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**nirvAnA** · Thu, 7th-Jun-2012, 11:24 PM

More evidence

First up, more evidence to support Rossi's post about him smurfing. Remember the log with rossi about how i noticed an enormous difference in skill between the custom games i had with him, and when i played him on ladder?

+ [This log] +

It was 6 months ago but with the help of SC2 gears i actually managed to find those 3 replays of the custom games. I felt his standard was about masters league and was really shocked it was so different from the ladder games i played against him as the chobo i played on ladder was top GM level. His custom game timings were all terrible and strange. Anyway i never considerd the possibility this chobo guy was an imaginary person so I just shrugged it off and thought he was having a bad day and never thought much of it.

The custom games with the "real" chobo, from skype. Identical to what Rossi outlined in his posts the hotkeys are VERY different from the MC games / seohyun. They are also similar to his streamed game in the Rossi OP.

http://www.sc2sea.com/replays.php?do=viewreplay&id=1285
http://www.sc2sea.com/replays.php?do=viewreplay&id=1284
http://www.sc2sea.com/replays.php?do=viewreplay&id=1283

Ladder games - One ladder game with "SEOHYUN hotkeys" the other is i guess versus another zerg who was paid to level up his account.

http://www.sc2sea.com/replays.php?do=viewreplay&id=1288
(i get disced at the end, and say asdasd to test the lag but it was over anyway)
http://www.sc2sea.com/replays.php?do=viewreplay&id=1286
(some zerg was leveling up his account, obv a sea player not kr)

Other clues which got me thinking he was smurfing

Super quiet during ladder games, like he didn't know me.
His inability to produce replays after being suspected, even from the unsaved folder. Thought it was very fishy.
Poor performances at lan
Unwillingness to join "pro teams"
A anonymous source spilling the beans saying the real chobo is actually only diamond level

All this was what got me to investigate so I brought this possibility up to Rossi, Mafia and Revenant but after the test i was so sure he couldnt be smurfing. Somehow he tricked me again cause i ended up playing hyun? lol

The "TEST"

TLDR: First time he joined channel after being told on skype - 14 seconds. Second time he joined channel, about 5 seconds. How he tricked me in the test I did is beyond me, perhaps he was sharing his screen and having a voice/chat with hyun at the same time. But I didn't give him any preparation, just asked him if he was home then told him to get on sc2 right away. So this test results bug me still, and i really wanted rossi to do a final test to catch him 100% red handed before he made the post.

+ [The Test] +

The Test Game the game with rossi obbing. I was basically playing "seohyun" and got destroyed hard
http://www.sc2sea.com/replays.php?do=viewreplay&id=1287

Also note in the game, i asked him who he lost to at the last lan. Took him 20 seconds to reply and he said "hmmm yang" at the end. Me and rossi at that time both didn't think much about it and we dropped the smurfing issue until we were provided the streaming evidence of the different hotkeys again by the same anonymous source.

Conclusion

seohyun does not hack
seohyun played for chobo in his ladder games and MC games
the real "yamama" which targa had suspected, could be the "hacker" he played in the early seasons
How chobo managed to fool his clan (wouldn't they msg him when hyun was playing?) and the whole SEA for at least the last 6 months is astonishing, but ultimately his own greed for epeen was his undoing, as he got hyun to smurf in one of the biggest SEA tournaemnts

FINAL UPDATE

There is now 100% conclusive evidence that seohyun played for Chobo in his ladder and MC games. The evidence will be made public after chobo's statement, or should he choose not to reply.

Chobo will be punished severely, will not receive any prize money for his MC win and be stripped of all titles. Will discuss with the other admins as well how to proceed best from here. I imagine jaz will post the summarized findings on PlayXP and tgun will contact vVv and playadmin. The findings will also be posted on TL and Reddit where the two parties involved will be publicly shamed.

Quick Comments

	Maynarde:
	inFeZa:	FINALLY A DECISION.
	TAEdgE:
	iMSystem:
	syfSoundwave:	Justice!
	x5.Revenant:
	Cyanide:
	Baldie:
	mOOnGLaDe:	wow! nirvana with the hammer of justice at last!
	Nemo:	Justice has been served
	Strafe:	boom! If you would add that he's not allowed to play in any tournament from now on that would be great too
	ROCCAT_Savior: