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Unread Wed, 9th-May-2012, 5:44 PM BnetId: nRvBard.924  Race: Location: Adelaide  Total Posts Made: 458 # 141
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Footy had State of Origin for years, the only reason it stopped was because they made the V.F.L the A.F.L and it wasn't needed anymore. SoO still exists at a school level for major states so I don't get why everyone is saying that it is exclusively Qld/NSW.

Also I dont get where all these random facts are coming from, because most of them are so wrong its not funny. SoO is predominately used to determine who the better players are in each state in order to create a team for national events. Its why it still exists at a school level and is one of the major drafting tools the A.F.L uses.

So lets leave it at that, the name is perfectly fine in a historical sense and in a practical sense. SoO exists all over Australia and no the ACT was never part of it, they fall under NSW. The reasoning is ACT has <500,000 people which makes it extremely difficult for them to field a competitive team.

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Unread Wed, 9th-May-2012, 5:47 PM Who's Who:   BnetId: TAdeL#159  BattleTag: FXOdeL#468  Race: Clan: TA  Location: Sydney, Australia  Total Posts Made: 1,917 # 142
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Teams are fleshing out nicely! Start deciding on your A-Team captains guys and I will collaborate full team lists and such into the next thread, as well as find out how much money I will have to put up (I am thinking $100-150 + the $150 from NW, not including other donators!).

Also feel free to give your team a nickname (in rugby the queensland are canetoads or maroons, NSW are cockroaches or blues) or even a logo idea that I or someone with actual talent could have a go at n_n
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Unread Wed, 9th-May-2012, 6:51 PM BnetId: cruxDoc.768  Race: Clan: crux  Location: Melbourne, Australia  Total Posts Made: 331 # 143
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Ah damn... really hope I manage to get into Vic A-team =(
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Unread Wed, 9th-May-2012, 9:27 PM BnetId: TAdippa.684  Race: Location: Sydney  Total Posts Made: 663 # 144
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should also mention for victoria:

westley + fourby for A-team (considering they both played in ACL group stages after finishing 1st+2nd in the regionals)

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Unread Thu, 10th-May-2012, 12:14 AM BnetId: AsGZealo.172  Race: Clan: AsG  Location: perth, australia  Total Posts Made: 607 # 145
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i thought del was picking the A teams...

who are the captains then?
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Unread Thu, 10th-May-2012, 1:24 AM BnetId: Jerry.336  Race: Location: Canberra  Total Posts Made: 31 # 146
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I believe ACT can form a team to join this party, any chance for that?

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Unread Thu, 10th-May-2012, 3:23 AM BnetId: TAsivvon.369  Race: Clan: TA  Location: QLD  Total Posts Made: 126 # 147
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put me down for qld b team
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Unread Thu, 10th-May-2012, 11:08 AM BnetId: TALoSt.281  Race: Clan: TA  Location: Brisbane, Australia  Total Posts Made: 422 # 148
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deL if you haven't organised a QLD B captain, put me down and I'll see how I go about starting to organize a team just so we can get things sorted quicker and less hassle is being put on you.
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Unread Thu, 10th-May-2012, 2:53 PM BnetId: XenomorphSPR.194  Race: Clan: SPR  Location: Canberra, Australia  Total Posts Made: 180 # 149
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Ok guys, why doesnt ACT have a team????? We got atleast myself, Santi, YYJ and Jerry and possibly wTintegrande and Werhmacht who can play, all of us GM. Plz consider...

