[ProAnnn]

Actually, if you couldnt submit the lineup in time, you should contact your Tier's admin as soon as possible to get their understanding. For my case, my team(T2) was uncontactable due to CNY. I contacted the admin on the deadline itself and they granted me 1 day grace to submit lineup. I did what i should do to contact them but if you didnt even bother to contact your admins, you deserve the ladder point deduction.

[Cube.Dione]

HDMD-KT vs Cube will be 11pm AEDT, tnx tnx.

[ToRSpartaz]

So whats the situation for the first offense being a warning or not? Because in ToR's case I have been having problems with the Net as of late and haven't been able to check my PM's on Sc2sea and therefore I wasn't aware of the change in the registration.

I dont mind of course man, but just wondering

[FaDeBadger]

First offense is a warning, both ToR and AsG have officially received a warning. I will PM the managers after this round so they have an official note of the warning. Further offenses will result in point deduction.

[ToRSpartaz]

Kringe vs Manly (WO for FaDe)
Superman 2 > FaDeGoFire
Danosaur 2 > 0 FaDeEdOne
DeeSam 0 < 2 Scope
Trusty 0 < 2 FaDeVenosaur

Fade Win 4-2 Gg wp all ^^

[Reere]

nRv vs WNG [3-3] TIE

Flamga < Petraeus [0-2]
eASe > Venom [2-0]
LiOn > Digby [Walkover]
Faulting > Kroot [Walkover]
*nRvGrim < lzq [1-2]

* = Ace Match

GG WP all~

[Fate]

Results for Crux B (Spoon's Soldiers) vs ToT
game 1 Tot won (1 point) doctor(sub for darknite) 2 - 0 cruxFate
game 2 Tot Won (1 point) Phoenix 2 - 0 cruxSpoon
game 3 postphoned due to missing players and lack of subs adybToT vs cruXTC
game 4 Tot won (1 point) YiDaToT 2-0 cruxTeslaz
Ace match: Crux B won (2 points) oGrNsCo 1-2 cruxShoodyo

So at the moment its ToT 3 - 2 crux B, if Crux B wins the postphoned game 3 ToT and crux B will draw 3-3, if ToT wins game 3 ToT wins 4-0 due to ace match not being counted.

[Cube.Dione]

Game 1: GSL Bel'shir beach (winter) - CubeBy vs kTevilbox(P) 2:0
Game 2: GSL Antiga Shipyard - CubeRixilius vs GTEunjung(P) 2:1
Game 3: GSL Daybreak - CubeDione vs Kobushi(Z) 2:0
Game 4: GSL Dual Sight - CubeTanTaniX vs paradox(T) 0:2
Game 5: Ace game: MLG Taldarim Altar - CubePayAso vs polkadodge(T) 0:2

3:3 DRAW

[ToRSpartaz]

Sooo many draws xD

[Dox]

Game 1
SedZ 1-2 Crimson

Game 2
Griefer 0-2 Flaunt (FORFEIT)

Game 3
Dox 2-0 Fresco

Game 4
Nadir 0-2 Another

Ace
CHoBo 2-0 Kowi


AsG 3 - 3 Iris
(DRAW)

Quick Comments

	Zealo:	hero dox saves us again! :)
	TAEdgE:	impressive

[FaDeBadger]

Originally Posted by Fate

Results for Crux B (Spoon's Soldiers) vs ToT
game 1 Tot won (1 point) doctor(sub for darknite) 2 - 0 cruxFate
game 2 Tot Won (1 point) Phoenix 2 - 0 cruxSpoon
game 3 postphoned due to missing players and lack of subs adybToT vs cruXTC
game 4 Tot won (1 point) YiDaToT 2-0 cruxTeslaz
Ace match: Crux B won (2 points) oGrNsCo 1-2 cruxShoodyo

So at the moment its ToT 3 - 2 crux B, if Crux B wins the postphoned game 3 ToT and crux B will draw 3-3, if ToT wins game 3 ToT wins 4-0 due to ace match not being counted.

Why would the ace match not be counted?

[Dox]

And it's a tie between Iris and AsG!

