[Turkle]

Thanks for all of your feedback, Pretty much what I am looking to do here is start from the ground up, hence why I am only looking to work with one player. obviously my goals are set very high, maybe too high for the first year or two from when I begin. But I just want to show the community how keen I am to see it expand and I really want to be a part of it.

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Pandan:

It's an admirable goal, but maybe that should be your first post instead of the 'alternative' material you supplied

[UHF]

I personally don't think he needs to supply anything more than he has. I've just spent 5 minutes googling and found enough information to know that he isn't being shady. Besides, if I was a player I'd also be on the buzzer chatting with him for more info to figure out if the situation was right for me.

Surely we don't need to spoon-feed players - I mean, is there no self-initiative anymore!?

I also think it's a dangerous road to expect all the inner workings of new faces to be made public so that the greater community can judge whether their plan will work or not. I would hazard to guess that 99% of the time that person would be shot down for setting goals higher than the community perceives attainable at the time.

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	Stallion:	well said
	Pandan:	My statement was on the incessant need the new people have to lie/piggyback on others work to get 'credit'. Need to stop
	syfChadMann:	His post isn't enticing tho. Any Joe can make these claims and goals.
	nirvAnA:	lovely post UHF!

[Turkle]

I think you guys got the wrong understanding of big claims, My goal for the first few months is to recruit a player who is willing to train. For me to be able to bring sponsorship and other incentives in for the player, the player needs to have tournament wins under his belt. It is the same for anything eSports related
This is why I have said I am starting from the ground up and this will be a year + project.

[|Erasmus|]

Originally Posted by fray`ChadMann:

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His post isn't enticing tho. Any Joe can make these claims and goals.

And if you spent the 5 minutes a player should make before leaping on the offer you'd have a clear idea of whether those claims were legitimate...

[syfChadMann]

Originally Posted by |Erasmus|

And if you spent the 5 minutes a player should make before leaping on the offer you'd have a clear idea of whether those claims were legitimate...

But what is enticing a player to spend that 5 mins? or more. Gamers are notoriously lazy.

Also, I've dealt with numerous applications for organisations I've been involved with from many mysterious characters. I have little trust for such propositions. Sure, I may be jaded, but I just feel if he wants to represent as a professional he needs to do just that. There is enough hot air in eSports. Nevertheless, all that said - I'm not putting the guy down, just suggesting that if he wants the best talent he can get, which in result will help him secure the best sponsorship deals, he needs to be enticing.

Circle jerking anyone that wants to put effort into the scene aside, this is marketing 101. If he can't sell himself, how in the world do you expect him to sell any 'sponsored' player to establish sponsorship deals and achieve his lofty goals.

I'm sure this post isn't going to be popular, but note the people that will likely agree with me, are all experienced vets of the eSports scene. I'm no long term vet, but when someone like Pandan says the past is elusive, you listen.

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	Reere:	I'm on the Chadtrain~
	Stallion:	we are lazy

[TADivinity]

I think the standard sc2sea grilling is a good thing.

The ones that are serious and legitimate will survive.

The ones that are full of ideals and good intentions, but no real backbone or support will fall through.

It isn't rude, nor will it drive away anyone legit. In fact, anyone legit will be able to provide the answers with ease - and it is likely that they would be happy to do this as well.

[Malice]

http://www.sc2sea.com/showthread.php?t=4370

Perfect example of a well written recruitment thread, whether it be single player or for a team.

[SLCN.CautioN]

Goodluck big man!

[RuineD]

posting in a fray circlejerk thread.

just kidding, but seriously as a player rather than a manager what you've stated in the OP isn't enough to give me incentive to follow it up. for example, i dont want to have to go digging around on the internet to work out if this is legit or not - if i question the legitimacy of it then i don't think it's worth following up if that makes sense.

gl hf with your endeavors;;

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	syfChadMann:	Feel free to edit out that first line.
	Malice:	^No need to be snippy mate.

[Fairyking]

GL with your goals man hope you achieve you wildest dreams.
The comments made me lol.

[PulSe]

Good luck with finding a player. It's good to see that previously unknown people are making a name for themselves in out little corner of the globe.

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	RuineD:	No need to be snippy, mate.
	Malice:	No need to be snippy, mate.
	syfChadMann:	enjoying this IXL Circle Jerk.
	Snx.FigJig:	^Feel free to edit out that line.

[gwartney]

good luck hope you go far