[Peleus]

Originally Posted by yongming

game companies create games. people create esports.

With respect, rubbish.

If LoL didn't have the backing / participation of Riot within the eSports community it would be significantly less popular / successful as what it is.

[yongming]

Originally Posted by PeleusSPR

With respect, rubbish.

If LoL didn't have the backing / participation of Riot within the eSports community it would be significantly less popular / successful as what it is.

the thing is riot did not create lol to be an esports title. they created the game as an alternative to hon and dota 1 at that time as there were hardly any alternatives to the emerging moba market. people played it and it got popular and the esports movement got its momentum. thats when riot comes in.

blizzard right from the start shoved sc2 down the community throats. they focus too much on the esports aspect and neglect that what the community really wanted in the game. more so since the game is a supposed successor to bw.

[BordZ]

Originally Posted by PeleusSPR

With respect, rubbish.

If LoL didn't have the backing / participation of Riot within the eSports community it would be significantly less popular / successful as what it is.

But thats the thing, riot needs these numbers to make the game profitable (they want you to keep coming back to buy more skins, champions etc etc) wheras you just buy your lisence from blizzard and they have their money. So saying that without the backing of riot is completely irrelevant.

There is also another apsect that people ignore and that is with 32 million active accounts that lol is a cash cow. They can easliy afford to sponser so much. Every patch (which is every 2 weeks, and they balnce the game every 2 weeks as well) they add new skins and champions that cost like $10 each which the community eats up.

Is lol more casual than sc2, no imo. Everyone wants to win and gets very agressive when someone messes up even in normal queue.

[EveLoire]

i saw this on tl.net yesterday and died a little inside. Still dying even more today.

[Another]

but lol is SO bad...

[SungInSPR]

I can say LoL is replacing Starcraft1, just like someone said SC2 was never big before, and LoL is so popular in korea now. lol

[JoFritzMD]

Originally Posted by PeleusSPR

With respect, rubbish.

If LoL didn't have the backing / participation of Riot within the eSports community it would be significantly less popular / successful as what it is.

Agree with this so much. Riot has thrown so much money into making it THE moba game in the esports community. Why do you think HoN isn't at IEM. I think valve will probably try to do the same with DOTA2.

[Meatex]

yeah but if people do not embrace it as an e-sport that its wasted money
So I feel like both those statements are correct

But blizzard do need to take note of this and probably has some plans to improve sc2's standing as an e-sports with HotS.
Heres hoping they don't try to emulate LoL by making the game more casual friendly

[ToRDarKnoob]

blizzard needs to clean up their act with the community (somewhat with patch 1.5)
and somehow make the game more appealing to lower level players such as custom map, clan support to keep people in the game and blizzard run tournaments for each league. (just my take on things)

[FS.Kezz]

There is no way StarCraft will ever be replaced.

[dKiWi]

LoL and fps games are more about teamwork and communication. SC2 is more towards mechanics.

Teamwork and communication are not easy skills to develop. If lets say im looking at recruiting someone for my fps/LoL clan i'll ask him specific questions relating to communication.

There is also the hidden side of communication which is trust, which is very difficult to build up as well. I would say this is the most important element that makes or breaks amateur teams, but pro teams should not have this problem.

These factors would be what possibly makes LoL appealing as an e-sport compared to SC2, where these factors are absent. I have not really analysed the current situation in detail but I would think it is an exaggeration to say that LoL "replaces" SC2.

The problem with Kotaku is that they actually have good info, but they choose to post some sensationalist pieces from time to time. I've gradually developed a love-hate relationship with Kotaku as a result.

[CZE]

Erm. If anything Riotgames shoved LoL down everyone's throat (in major competitions). The game was hardly popular in the esports scene when the company was throwing wads of cash at IEM/DH/IEM etc. People couldn't resist the ludicrous amounts of prize money being offered. This coupled with it being free to play and the stream links to competitions being embedded in the game caused it to grow a viewership. SC2 did none of the sort.

Why people rage (I'm one of these people) about LoL getting an audience size it may not possibly deserve is because the other two alternatives in the same genre (DotA 2 / HoN) are JUST as entertaining to watch and have a much higher skill ceiling. Sure LoL offers a great test of team-work but as does Dota and HoN. It's stupid and I can sympathise with anyone naysaying toward LoL: It's gotten to where it has for all the wrong reasons.

[Cute]

Originally Posted by CZE

Why people rage (I'm one of these people) about LoL getting an audience size it may not possibly deserve is because the other two alternatives in the same genre (DotA 2 / HoN) are JUST as entertaining to watch and have a much higher skill ceiling. Sure LoL offers a great test of team-work but as does Dota and HoN. It's stupid and I can sympathise with anyone naysaying toward LoL: It's gotten to where it has for all the wrong reasons.

You could say the same about BW and SC2 though. BW has a much higher skill ceiling, and is just as exciting to watch, if not more so, than SC2. But ultimately, more people play SC2, so that's where the competition is (outside of Korea, of course)

[rizE]

My input on the situation is LoL is ******* terrible

Good Day

[Akilos]

Well all we can probably agree and say is that LoL is a little...bit... too scrub friendly, You'll see lots of kids with big egos there occasionally did not enjoy my 1 year in that game.

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[Mayo]

I don't understand why all of you guys are raging at LoL as a game.

It has it's niche in the gaming community, learn to live with it and get over it.
Hell, I think cod4 is a dumb fps game, but I still sponsor tournaments and gaming teams.

People need to learn to appreciate a game for what it is.
If LoL can bring 225,000 people to watch an IEM steam at once, I applaud it for helping grow eSports as a whole.

All of you guys are just getting super defensive and attacking it as a game.

[ToRVenom]

Originally Posted by Mayo

I don't understand why all of you guys are raging at LoL as a game.

It has it's niche in the gaming community, learn to live with it and get over it.
Hell, I think cod4 is a dumb fps game, but I still sponsor tournaments and gaming teams.

People need to learn to appreciate a game for what it is.
If LoL can bring 225,000 people to watch an IEM steam at once, I applaud it for helping grow eSports as a whole.

All of you guys are just getting super defensive and attacking it as a game.

Everyone has their own opion, im not to sure what you were going to expect when posting this thread. i guess the name of the thread is going to encourage this kind of response from the community that this article detrimental towards it .

What did you expect when posting to a SCII community that it is dying out in it main country.
They will defend it to extremes.

[Fourby]

Originally Posted by Mayo

I don't understand why all of you guys are raging at LoL as a game.

It has it's niche in the gaming community, learn to live with it and get over it.
Hell, I think cod4 is a dumb fps game, but I still sponsor tournaments and gaming teams.

People need to learn to appreciate a game for what it is.
If LoL can bring 225,000 people to watch an IEM steam at once, I applaud it for helping grow eSports as a whole.

All of you guys are just getting super defensive and attacking it as a game.

If esports just becomes a bunch of free to play games that were made to be noob-friendly, just... how could that not make anyone angry? let alone posting this in an SC2 webite stating that its taking over SC2............................................... ............................................ btw i heard koreans are really terrible at LoL in comparison to the (chinese?) or something

[iSt]

i believe sc2 > lol.

however, as a korean, i cant deny the fact that lol is likely to be the next bw in korea.

[inFeZa]

There can be more than 'one eSport'