[iVnStinger]

Congratz to QEDDenile for winning, Rogue(misspelt just now, sorry) for 2nd place and of course, ChadMan for 3rd.

Thank you DayNine(bm dwarf kid) and Satu(Pizza eating troll) for casting without actually aiming to entertain people (you guys can really be funny with what you say at times!)
I love you guys! Cast again next time please


I'll see if we can get a full writeup on this later. Thanks again for making it a success.

Brackets: http://challonge.com/invisionbsg

Quick Comments

	VoxMSI.Rogue:	why does everyone misspell Rogue :p tyty <3
	iM yang:	grats rouge
	Maynarde:	Thanks for putting on the tourney, don't stress about the reaction to one dick caster

[Antel0pe]

Congratulations Denile, Rouge and ChadMann

[Criven]

Glad to hear this went off well!

Hope to see it in a time slot so us backward WA'ers can have a crack at it too !

Keep up the good work champs!

[VoxMSI.Rogue]

Uh so watching the vod....

Casters so BM QQ.

Quick Comments

	Frogmite:	next time i cast it <3
	iVnStinger:	Sure you can!

[iM yang]

rogue's upset on the phone, you guys did a number with the casting.. wow

[Frogmite]

Originally Posted by TARogue

Uh so watching the vod....

Casters so BM QQ.

Who did that? We're going to smash their bikes with Yang

[Asrathiel]

Originally Posted by Frogmite

Who did that? We're going to smash their bikes with Yang

Yeah, that. Where are the vods?

[VoxMSI.Rogue]

Im not actually upset yang was trolling, but quite seriously if you are just going to bag out the players and talk about your own stuff during their games, not introduce them etc. Then why offer to cast at all? Seems pretty bad manner honestly.

You can't expect BSG players to play at the same level as masters and GM players, I know I am shit at droning and clearly not the best player, hence, why I am in silver...

I enjoyed this a lot and thank stinger for putting this on, but seriously...

Quick Comments

	Antel0pe:	Don't diss lower league players :/. TARouge FTW
	iM yang:
	x5_dot:
	Volition:	dont let the bastards get you down, keep on droning!

[syfChadMann]

Originally Posted by TARogue

Im not actually upset yang was trolling, but quite seriously if you are just going to bag out the players and talk about your own stuff during their games, not introduce them etc. Then why offer to cast at all? Seems pretty bad manner honestly.

You can't expect BSG players to play at the same level as masters and GM players, I know I am shit at droning and clearly not the best player, hence, why I am in silver...

I enjoyed this a lot and thank stinger for putting this on, but seriously...

I totally agree.. Satu was okay.. the other guy was totally BM and I will not allow him to cast any match I am involved in. -_-

It is a pity this event was marred by such bad and BM casting.. Well done to team IVN.. thanks to stinger for putting this on!.. eSports is winning with fun events for the fans to play in, the casting was horrid tho.

Quick Comments

iVnStinger:

Thanks man... but really he was kidding

[JoFritzMD]

are you guys saying day9 is BM?!?!

screenshotting and posting on TL!

[Dox]

Who was the other commentator? Bad form!

[DeNile]

I offer my services if im free next friday to cast for you stinger. You can find evidence of my casting at www.youtube.com/qedstarcraft2 and at www.twitch.tv/synchrosc

ps you are on one of the youtube vods

Quick Comments

iVnStinger:

Not if you were the guy who casted my awful failed all in :)

[iVnStinger]

Dear people of sc2sea,

I'm very sorry you were all offended about what may have been said in the stream, but please note that these are BSG games and they tend to be very
boring if they go on for long. I was once in BSG and I had the same things said to me. They are with good intetentions that we can improve in certain ways
and they were not meant to offend anyone. There is no need to get upset over this or to hate on the casters. People have been misunderstood when they were
actually trying to make jokes. Take for example when Maynarde said something about a ToT guy rage-lagging. It wasn't meant to offend anyone.

I hope this thread doesn't turn into a rage-fest. Look at the bright side! Everyone had a good time and despite it being my first tourney, I'd like to think
it was a success. Thank you for those who turned up and participated, we will probably be having more events in the future. For now AsylumofSouls is running
weekly BSGs so please check those out.

