[Roz]

Originally Posted by JoFritzMD

I think a major point in what Light was saying was that if anyone from xgking said this after a win they would get lynched. Any other person says it, no one cares.

and there's obviously a reason that it's like that right?

[JoFritzMD]

Originally Posted by Roz

and there's obviously a reason that it's like that right?

Because people are incredibly biased and for some reason hold the xgking players up to a far higher standard then anyone else. If Benji came and said that about an opposing team that xgking just beat there would be the longest thread about how no one should ever do anything to do with him or his team ever again. But you say it and nothing happens. That's not right.

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	Stallion:	agreed
	Zepph:

[TAEdgE]

Originally Posted by Roz

we really dont care that much about what you think, all i can say is stop crying.

You got rolled, suck it.

Way to be rude to TargA mate

[Roz]

Originally Posted by JoFritzMD

Because people are incredibly biased and for some reason hold the xgking players up to a far higher standard then anyone else. If Benji came and said that about an opposing team that xgking just beat there would be the longest thread about how no one should ever do anything to do with him or his team ever again. But you say it and nothing happens. That's not right.

Things don't just happen for no reason, it's more to do with the things they do.

[TAEdarus]

Originally Posted by TAEdarus

nirvAnA:
lol @ the good ol "admins must have a personal vendetta against you"

Lol @ the good ol' admins taking the time to negrep and not respond to a PM...
Dafaq?

[iM MaFia]

Originally Posted by Roz

Things don't just happen for no reason, it's more to do with the things they do.

good quote ill remember this one

[cruxSpoon]

Just trying to keep things classy

EDIT: Yes, its not quite the proper use of the meme

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	Nemo:	hahaha, excellent one !
	NvPinder:	that meme belongs on a university meme page.

[TAEdgE]

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	cruxSpoon:	Ah haha
	[TA]LoSt:	Cap'n EdgE has spoken
	Maynarde:	LOOOOOOOOOOOL
	syfChadMann:	aye aye!
	simon:	yes
	NvRossi:	hahah!
	TABiggun:	LOL icing on the cake
	Stallion:	LOL WINNER
	TAriiChard:	ROFL!!
	TAEdarus:
	nirvAnA:	LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
	Xenomorph:
	Baldie:	So good
	neon:	aye aye cappn
	ToRSpookToR:	gg
	x5.Revenant:
	Spud:	lol
	Champi:	best call
	asdfSchnitzel:
	JoFritzMD:	this is the best start to the day I have had in months
	TADivinity:	After this I think you will definitely be keeping that avatar hahaha
	TAminimat:

[syfChadMann]

Can I just say,
My earlier comment - grow up guys.. I feel I need to explain that further.

Do you want eSports to grown and expand in this region?
Do you want more tournaments that showcase SEA talent and develop such emotionally invested action?
Do you want to win money at these tournaments?

Well what do you think carrying on like this says to potential sponsors?.. I surely wouldn't want my brand associated with this rubbish. If you guys have the capacity to, drop it and build a bridge and get over this whole issue - do it. your making this all look like a bunch of kids playing games over the Internet... I know, many of your are thinking to yourselves - "Well Chad, it is a bunch of kids playing games over the Internet..." - and that's exactly what everyone else will think of you - so carry on... If, however, you want people to recognise eSports as a legitimate profession in this region. Act like professionals. This attitude puts SEA eSports backwards, why you killing eSports?

so please, I implore you, grow up.

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nGenLight:

I agree with what your saying, but we ain't sitting here taking lumps for nothing.

[TABiggun]

Originally Posted by Roz

we really dont care that much about what you think, all i can say is stop crying.

You got rolled, suck it.

Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 1:20 AM: Roz: if not, we can only bo7
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 1:20 AM: Roz: like i told them, i wouldn't mind a bo9 if we could use RA or have a revive
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 1:18 AM: Roz: to take the free win
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 1:18 AM: Roz: im sure benji would be more than happy
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 1:18 AM: Roz: all i can say is, both seacl and seacc, all it gave me was trouble and dissapointment in the admins
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 1:18 AM: Roz: anyways, i don't even know what to say
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 1:08 AM: Roz: there were no rules
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 1:08 AM: Roz: nothing was originally decided
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 1:08 AM: Roz: 2013, for next season
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 1:08 AM: Roz: it'll probably be 2012
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 1:08 AM: Roz: tell me bout it edge
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 1:07 AM: Roz: because clans are considered to be inferior
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 1:07 AM: Roz: it's a CLAN LEAGUE but focus is supposedly on teams
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 1:06 AM: Roz: ROFL
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 1:06 AM: Roz: they didn't put clans and teams together
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 1:06 AM: Roz: we'd have a ok deep line up if
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 1:04 AM: Roz: something is wrong
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 1:04 AM: Roz: but when u do so much that the community starts to hate on u
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 1:03 AM: Roz: but it's the truth
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 1:03 AM: Roz: nothing against u light
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 1:03 AM: Roz: and then not wanting playoffs
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 1:03 AM: Roz: thx
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 1:03 AM: Roz: taking a free ******* win over us
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 1:03 AM: Roz: karma for
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 1:00 AM: Roz: for seacl and seacc
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 1:00 AM: Roz: the admins buys
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 1:00 AM: Roz: because everything benji says
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 1:00 AM: Roz: well apparently it seems like it is
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 12:59 AM: Roz: we aren't allowed
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 12:59 AM: Roz: well whoever said that
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 12:59 AM: Roz: so he won't accept reviving
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 12:59 AM: Roz: benji said he finds reviving dumb
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 12:59 AM: Roz: they wont let use use a revive
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 12:57 AM: Roz: sick of this shit
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 12:57 AM: Roz: i dont give a shit
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 12:57 AM: Roz: take it
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 12:57 AM: Roz: close to what we have atm
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 12:57 AM: Roz: the "disadvantage" isn't nearly
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 12:57 AM: Roz: i wanted bo7
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 12:57 AM: Roz: so he insisted bo9
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 12:56 AM: Roz: more like, he knows we have 4
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 12:56 AM: Roz: which he says there's 5
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 12:56 AM: Roz: if u aren't able to use all ur "best" players
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 12:56 AM: Roz: u guys will be at a disadvantage
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 12:56 AM: Roz: benji claims
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 12:56 AM: Roz: and there isn't
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 12:56 AM: Roz: no
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 12:55 AM: Roz: likes to suck it
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 12:55 AM: Roz: and the admins of course
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 12:55 AM: Roz: as usual
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 12:55 AM: Roz: benji refused
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 12:55 AM: Roz: by then
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 12:55 AM: Roz: u can take it 2-0
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 12:54 AM: Roz: if im mad enough
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 12:54 AM: Roz: see u next thursday
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 12:54 AM: Roz: 1-0 atm
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 12:54 AM: Roz: so yea
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 12:54 AM: Roz: and they go and do just that
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 12:54 AM: Roz: im asking them to not **** us over
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 12:54 AM: Roz: im not even asking them to accomodate atm
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 12:53 AM: Roz: they asked us to play because they will accomodate for us
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 12:53 AM: Roz: we didn't want to play seacl and seacc
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 12:53 AM: Roz: we already told them
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 12:53 AM: Roz: he gets a call in
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 12:53 AM: Roz: unless
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 12:53 AM: Roz: ice can make it on thursday
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 12:53 AM: Roz: i probably cant
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 12:53 AM: Roz: jokes
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 12:52 AM: Roz: wont allow
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 12:52 AM: Roz: no
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 12:52 AM: Roz: SUCK MY ******* DICK
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 12:52 AM: Roz: HOW THE **** IS IT MORE EXCITING WHEN WE ONLY HAVE 4 AND U GET A FREE WIN?
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 12:52 AM: Roz: and longer finals
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 12:52 AM: Roz: bo9 so it's more exciting
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 12:52 AM: Roz: and their reasoning was
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 12:51 AM: Roz: so i asked them to keep it bo7 , since no rules was listed
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 12:51 AM: Roz: i already told them that
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 12:51 AM: Roz: we will only have 4
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 12:51 AM: Roz: and becasue of scheduling problems
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 12:51 AM: Roz: whole season we only used 5 players total
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 12:50 AM: Roz: with 4 players?
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 12:50 AM: Roz: how do we play bo9
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 12:50 AM: Roz: take a free win
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 12:50 AM: Roz: good job guys
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 12:50 AM: Roz: xgking up 1-0 already in seacc
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 12:50 AM: Roz: woot

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	Nemo:
	SmirkToT:	more

[iM MaFia]