[alwaysdryToT]

Originally Posted by Fate

Results for Crux B (Spoon's Soldiers) vs ToT
game 1 Tot won (1 point) doctor(sub for darknite) 2 - 0 cruxFate
game 2 Tot Won (1 point) Phoenix 2 - 0 cruxSpoon
game 3 postphoned due to missing players and lack of subs adybToT vs cruXTC
game 4 Tot won (1 point) YiDaToT 2-0 cruxTeslaz
Ace match: Crux B won (2 points) oGrNsCo 1-2 cruxShoodyo

So at the moment its ToT 3 - 2 crux B, if Crux B wins the postphoned game 3 ToT and crux B will draw 3-3, if ToT wins game 3 ToT wins 4-0 due to ace match not being counted.

The interest thing is I never receive a massage from crux guys about postphoning match, u guys also not even try to contact me, is it right?

[FaDeBadger]

Originally Posted by alwaysdryToT

The interest thing is I never receive a massage from crux guys about postphoning match, u guys also not even try to contact me, is it right?

Firstly, you still haven't answered my question of why the ace match wouldn't be counted and secondly, you have every right to decline to play the "postponed" match if you cannot get people available for it as I have already told you in PM. I am waiting for a response from you on whether you can come to an agreed time with crux or not.

[alwaysdryToT]

Originally Posted by FaDeBadger

Firstly, you still haven't answered my question of why the ace match wouldn't be counted and secondly, you have every right to decline to play the "postponed" match if you cannot get people available for it as I have already told you in PM. I am waiting for a response from you on whether you can come to an agreed time with crux or not.

lol，firstly, I never said ace match wouldn't be counted, fate did
secondly, in the last PM, u said u would ask crux manager and back to me soon, its me who waiting a response ,not you.
thirdly, I know I have right to decline postponed, but I want to be nice, even Im not contacted by crux guys, I still advise my player to play postponely. but now, I think we deserve a walkover.

[FaDeBadger]

Originally Posted by alwaysdryToT

lol，firstly, I never said ace match wouldn't be counted, fate did
secondly, in the last PM, u said u would ask crux manager and back to me soon, its me who waiting a response ,not you.
thirdly, I know I have right to decline postponed, but I want to be nice, even Im not contacted by crux guys, I still advise my player to play postponely. but now, I think we deserve a walkover.

This should have been done by PM. I'm not going to get into a pissing contest with you. If crux said that the ace match would not be counted then you should have been informed hence me asking you as well. I have told you multiple times now what your options are. You no longer have the choice. It is a walkover to you because I need the results now.

In future, I would appreciate these types of matters be worked out between the team managers. The idea is for the admins to be the rule enforcers, or the *knowledgebase* of the rules. Not for us to micromanage every matchup and baby sit team managers.

To all managers, should anything like this occur in the future do it by PM or skype and not in the thread.

To the crux manager, I'm still curious why the ace match would not be counted. If you could PM me as to why that would be great.

[FaDeBadger]

OP has been updated with all results as has the current standings table. Week 3 thread has been posted here!

[alwaysdryToT]

Originally Posted by FaDeBadger

I have told you multiple times now what your options are.

But I only received two PM, which the last one was at 12:58AM 27th Jan 2012 and you said you were going to talk to crux manager regarding the postponed match and get back to me. After that however I have received no more response. Thus, I never knew what my options were. Although the known server issures might have contributed to this as PM might not have been correctly sent and recewived. We wanted to be nice and wait for a postponed match but we need timely feedback. As I have told you I have tried to contact the crux manager in their channel but received only ignorance.

IMO,as an admin, you are not just the rule enforcer. Admin has to act as a mediator should any disputes arise amongst various teams. We have now only completed two rounds and I predict many more problems such as today's will come for you admins to resolve.
Team managers will always try to talk to each other if anything does happen and admin's involvement will only be sought if nothing is coming to an agreement. So far our oppoentents have been nice and understanding and we have been the same to them.
Lastly, good luck to all teams and all admins in future rounds of the SEACL.

[FaDeBadger]

Originally Posted by alwaysdryToT

IMO,as an admin, you are not just the rule enforcer. Admin has to act as a mediator should any disputes arise amongst various teams.

Purely a case of semantics. Obviously admins will resolve disputes. The result is already in as a walkover to ToT.

This will be last post in a public thread I will give on this matter and the last time I will say this, these matters should be sorted out BY PM OR SKYPE. This thread is purely for the matchups and results submission.