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Unread Thu, 3rd-May-2012, 10:21 AM BnetId: mayo.987  Race: Clan: 3h  Location: Melbourne, Australia  Total Posts Made: 992 # 41
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Oh and for the record, this is to do with SC2 and eSports.. We already have stuff going on in other games
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Unread Thu, 3rd-May-2012, 10:33 AM Who's Who:   Clan: None  Location: Melbourne  Total Posts Made: 2,231 # 42
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I'm currently trying to think of ways to bring other pro gamers to Australia, something that I think would draw a more of a public crowd and also help our current SEA pro's compete against an international in real life.
This i love! I'd love to see some pro gamers come to Aus to play against our best in our environment.
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Unread Thu, 3rd-May-2012, 10:38 AM BnetId: dMZ.627  Race: Clan: SPR.PG  Location: New Zealand  Total Posts Made: 60 # 43
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This i love! I'd love to see some pro gamers come to Aus to play against our best in our environment.
Yeah, it would be really awesome to see. It would have to be in association with ACL PRO (or something big of the sort) to be effective and worth while. It would entice more people to attend and of course, you could organise some sort of coaching event with the player the day before the event or something (as many players would much appreciate wisdom from a top-tier pro player from overseas).
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Unread Thu, 3rd-May-2012, 10:38 AM Who's Who:   BnetId: ToRErasmus.733  Race: Clan: ToR  Location: Sydney  Total Posts Made: 1,454 # 44
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A few people have said that offline events are the way to grow esports...

I don't completely disagree, because the community has to exist for esports to grow, and there is definitely a better atmosphere surrounding live events. Even just watching at barcraft it's amazing to have to so many people getting excited by starcraft.

But in terms of growing the professional scene (rather than just a scene where we have a lot of passionate fans and people who love and are interested in the scene) I think we should be sponsoring more online events.

Pro players at this point do not have extensive travel budgets. Many of them are not fully 'pro'. The play starcraft and are sponsored with some gear, and the odd travel stipend, most of them don't really make a living.

Lans are expensive to run for the organiser, which eats into the prize pool from the sponsorship money. It is expensive to get to for the players. We all love them, but most of the 'pro' players would have lost money (or their team lost money) out of a trip to ACL.

And viewers (if we talk global viewers, in the kind of numbers to get more sponsorship) only want to see high level play. This means all of the top players, who can't all afford to get to a lan every week somewhere in australia (and possibly including the other top players in SEA).

More of the online weekly cups with a few hundred dollars that are so common in the European scene and allow some of the players to actually earn some money off this game... maybe allow them to work a few less shifts a week and train a bit harder at this game.
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Unread Thu, 3rd-May-2012, 10:40 AM Who's Who:   Clan: None  Location: Melbourne  Total Posts Made: 2,231 # 45
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I mean, it's only ~$800 return from korea i think (+accomodation), so if the prizes are worth it then their teams might send them down! go go massive tournament.
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Unread Thu, 3rd-May-2012, 1:05 PM BnetId: mayo.987  Race: Clan: 3h  Location: Melbourne, Australia  Total Posts Made: 992 # 46
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Yeah that would be nice.
Some would require an appearance fee though.. Unless we were like MLG and paid for full flights + accom
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Unread Thu, 3rd-May-2012, 1:35 PM BnetId: dMZ.627  Race: Clan: SPR.PG  Location: New Zealand  Total Posts Made: 60 # 47
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I think some people in Australia have the mind set that sponsors will do everything for them. The thing is, I encourage people to promote themselves, it is a main part to earn sponsorship and of course receive it to start with. I know people do apply and try to meet a criteria for sponsorship, but once met some decide they don't need to do anything more.

These people will remain nameless but of course, I frown upon it. I don't mind turning my pocket inside out to go to a LAN event (which I did to get up to Auckland for xLAN 2011) - especially when someone is subsidising the trip and is doing the best to help me represent them. People should really feel more privileged with the support they receive (many most likely do, but there are a large minority that don't). I find it disheartening when I see sponsored players doing what Starcraft 2 players would consider "BM" amongst many other things of course.

Moral of the tl;dr: People need to continue to strive for support which given Tt Esports is going to support the SC2 community means that more people need to be trying to promote the scene and encourage media to be showcased on a global stage (promoting on other websites etc!)

I think a great way tt esports can support eSports growth is to reward those who try to grow eSports in Australia. They may not be the best, but they may continually support leagues with their commentary, constantly do write-ups for post-games and encourage development in the community (organising tournaments etc). Of course, you most likely already do this in some shape or form but its definitely something that would be good if not already supported.

I really liked the idea of Tt Esports allowing members of the community in Grandmaster to review your products, although some of the reviews were effortless. So if you were to do this again, maybe set some stricter criteria to get an optimal effort out of the review.

If i think of any other ideas I will be sure to post it up!

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Unread Thu, 3rd-May-2012, 4:14 PM Who's Who:   BnetId: iMyang.427  Race: Clan: TA  Location: Victoria, Australia  Total Posts Made: 633 # 48
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I really like the idea of supporting casters, there isn't many good ones in aus and they need to know they're appreciated!

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im curious of tt's esports expansion plan into sea since u guys already have somewhat of a foothold in east asia and oceania. i understand that sea is predominantly dominated by razer as of now.
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Unread Thu, 3rd-May-2012, 5:11 PM BnetId: HarmSup. 343  Race: Location: Tasmania  Total Posts Made: 17 # 50
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Representing Tasmanian E-sports Society (TESS).

I think TAdel's comment pretty much sums it all up for me.
From the position down here in Tasmania I think that we need to bring all the gamers together first, we've noticed that there are a lot of people who play LoL, SC2, CS, etc... but they don't realise that there is a community running here in Tasmania. So what we've done to this point is run small local tournaments for example LoL & SC2 2v2 tournaments with random teams (to allow other people of the local community to play and get to know each other) with prizes of Nutella.

We've also ran Barcrafts at a Net Cafe (cause we haven't found a bar yet). So thats our take on growing the E-sports community.

We've also noticed that streaming is a great inspiration to gamers, recently we've begun to stream our events and in receiving feedback from people, even though there arn't really many people watching the stream the players really do appreciate being streamed/cast which motivates them to participate in future events.

So hopefully you guys can use the ideas that we've used also any feedback would be much appreciated.

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Unread Thu, 3rd-May-2012, 9:12 PM BnetId: ToRBobby  Race: Clan: ToR  Location: Hell, i took over :D  Total Posts Made: 199 # 51
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Representing Tasmanian E-sports Society (TESS). (just shortened it all)
OMG there are other people in tassie? me never would have known :O

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Unread Wed, 9th-May-2012, 1:46 PM BnetId: mayo.987  Race: Clan: 3h  Location: Melbourne, Australia  Total Posts Made: 992 # 52
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