Originally Posted by TABiggun

Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 1:20 AM: Roz: if not, we can only bo7
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 1:20 AM: Roz: like i told them, i wouldn't mind a bo9 if we could use RA or have a revive
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 1:18 AM: Roz: to take the free win
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 1:18 AM: Roz: im sure benji would be more than happy
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 1:18 AM: Roz: all i can say is, both seacl and seacc, all it gave me was trouble and dissapointment in the admins
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 1:18 AM: Roz: anyways, i don't even know what to say
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 1:08 AM: Roz: there were no rules
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 1:08 AM: Roz: nothing was originally decided
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 1:08 AM: Roz: 2013, for next season
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 1:08 AM: Roz: it'll probably be 2012
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 1:08 AM: Roz: tell me bout it edge
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 1:07 AM: Roz: because clans are considered to be inferior
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 1:07 AM: Roz: it's a CLAN LEAGUE but focus is supposedly on teams
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 1:06 AM: Roz: ROFL
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 1:06 AM: Roz: they didn't put clans and teams together
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 1:06 AM: Roz: we'd have a ok deep line up if
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 1:04 AM: Roz: something is wrong
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 1:04 AM: Roz: but when u do so much that the community starts to hate on u
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 1:03 AM: Roz: but it's the truth
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 1:03 AM: Roz: nothing against u light
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 1:03 AM: Roz: and then not wanting playoffs
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 1:03 AM: Roz: thx
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 1:03 AM: Roz: taking a free ******* win over us
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 1:03 AM: Roz: karma for
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 1:00 AM: Roz: for seacl and seacc
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 1:00 AM: Roz: the admins buys
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 1:00 AM: Roz: because everything benji says
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 1:00 AM: Roz: well apparently it seems like it is
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 12:59 AM: Roz: we aren't allowed
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 12:59 AM: Roz: well whoever said that
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 12:59 AM: Roz: so he won't accept reviving
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 12:59 AM: Roz: benji said he finds reviving dumb
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 12:59 AM: Roz: they wont let use use a revive
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 12:57 AM: Roz: sick of this shit
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 12:57 AM: Roz: i dont give a shit
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 12:57 AM: Roz: take it
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 12:57 AM: Roz: close to what we have atm
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 12:57 AM: Roz: the "disadvantage" isn't nearly
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 12:57 AM: Roz: i wanted bo7
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 12:57 AM: Roz: so he insisted bo9
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 12:56 AM: Roz: more like, he knows we have 4
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 12:56 AM: Roz: which he says there's 5
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 12:56 AM: Roz: if u aren't able to use all ur "best" players
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 12:56 AM: Roz: u guys will be at a disadvantage
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 12:56 AM: Roz: benji claims
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 12:56 AM: Roz: and there isn't
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 12:56 AM: Roz: no
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 12:55 AM: Roz: likes to suck it
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 12:55 AM: Roz: and the admins of course
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 12:55 AM: Roz: as usual
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 12:55 AM: Roz: benji refused
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 12:55 AM: Roz: by then
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 12:55 AM: Roz: u can take it 2-0
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 12:54 AM: Roz: if im mad enough
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 12:54 AM: Roz: see u next thursday
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 12:54 AM: Roz: 1-0 atm
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 12:54 AM: Roz: so yea
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 12:54 AM: Roz: and they go and do just that
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 12:54 AM: Roz: im asking them to not **** us over
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 12:54 AM: Roz: im not even asking them to accomodate atm
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 12:53 AM: Roz: they asked us to play because they will accomodate for us
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 12:53 AM: Roz: we didn't want to play seacl and seacc
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 12:53 AM: Roz: we already told them
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 12:53 AM: Roz: he gets a call in
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 12:53 AM: Roz: unless
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 12:53 AM: Roz: ice can make it on thursday
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 12:53 AM: Roz: i probably cant
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 12:53 AM: Roz: jokes
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 12:52 AM: Roz: wont allow
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 12:52 AM: Roz: no
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 12:52 AM: Roz: SUCK MY ******* DICK
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 12:52 AM: Roz: HOW THE **** IS IT MORE EXCITING WHEN WE ONLY HAVE 4 AND U GET A FREE WIN?
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 12:52 AM: Roz: and longer finals
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 12:52 AM: Roz: bo9 so it's more exciting
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 12:52 AM: Roz: and their reasoning was
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 12:51 AM: Roz: so i asked them to keep it bo7 , since no rules was listed
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 12:51 AM: Roz: i already told them that
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 12:51 AM: Roz: we will only have 4
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 12:51 AM: Roz: and becasue of scheduling problems
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 12:51 AM: Roz: whole season we only used 5 players total
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 12:50 AM: Roz: with 4 players?
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 12:50 AM: Roz: how do we play bo9
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 12:50 AM: Roz: take a free win
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 12:50 AM: Roz: good job guys
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 12:50 AM: Roz: xgking up 1-0 already in seacc
Thu, 15th-Mar-2012 12:50 AM: Roz: woot

not bad for a guy who prides himself on being classy and not sulking

[Roz]

yea because i was talking to a wall right?