Again, I'm very sorry.


EDIT: Though if anyone would like to give some constructive please go ahead. But I would appreciate it if you don't be rude to the
casters as they took time off to help me with this event and I am grateful for it.

For example something that would be good to say:

Hey guys. I am sorry to say I found your casting a bit rude. In the future maybe you could be a bit nicer as they are just BSG players
and they aren't at high level play. They also want to be encouraged and not discouraged.

Example of rage comments:

You guys suck at casting. Rude and BM idiots.

Quick Comments

DeNile:

fair call and i would like to think i constructively ca=asted your fail all in

[x5_dot]

Originally Posted by TARogue

Im not actually upset yang was trolling, but quite seriously if you are just going to bag out the players and talk about your own stuff during their games, not introduce them etc. Then why offer to cast at all? Seems pretty bad manner honestly.

Yes, not everyone has been constructive, but one person whose game was casted did specify why they thought the commentary was not so great. It's never nice to hear yourself being bagged out without even being able to say anything back.

[Synizta]

if DayNine is really as BM as he was when casting as it feels, i do believe he was fairly BM when i co-casted a BSG Open way-back-when where it was a simular situation (back when Satu was holding them), it's disappointing to hear that it hasn't changed.

But on that, Satu always pokes a bit of fun at BSG players when casting, but he's done so much for BSG community on sc2sea, where i think he has the RIGHT to poke a bit of fun.

But on that, it's disappointing that the casting sounds quite as unprofessional as it's coming across as.

Congratz to gratz to Denile, Rogue and Chad respectively.

Could someone also post vod links? I wouldn't mind seeing some games and also how BM the casting was.

Good job on BSG tourtament too, Stinger.

Quick Comments

iVnStinger:

I agree with you about Satu... and thanks <3

[iVnStinger]

@DeNile
My ass you did... you were like "zomg stingers micro fails..." "12 mins and only now drones???" "gold guy owned this diamond"
I'll be sending you more replays bro, just you wait

@Dot
]No no I don't mean Rogue was being rude. She had points to back her up so it's ok. I'm just saying I don't want this to go into that. Yes I agree it's an awful feeling but if we are to say bad things back, does that not make us any worse? (not Rogue dw, sorry for being irrelevent, but just want to explain what I meant in my post about what COULD happen)

[x5_dot]

@Stinger
That's the thing about things like these. Someone is rude first, and it is normally the 'victim' who cannot strike back or complain unless there are many ppl supporting them.

Meh it's BSG for christ's sake. Play nice. Everyone.

[DeNile]

lol ZOMG i so what to say that in a cast now so send me a replay and i will cast yours full of ZOMG
lolololololololo

[VoxMSI.Rogue]

A little good fun is fine here and there, but you have to remember some people will then become hesitant to participate if they feel that they are just going to be made fun of for not being as good as others.

It took me a year to build the confidence to be a part of any tournaments because I was so scared people would just say mean shit without actually being constructive at all.

It's awesome that you hosted a tournament and that people gave up their time to cast and it may seem all in good fun to poke at peoples play, you do have to remember that they are BSG players who are still learning and being overtly rude or bad manner will only serve to put them off participating in the future.

Quick Comments

	iVnStinger:	I definitely agree
	Maynarde:
	breadfan:
	Asrathiel:	Yup yup. No way I'd come back if I had people making fun of me...
	mGGNemesis:

[syfChadMann]

Yeah.. The casters need to:
a) Introduce the players.
b) talk about the current game at hand, not other games.
c) compliment and find positives in games. No one wants to watch you rip on silver and bronze players.
d) if your going to talk about negatives in the game, talk about the constructively - so when the players go back and watch the VOD they can learn from their mistakes.
e) During the down time in the match, instead of trashing the players - talk about the map, interesting facts that people can exploit on the map, or strategies that are good on that map.. Also speculate what strategies they might be taking and tech routes in the game.

Good luck in the future, the tournament was great... as I said, it was a pity that the event was spoiled by the caster.

EDIT: I think the thing to take away from this is; next time.. get talented casters to cast your events.. no BM fools. No offence to Satu - he was fine.