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Unread Thu, 10th-May-2012, 3:10 PM BnetId: XenomorphSPR.194  Race: Clan: SPR  Location: Canberra, Australia  Total Posts Made: 180 # 150
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SoO exists all over Australia and no the ACT was never part of it, they fall under NSW. The reasoning is ACT has <500,000 people which makes it extremely difficult for them to field a competitive team.
Excuse me, that argument is completely retarded as this competition requires only 4-5 players per team, which is funnily enough no where near 500000. And the ACT does indeed have enough have enough players to field a team, having atleast 5 GM's willing to represent the Capital.
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Unread Thu, 10th-May-2012, 3:16 PM BnetId: Spook.389  Race: Clan: ToR  Location: Adelaide, Australia  Total Posts Made: 1,570 # 151
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You also have ToRDano he is high masters on NA (rank 1-3) usually
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Unread Thu, 10th-May-2012, 3:18 PM BnetId: nRvBard.924  Race: Location: Adelaide  Total Posts Made: 458 # 152
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Actually my post is about the history of State of Origin and the reasoning as to why the ACT never had a team. The actual argument is listed throughout the entire thread.
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Unread Thu, 10th-May-2012, 3:26 PM BnetId: XenomorphSPR.194  Race: Clan: SPR  Location: Canberra, Australia  Total Posts Made: 180 # 153
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Why the hell would you post about the history of SoO if you aren't relating it to this competition - which is completely different in almost every aspect bar the name.
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Unread Thu, 10th-May-2012, 3:32 PM BnetId: nRvBard.924  Race: Location: Adelaide  Total Posts Made: 458 # 154
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Because State of Origin is historical. It relates to this competition because the only difference is we are playing SC2 instead of AFL/Rugby.
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Unread Thu, 10th-May-2012, 3:33 PM BnetId: XenomorphSPR.194  Race: Clan: SPR  Location: Canberra, Australia  Total Posts Made: 180 # 155
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Because State of Origin is historical. It relates to this competition because the only difference is we are playing SC2 instead of AFL/Rugby.
Then it should be only NSW and QLD in this competition, not Vic SA WA etc
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Unread Thu, 10th-May-2012, 3:37 PM BnetId: nRvBard.924  Race: Location: Adelaide  Total Posts Made: 458 # 156
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Then it should be only NSW and QLD in this competition, not Vic SA WA etc
From my earlier post.
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Unread Thu, 10th-May-2012, 3:46 PM BnetId: AsGZealo.172  Race: Clan: AsG  Location: perth, australia  Total Posts Made: 607 # 157
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Ok guys, why doesnt ACT have a team????? We got atleast myself, Santi, YYJ and Jerry and possibly wTintegrande and Werhmacht who can play, all of us GM. Plz consider...
because ACT is not a state.

personally i wouldn't mind seeing ACT (or a 'combined territories' team), even if only in B division. but it would be a completely reasonable decision if del decides not to include ACT.

including them as part of NSW would seem less reasonable to me, but whatever

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Then it should be only NSW and QLD in this competition, not Vic SA WA etc
the Australian rules state of origin series (which all states compete in) was running before the rugby league version. please stop using the 'only NSW and QLD' thing as an argument.
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Unread Thu, 10th-May-2012, 3:51 PM BnetId: iMSundeR.451  Race: Location: Melbourne, Australia  Total Posts Made: 225 # 158
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This is a STATE of Origin. So this is a battle of the states. Territories are not states, so without excluding people from the ACT being allowed to compete based on the fact that ACT is not a state, they are allowed to be fielded in the NSW team, because the ACT is actually enclaved in NSW.

So, actually, it's not unfair at all. If the NSW captain decides on a strong team that doesn't include any ACT players, well, you probably aren't the strongest players in all of the NSW region. The B-teams are created for this reason.

I don't see the need for all this drama when there is something really cool and fun being organised for you.

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Unread Thu, 10th-May-2012, 4:18 PM Race: Clan: wT  Location: Perth, Australia  Total Posts Made: 26 # 159
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I would enjoy seeing a combined ACT and Tasmania team even if it isnt in the history of the SoO since it would be really fun. ACT Tasmania team would be no pushovers with the likes of YYJ Jerry and integrand on their team.

And I mean in the end we are doing this SoO competition to have fun aren't we?
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Unread Thu, 10th-May-2012, 4:19 PM BnetId: Apoca1ypse  Race: Location: Canberra, Australia  Total Posts Made: 1 # 160
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I am disappoint that ACT cant rep itself.

With the complaints that NSW already has too many players, adding the ACT members to that just confounds the problem.

also if ACT or ACT+TAS can merge to form a team, that results in 6 teams which I would assume makes rounds nicer because of the even number. just a thought...

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