[Apth]

Originally Posted by WillChen

http://www.sc2sea.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=698
http://www.sc2sea.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=699
http://www.sc2sea.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=700
I have to go to math tutor now, if needed I can upload more later when I get home

Game vs Scope
Hotkeys: Hatches on 1, Queens on 5, sporadically used unit hotkeys
APM: 107 average end of game

Game on Antiga
Hotkeys: Hatches on 1, Queens on 5, sporadically used unit hotkeys
APM: 106 average end of game

Game on Shakuras
Game length 5min, too short to draw conclusions. However;
Hotkeys: Hatches on 1
APM: 84 end average end of game

Game on Entombed Valley
Hatches on 1, Queens on 5, sporadically used unit hotkeys
APM: 101 average end of game

What I mean by sporadic: most of the time, the vast majority of his units are not hotkeyed. There are also no 'set' hotkeys, ie Lings on 2, Mutas on 3.

Conclusion
I'm reasonably convinced the person playing in the game vs Scope is the same person playing the 3 games that have been uploaded.

[WillChen]

with all due respect Apth,
I taught my friend how to play zerg and he finds it convenient to use the same hotkey setup as me, also in regards to APM i believe that around 100ish APM is average for high diamond/low masters level players, certainly nearly everyone I know plays at around 90-110 APM

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AxSGRiM:

im masters with 60 apm, and im close to gm :)

[FaDeBadger]

With all due respect WillChen, you can see how your situation seems very "convenient" after being caught hacking.

We can only go off the evidence we have, and it's not looking good for you.

[WillChen]

yes, I do concede it doesn't look very good at the moment and everything looks very coincidental, but I insist that this is purely coincidental and not a fabricated story, that being said I would like to ask what you guys are looking for and how I can prove my innocence

[Apth]

Originally Posted by WillChen

with all due respect Apth,
I taught my friend how to play zerg and he finds it convenient to use the same hotkey setup as me, also in regards to APM i believe that around 100ish APM is average for high diamond/low masters level players, certainly nearly everyone I know plays at around 90-110 APM

You not only have the same hotkey setup, but the same tendency not to hotkey your units? I find it hard to believe a Diamond/Masters player doesn't hotkey their units in the first place.

That said, I see where you're coming from.

Post the two latest replays you have before the original post made by Scope - latest, mind, don't be selective - so we have five in total to review.Actually just do what lzq says in the post below. His idea is better.

[wTlzq]

Maybe you could get that friend to come forward, since he obviously plays sc2 as well, with his own account and replays, so that people in this thread can compare the skill level and "hotkeys" with the one you provided.
-If you say he dont have his own account and only play sparingly on yours then it really looks suspicious.

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	Apth:	Good thoughts dude.
	iVnStinger:	Good idea!

[WillChen]

http://www.sc2sea.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=701
http://www.sc2sea.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=702
these two combined with the three before make up my five games before I stopped playing

[WillChen]

@lzq
when I can get in touch with him I will ask him to send me some replays of him playing, just to be sure though; he plays on the NA server instead of SEA so does that present any sort of a problem or is that fine?

[Apth]

Originally Posted by WillChen

@lzq
when I can get in touch with him I will ask him to send me some replays of him playing, just to be sure though; he plays on the NA server instead of SEA so does that present any sort of a problem or is that fine?

No problems there. Two or three of his latest replays.

[Scope_IV]

Ok say you said that you were at your friends house and played 1 or 2 games, you actually played 5 games across the space of time of 3-4 hours excluding the hacker friend game. On the side of note of his. I would like to obs a game of his friend playing WITH fiction in the game. Just to stop from playing on his NA account and saying it is is friend. If his friend cannot produce the same style play as we have seen over numerous replays...well then...

[Peleus]

Originally Posted by Apth

No problems there. Two or three of his latest replays.

If he does get his 'friend' from the US to send replays, he'll also need to submit some of his own replays from the NA server also.

This ensures he has a separate ID from his 'friend' in the US, rather than simply a different name he is passing off as a friend.

[Apth]

Originally Posted by PeleusSPR

If he does get his 'friend' from the US to send replays, he'll also need to submit some of his own replays from the NA server also.

This ensures he has a separate ID from his 'friend' in the US, rather than simply a different name he is passing off as a friend.

You are of course, correct, and proof that I need more goddamn caffeine.

[wTlzq]

Wait how did u get hold of the replays if u played it at your friend's house?

edit: ignore if im not making sense, i may have misinterpreted something

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TABag:

+1 for explanation.. AFAIK, the replays aren't based on a cloud system..

[Scope_IV]

^ that makes complete sense

[TAEdarus]

Originally Posted by lzq

Wait how did u get hold of the replays if u played it at your friend's house?

Apparently he cannot contact his friend but he can get the replays...

[ThatGuyDoMo]

Ok guys, I am the iVn manager (yeahh post count!!!)

I am working to resolve this issue and figure out what has happened with our player FictioN/WillChen.

Hopefully we can figure out exactly what happened and bring down a suitable punishment if rules were infringed with our player being found suitably guilty for cheating.

I am sorry for those who claim to have been victims of a maphack like attack from our player, I apologize for this inconvenience and will do what I can to make things right.

Thankyou for your time, I will also assist in investigating this issue as well.

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	iVnStinger:	Thank you
	nirvAnA:

[Sola]

Originally Posted by iVnThatGuyDoMo

I will show a basic level of respect for all members of the community

If I have different opinions, I will share them maturely instead of as a raging emo

I will not insult members who have made mistakes, but will provide constructive feedback instead.

I will not troll the forums for attention as I'm no longer 12 years old.



I fully accept the rules of sc2sea and hope to abide by them to the best of my ability. Do not hesitate to ban any trolling or pigheadedness on my part.

I hope I can contribute to the forums.

I'm confused to who this is? Are you his friend? You haven't stated anything.

Dw, you edited and changed your post completely.

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	iVnStinger:	Maybe you should take time to re-read his post instead of posting things like this..
	TABag:	Well played sir.
	Fourby:

[Sola]

I had posted and read your previous post which you had changed. So I hadn't seen your new post.
If your new to the community maybe tone down the negativity and show the respect to ppl like you said in your original post.

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iVnStinger:

Sorry didn'

[Sola]

No probs iVnStinger, all good.

[WillChen]

Originally Posted by TAEdarus

Apparently he cannot contact his friend but he can get the replays...

It was in the morning when I asked him to send me the first few replays... it's been quite some time since then, I don't mean to sound rude but people have commitments in real life and he is currently busy, as I have been the past few hours