[Peleus]

Originally Posted by Sedz

Too much evidence? There is a bunch of baseless claims with absolutely no justification or logic then there's a really good claim by Mafia which also has counter arguments just as good.

There is plenty of justification and logic, and not really reasonable explanations. Several high level Terrans have said how insane the turn around is on Shak (Rossi, Iaguz etc) yet his response is he just wasn't sure. Pathing changes of units to react to incoming unseen things (lings coming to scout etc) haven't been explained. Sending token scouting units and staring at the just before they scout what you know there (SCV into the lings at the 4th in Mafia's vod) with the only explanation being perhaps there was nothing else to do is a co-incidence to many in the big picture.

Originally Posted by Sedz

Also, you're quoting things from a year ago, you cannot be seriously be using that as any kind of evidence for hacking, especially games played.

I agree that portrait farming hasn't got any real impact on it, I'm just curious as to why Chobo is calling it a bug in sc2ranks, I mean it's not like you forget playing 6000 games?

Originally Posted by Sedz

Also, this has escalated so ******* far, as soon as you get people spamming emails and interfering in personal life it just gets ******* ridiculous. I seriously hope something is being done about this.

I agree, whoever is emailing, stop it.

Edit: Seconding this as another example.....

Originally Posted by TABiggun

No evidence? Noone has even discussed my claim that he randomly looks into the main and natural on the Shakuras game at 5:30.

Why would you randomly do that? He selected all his scvs then looked into the main and made no actions, then looked over to the natural.

Edit: This is in the replay of chobo vs Mafia on shakuras plateau

[NvRossi]

Originally Posted by Sedz

Too much evidence? There is a bunch of baseless claims with absolutely no justification or logic then there's a really good claim by Mafia which also has counter arguments just as good.

love it when a masters player tells me my claims are baseless and have no logic.

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[Sedz]

Originally Posted by NvRossi

love it when a masters player tells me my claims are baseless and have no logic.

I love it when you disprove me. Go ahead and tell me where I was blatantly incorrect?
I couldn't care who you are, but some of the shit you said was plain retarded.

@ ChadMann

While I will admit he hasn't really come to LANs, and yeah, he does have a lot to prove off-line wise, I still think people should lay off so aggressively accusing until we actually have an executive decision by people who are in no way related to this community.

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	mGGDaedalus:	i respect standing up for your player but theres better ways to go about it
	Synizta:	Diffrence between defending your player and then shit on what other people are saying.
	neKo:	read the thread mate
	Champi:	ur trying so hard to defend a clanny that its blinding your judgement

[syfChadMann]

Originally Posted by Sedz

Too much evidence? There is a bunch of baseless claims with absolutely no justification or logic then there's a really good claim by Mafia which also has counter arguments just as good.

Also, you're quoting things from a year ago, you cannot be seriously be using that as any kind of evidence for hacking, especially games played.

Also, this has escalated so ******* far, as soon as you get people spamming emails and interfering in personal life it just gets ******* ridiculous. I seriously hope something is being done about this.

I have nothing to do with the email spamming - and quite frankly I think it is a stupid thing to be doing to someone.

Evidence - yes.. he's game sense is too good, he doesn't come to LANs, has portrait farmed using and automated bot (link to hacking), has not addressed the accusations, magically finds units on the map.. what I'm saying is - there is so much suggesting it, that it seems so obvious.. but the only true test is if he can perform while streaming or at LAN. He is listed as a streamer - and until he can upload a SpeedTest that shows he can't stream - I'd like to see him stream a bunch of his ladder too.. this is why he needs to do to clear his name.. but for me, the amount of evidence, it seems too much to overlook - imo, the ball is not in his court to clear his name.

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Champi:

i agree with this

[Xenomorph]

Originally Posted by Sedz

There's absolutely no reason for me to take this lightly when I am Clan Captain of AsG and I have to read a bunch of retarded stuff by bandwagoner's. Cmon dude, if this was your clan you'd be doing the same.

You're right in that there's no reason to take this lightly, but I had almost the EXACT same reaction when MeaNySPR was accused of maphacking. My advice, please don't blindly defend your clanmate before seriously taking a look at the evidence. I made that mistake with Meany's situation, and it had negative effect on SPR's image. Don't repeat history.

With all this being said, I had a few games back vs YaMaMa in the past, he mostly did retarded all ins though, so I assumed it was just cheesey play. I'll take a look in my replay log.

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[dippa]

AsGCHoBo: do you believe your brother hacked while playing on YaMaMa or your CHoBo account?

[CHoBo(kice)]

i dont beleive he would otherwise that would be disrespectful

[nirvAnA]

Can the people who are email bombing him kindly please stop it? He is getting harassed now with mass emails from bots.

1. He has not been proven guilty yet, do not treat him as such. Basically TL says this exact same thing too.
2. If he is found guilty he will be banned from all tournaments by all organisers, but interfering in his personal life and harassing him is way overboard.

Someone made a bot send mass junk mail to his personal email address to flood it.

I have sent an email to CatZ on tony's request and hopefully we will hear for him shortly.

[Rage]

My god, are you some of you guys privately emailing him?

You're a bunch of silly gooses.

Calm down spazzes.

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[Snx.FigJig]

People are harassing him with emails? That's just not on, even if he is found guilty of hacking.

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	Rage:
	ROOT`iaguz:	If he is found guilty then he can be fed to dogs, but until then some respect is warranted
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[TAriiChard]

who's email bombing Chobo?

[Kepler]

I'm trying to remain as impartial as possible. I think there's some pretty serious evidence here, but I think the people personally attacking him and spamming his email account have absolutely no class. This is absolutely ridiculous and unfair to come to such a quick judgement of someone.

Some people in this thread need to grow up and not act like a bunch of angry teenagers accusing someone of hacking because they got killed by them.

Just because he portrait farmed in 2011 to get a portrait doesn't mean he's hacking, if anything they're completely irrelevant to each other. Lots of people will purposely tank their rating to bronze in order to farm wins.

[junitor]

well, all i am an amateur, all i can do is

http://i.imgur.com/5u5Ub.gif

well done.

Sarah

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[AxSGRiM]

Originally Posted by junitor

well, all i am an amateur, all i can do is

http://i.imgur.com/5u5Ub.gif

well done.

Sarah

I'm not sure If I've seen anything more pointless.

[TAScaramanga]

I thought Rossi had this case closed? How can the evidence given be refuted?
Clear screen lock timings, different viking pathings that manage to directly target 4 overlords (the second example has him hovering his rally OVER 2 OVERLORDS deciding what path to take) and whats been dubbed the pull back of the century. I don't understand how this has been glossed over so easily...........

[TABiggun]

No evidence? Noone has even discussed my claim that he randomly looks into the main and natural on the Shakuras game at 5:30.

Why would you randomly do that? He selected all his scvs then looked into the main and made no actions, then looked over to the natural.

Edit: This is in the replay of chobo vs Mafia on shakuras plateau

[Sedz]

Originally Posted by TABiggun

No evidence? Noone has even discussed my claim that he randomly looks into the main and natural on the Shakuras game at 5:30.

Why would you randomly do that? He selected all his scvs then looked into the main and made no actions, then looked over to the natural.

Edit: This is in the replay of chobo vs Mafia on shakuras plateau

I had a look at this, he looks briefly into the main for two seconds, and the camera stops on the un-taken gas. As I said before, surely the hack would centre directly onto the Baneling nest, and not so far away from it?

Can someone confirm?

[NvRossi]

who the **** would even email bomb, can we see some proof of this?

[NvRossi]

good bloody troll

[TAriiChard]

Chobo who is emailing you!!! Tell us!!!!