me including my girlfriend, I have unfortunately misled you all in the sense of winning masters cup as this was clearly done by seo. I just want to take a moment to apologize for this.


I am glad I can finally reveal the truth as this has been far to overwhelming to try and cover for the time which it has blown out to. All I can say is that I am sorry and took my time to ensure everything I thought was crucial has been covered and is true.

In the end all im going to say to you is that you're a ******* douchebag.

You wasted a **** load of mine and others time and we risked our reputations trying to catch you out for being the snide, demented cheater that you are. All the while you made pissweak excuses and insulted us.

Furthermore you betrayed your friends and your gf all so your tiny ego could grow and so you could pretend you were somebody. I hope you learnt your lesson, however i really doubt it as you only told the truth after you were caught out otherwise; i doubt we would ever have heard it.

**** you.

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	mGGAequitas:	very nicely put
	iM tgun:
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	Shieldz:
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	PiG:	detective rossi is da man
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[aLtNinja]

Yeah, SeohYeon double bunker walled me out of SEASL qualifier that i feel i could have qualified for otherwise. :/

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	ToR.Arnor:	does it make you feel better knowing that? :)
	inFeZa:	thats just op terran T_T

[TABiggun]

Originally Posted by AsGNabi

He told me a little white lie, about a game. Big deal. If I was a real ***** I would make a fuss about it, but to be honest I don't really care. I never had to defend him, in fact I was told to stay out of it because things would become too personal. Of course I'm going to stand up for him because (duh) he's my partner, and I know what he has accomplished fairly. At the same time there is no excuse for his wrong doing and him coming clean should not effect any less on the severity of his punishment.

Edit: Lol Revenant. Don't even. ^_^

Don't you see how pathetic this is? He lied to us because he cared about what people thought about him in this game so it clearly isn't 'just a game' for him if he went into such a big effort to lie and make people think he is this gosu player. Pretty retarded.

Also, I hate how you simply shrug this off as "oh no big deal its just a small white lie about a game"
This is so rediculous since this 'game' is a profession for some people and a lot of us spend a hell lot of time playing. This is ESPORTS. It is our hobby and our passion. You come into our community, cheat and steal money? Then shrug it off like its nothing. Cheating is a huge offense in any sport, no matter how big or small.

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	mGGAequitas:	yes very polite
	iM MaFia:
	Kepler:	I don't approve of insults, even if you ninja edit it.
	crAzerk:	not exactly polite
	AsGGriefeR:	TA, what a ******* cess pool. Edit yourself some dignity
	syfChadMann:	Don't BM TA GriefeR -___-
	AsGNabi:	Pretty sure what he did say initially was quite rude.
	MrToast:	Got to echo Griefer on this one.
	nirvAnA:	You caused eddie to close this thread :(
	TASlowHands:	TA a cesspool? ahhaahh ******* retard
	syfMiley:	Don't start GriefeR
	Snx.FigJig:	grow up, it's their relationship not yours
	Bash:	as far as their relationship is concerned, its a little white lie, as far as chobo+sc2sea goes, its alot more. huge diff

[Kepler]

Originally Posted by AsGNabi

I understand that. What I was trying to portray is that it's just a game to me, not to you guys or to him. I've got more important things to worry about like two jobs and uni.

The fact is that there was money involved this time. I work and go to uni as well as you know, but I still think this was out of line.

[AsGNabi]

Originally Posted by TABiggun

Don't you see how pathetic this is? He lied to us because he cared about what people thought about him in this game so it clearly isn't 'just a game' for him if he went into such a big effort to lie and make people think he is this gosu player. Pretty retarded.

Also, I hate how you simply shrug this off as "oh no big deal its just a small white lie about a game"
This is so rediculous since this 'game' is a profession for some people and a lot of us spend a hell lot of time playing. This is ESPORTS. It is our hobby and our passion. You come into our community, cheat and steal money? Then shrug it off like its nothing. Cheating is a huge offense in any sport, no matter how big or small. I've been nothing but polite to people but I think I really just want to get one thing off my chest:

F U C K Y O U

Woah dude, relax. Again, I said it was nothing to me, not to you guys. You guys will deal with it as you will, and so will I.

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	neKo:	nah
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	FaDeHellfyre:	counter pointless neg-rep
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[Eddie]

Thanks to all those who worked hard to find the truth. CHoBo has been found out, and confirmed it himself. Nothing more to be discussed in this thread. CHoBo's punishment shall be determined soon..

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nirvAnA:

Boss close timing, thread was gonna get crazy. :)