[iM MaFia]

Originally Posted by Roz

yea because i was talking to a wall right?

get your head outta a sewer for a minute

[TargA]

Originally Posted by Roz

yea because i was talking to a wall right?

it seems so, the evidence is clear.

Originally Posted by xGKingMafia

get your head outta a sewer for a minute

there are no sewers in his castle.

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TAminimat:

where do his poo's and wee's go?

[nGenLight]

Let me summarise what happened from my perspective before this thread gets locked. I will try to be as least bias as possible.

1~Infi joins SEACL and SEACC on coniditon that admins accomodate them (though not mentioning to what extent)for their trimmed roster.
2~Infi cannot play the games vs xeria gaming, asks for reschedule, benji takes the forfeit, (benji very vocal about strict rulings all along) infi demonstrate hate publicly to Benji.
3-Infi and xeria both makes SEACC finals. No previous BOx rules for finals were set. Admins and fans wanted BO9, to be more exciting. Infi prefers BO7 due to roster/schedule issues. Xeria prefered BO9 because they felt they had a deeper roster. Admins decision note: infi willing to accept BO9 with Revival, benji refuses as per preference to BO9
4-Admins decide BO9, Roz enters chatbox, vocal abt his displeasure with such decision. Makes it known to many (including myself) that Infi can only field 4 players. Xeria prefers BO9 but dont want a free 1-0 lead.
5-Admins change to BO7, No complaints from xeria.
5.5 -xeria vs wayi spider show match, revival instilled, roz lets it known in thread of benjis double-standards
6-Finals night, Jazbas late/drunk,iaguz starts instead, admin gave Infi decision to choose another player, infi voices displeasure of this decision
7-Infi wins with Targa scoring an impressive all kill
8-All sides well mannered and cool
9a-Iceiceice/Targa attempts to troll Revenant (also possibly to spite Benji and get some rises out of people, will not be presumptiously conclusive here), leaking image of private chatlog which contains offensive material to xeria . Iaguz responds with some displeasure.
9b-Detective Mafia suggests through his findings that infijokes(infi 5th player) was plenty available on Finals night, publicly asks clarification, Roz tells mafia to not be presumptious/sore loser, does not clarify situation.
10-xgKingLight reads leaked private chat, very vocal in forum about offensiveness of such material
11-Rev ensures its just trolling, Light decides to relax and move on, as do rest of xgking. everything seems to have come to an end...
12-Roz logs on, quote "we really dont care that much about what you think, all i can say is stop crying.
You got rolled, suck it."
12.5-Edge's epic picture!
13-People fired up again, Chadmann emplores all to think abt ESPORTS and stop fighting!(i agree)

& THAT IS ALL OF INFI VS XG DRAMA SO FAR! STAY TUNED FOR MORE!

*If i am wrong in these facts, please let me know*

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	Flamga:	Light being boss <3
	TAScarecrow:	cheers for the summary
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	Reere:	epic TL;DR~

[rizE]

Roz sounds like those little annoying kids that you wanted to neck at school

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simon:

an infraction for calling a spade a spade?

[neon]

Originally Posted by EdgE

I'd just like to point out I read the thread backwards and said aye aye cappn, before reading Mafia say it earlier.

ugh.

[SmirkToT]

I am happy nirvAnA is not online this moment

[syfChadMann]

Originally Posted by PhoenixToT

I am happy nirvAnA is not online this moment

nirvAnA is always online... what are you talking about?.. :P

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SmirkToT:

PhoenixToT, Baldie, Blitz, cruxSpoon, Cute, DarkRocket, dippa, Dox, EdgE, FenderStrat, frequency, Mattigans, neon, Patt, Reere, Scarecrow, SGquaZa, Skepticism, Spo0k, StitchSPR, TAChadMann, TargA, TAriiChard, Venom, veteris, wTFlamga, xGKingLight, yo

[Nemo]

Originally Posted by xGKingLight

9b-Detective Mafia suggests through his findings that infijokes(infi 5th player) was plenty available on Finals night, publicly asks clarification, Roz tells mafia to not be presumptious/sore loser, does not clarify situation.

I have no much comment on the drama as I don't have all the keys to understand all what happened between both teams since that initial "forfeit taken".

But since the first post of Mafia this point intrigues me. If this is true, it seems to me that this would be serious enough to have an answer. Why would Infi has 5 players available and only shows the best 4 of them ?

Roz, instead of being mean to Xeria, could you gives us an explanation ?