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Unread Mon, 12th-Mar-2012, 10:19 PM Who's Who:   BnetId: Suipr.712  Race: Clan: ToR  Location: Adelaide, Australia  Total Posts Made: 557 # 1
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This may or may not be true.. but it is the format we have been given to work with.. and will be the format in the Playoffs..

having 5 matches worth 1 and 1 match worth 2 does devalue the ace match significantly - to win, a team needs to win at least an equal number of matches.. and the Ace match - which is inherently a tactical match to develop more strategy in matches..
In fact if 3 games went 2 - 0 to team A and the other 3 (inc Ace match) went 2 - 1 to team B, this would result in a 9 - 6 game lead for Team A and a win overall for Team B, 4 points to 3.
This is games though, not matches as you have pointed out.

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However, having an extra 1 point match will lessen the effect of the Ace match somewhat and mean there is no chance for draws.
Just wanted to point out that mathematically, Team A still has 150% the wins of Team B, the only difference now is that Team B wins rather than draws.

Of course that's all just theory and I will definitely be pleased to have the chance to play in whatever is decided and as always I sincerely appreciate the effort that goes in each week behind the scenes.

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Unread Mon, 12th-Mar-2012, 9:55 PM BnetId: VBPotthead.898  Race: Clan: VB  Location: South Australia  Total Posts Made: 787 # 2
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Teams being able to play is better than an ace match imo.
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Unread Mon, 12th-Mar-2012, 11:32 PM BnetId: AsGZealo.172  Race: Clan: AsG  Location: perth, australia  Total Posts Made: 607 # 3
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i maintain my position that ties in finals series should be resolved with a Bo3 2v2 match.

anyone opposed is simply scared of facing 2 penguins at the same time
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Unread Tue, 13th-Mar-2012, 1:06 PM BnetId: Volition.893  Race: Location: Toowoomba  Total Posts Made: 209 # 4
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i maintain my position that ties in finals series should be resolved with a Bo3 2v2 match.
Screw it, why not? Whenever these overly complicated systems come in, it always makes me think of that scene in Baseketball where the commentators are trying to explain to the TV viewers how each of the East/West etc divisions work, and then if none of the results work out they have Sack races on consecutive Sundays to make the determination. Seems pretty solid

Tier 5 reminds me of Baseketball a little, a competition with lots of sledging, and the fans love it.

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Unread Tue, 13th-Mar-2012, 5:28 PM BnetId: breadfan.875  Race: Clan: ToR  Location: Brisbane, Australia  Total Posts Made: 1,073 # 5
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Screw it, why not? Whenever these overly complicated systems come in, it always makes me think of that scene in Baseketball where the commentators are trying to explain to the TV viewers how each of the East/West etc divisions work, and then if none of the results work out they have Sack races on consecutive Sundays to make the determination. Seems pretty solid

Tier 5 reminds me of Baseketball a little, a competition with lots of sledging, and the fans love it.
Nobody else has a chance if ToR qualify - we are the masters of the psych out
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Unread Mon, 12th-Mar-2012, 11:34 PM BnetId: TAEdarus.427  Race: Location: Ballarat, Australia  Total Posts Made: 449 # 6
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Honestly, i love the way the planning of teams adds to the dynamincs of the match, but I don't think you lose that. I honestly think a Bo5 is better than a blind pick tiebreaker for all involved.
I'm with keeping the ace match but not sold on adding an extra game for the sake of teams with smaller or unreliable lineups.

As Chad said the Ace gives an element of planning and game-sniping to the captains... if the games were played in league order without the current "Ace" match as a literal ace, the diamonds would always go last. In the example Chad gave, this would mean our Diamond Zerg entered a matchup which his opponent dominated. By having the ability to have the ace as any league (when your opponent is likely to put their strongest there) you can snipe it like we did.

So TLR - I vote keep the ace format, however we need some form of input from all captains to see if they think an extra match is feasible (for TA I say yes it is).
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Unread Mon, 12th-Mar-2012, 11:52 PM Who's Who:   BnetId: TAChadMann.277  Race: Clan: TA/sR  Location: Byron Bay  Total Posts Made: 2,806 # 7
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With the extra match - if teams legitimately can't find another player for the finals (I don't know who wouldn't want to play in finals) then we may allow a player to play twice...

OR in the case of a draw - go off map score?...
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Unread Tue, 13th-Mar-2012, 12:50 PM BnetId: AsGZealo.172  Race: Clan: AsG  Location: perth, australia  Total Posts Made: 607 # 8
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Unread Tue, 13th-Mar-2012, 8:41 PM BnetId: Heady.199  Race: Clan: FS  Location: Bunbury, Australia  Total Posts Made: 88 # 9
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The ace match should be worth 1 point per set.
That way you can win with three 1 point games and taking one map in the ace. Will prevent most draws but but not all. Additionally it will make it easier to prepare a sniper since the ace player only needs to win one map to contribute to his team.

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Unread Thu, 15th-Mar-2012, 10:21 AM BnetId: ToRvenom.977  Race: Clan: ToR/SOT  Location: Brisbane,Australia  Total Posts Made: 447 # 11
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Unread Fri, 16th-Mar-2012, 9:30 PM Race: Clan: ToR  Location: Gosford  Total Posts Made: 309 # 12
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Korean name, yet only ? Come on now, surely you can hide that smurf better than this...




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Unread Sun, 18th-Mar-2012, 9:12 AM BnetId: breadfan.875  Race: Clan: ToR  Location: Brisbane, Australia  Total Posts Made: 1,073 # 14
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Grats HuaJoo!!! Post something so I can rep you

And why haven't I had any practice matches against you? Let's make this happen dude

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Unread Wed, 21st-Mar-2012, 1:52 PM BnetId: ToRHJooPark.888  Race: Clan: ToR  Location: Malaysia  Total Posts Made: 45 # 15
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Grats HuaJoo!!! Post something so I can rep you

And why haven't I had any practice matches against you? Let's make this happen dude
Anytime eh Breadfan! Always good to practice with fellow clan mates

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Unread Sat, 17th-Mar-2012, 4:50 PM BnetId: ToRSchnitzel.758  Race: Clan: ToR  Location: Brisbane, Australia  Total Posts Made: 1,045 # 16
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Unread Sat, 17th-Mar-2012, 5:33 PM Who's Who:   BnetId: TAChadMann.277  Race: Clan: TA/sR  Location: Byron Bay  Total Posts Made: 2,806 # 17
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so you will play PvP now?.. O_O
Trying to end all the PvZ Schnitzel sniping.. :P

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Unread Sat, 17th-Mar-2012, 6:31 PM Who's Who:   BnetId: TAChadMann.277  Race: Clan: TA/sR  Location: Byron Bay  Total Posts Made: 2,806 # 18
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Unread Sat, 17th-Mar-2012, 6:39 PM BnetId: ToRSchnitzel.758  Race: Clan: ToR  Location: Brisbane, Australia  Total Posts Made: 1,045 # 19
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Unread Sat, 17th-Mar-2012, 6:55 PM BnetId: AsGZealo.172  Race: Clan: AsG  Location: perth, australia  Total Posts Made: 607 # 20
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